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Tami
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I am looking for people with my blood type to share ideas with, but would also like to learn how others cope with cooking for a house with all 4 blood types. It appears I will need to be a cater cook. I just learned my youngest child is B, and was very surprised. He has so many A like symptoms I thought he was going to be A liks his older sister. She never gets sick and has no allergies or mucous, and he has mucous galore, gets sick often and seems to have allergies. I would have guessed he was the A and she was the B instead of the other way around.

Any advise that would benefit a family with AB+, A+, B+ and O- would be a great start.

A little more about me, I have self studied eating habbits for years, and have had the blood type diet book (s) since 2010.


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Welcome!

I'm cooking for Os and Bs, plus my personalized food list varies somewhat from the basic O diet my daughter follows, so I can somewhat relate. I don't have any As or ABs in the house, though, which does make it easier.

My advice is to plan shared meals around mutually compliant foods. Try to use the "beneficial for one, avoid for another" foods for meals you don't eat together. For most families, this means packing individual lunches for work and school and family dinners, while everybody grabs individual breakfasts while hurrying in the mornings. But if your family eats together at lunch and goes there own separate ways at dinnertime, then adapt accordingly. I imagine you'll be eating a lot of turkey and fish.

The above paragraph was assuming that everybody in the family is on board with BTD- which may not be the case. It's most important to focus on your own health and nutrition, so that you have the energy to help them. Other adults in the household get to choose for themselves how compliant they want to be- you can support, you can do the menu planning, food shopping, and food prep to help them, but you can't force anything. You certainly can't control what they eat away from home! Even with kids, unless you're feeding a toddler, you need to give the child some control over what they eat. Children are generally able to handle some "avoids" in their diets, as they have NOT been damaged by decades of eating the wrong things. For the sake of family peace, it's not always worth it to tell a child "no, you can't eat that- it's for another blood type in the family".


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Im going to check out that blog next, thank you.

Ruth, I like how you put that last part. One adult and one almost adult in the house do not believe like I believe in the blood type diet, and my 2 year old has been ill a lot, so I am able to explain better why I want him to try to avoid (he's B type) peanuts, chicken and hot dogs, however I have to say, and eat more meat at the end of any sentence, so the O type in the house doesnt get too upset. He is very happy B should have venison. I wont cook it. Also Goat, Lamb, Mutton, Rabbit, and Venison are highly beneficial for my 2 year old, but no way am I cooking any of that. I just dont eat/cook that sort of thing, and wish Turkey was on his beneficial list.

What kind of mom would I be not to give peanut butter and hot dogs to a child under 5. Most children love those things. Because he has been ill, and even dairy is supposed to be a good choice, he has to avoid cows milk because of what it does to him. I believe its a sensitivity, rather than allergy, but only time will tell as allergies build in his blood. I can give him american cheese (he likes it) and yogurt. He drinks almond chocolate milk.

I was trying to think of a way to make Chili for the family. I have one of those crock pots with 3 portions. Im currently working on being vegetarian, though I will eat fish and may allow turkey eventually up to 2 x a week, and definately on thanksgiving. Im working on weight loss, and the book says meat can turn to fat because of the A in my AB. So for the Chili, perhaps the main ingredients can be split and the meat go as follows
A - chicken or turkey, cant have navy beans, can have pinto, no tomato
B - turkey, navy beans, cant have pinto, can have navy beans, no tomato
AB - tofu/turkey, pinto or navy beans okay, tomato

So Im left with making myself regular chili, or giving the kids tomato's and one of them getting beans they shouldnt have. I know my A type doesnt care about being strict on the diet, she's almost an adult and where I live legally she already is. I could make white chili, but beans still remain an issue unless I just make each portion for each person, which I may just do.

And this is just one meal - oy


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The B toddler does need some meat in his diet. No, he does not need hot dogs! But if you do give him the occasional hot dog, it should be beef or turkey, not chicken or pork. But he truly doesn't need processed meat, and you can give him almond butter if you really want to give him something "peanut-butter like."

If the O and A in the family don't really care about BTD, then focus on yourself and your toddler. B and AB have a lot of mutually compliant foods, so emphasize those foods. I agree with your O husband (I assume the O on the family is your husband? Please correct me if I'm wrong) that the B baby does need meat in his diet. I doubt he'll be able to achieve perfect health without having red meat a few times a week. If you don't want to cook it, could another family member cook it? Could you purchase it already prepared?

I would not bother with navy beans- they taste just like great northern beans, and the northern beans are neutral for everybody. Pinto beans, black beans, and kidney beans at least have some flavor! Ditto on chicken- the flavor is similar enough to turkey, so why bother with a food that only half of you should be eating? Especially since it's an "avoid" for the 2 family members you have control over.

Is the 2yo still nursing? If so, I wouldn't worry about his dairy intake at all. If not, stick to "beneficial" dairy products for him, such as goat milk and yogurt (cow's milk is only neutral if he's a non-secretor, and anyway goat milk is less likely to cause congestion than cow's milk. Raw milk would also be a good choice, if that's available.)

He may benefit from cod liver oil to help boost his immune system. I wouldn't  give him American cheese; it's highly processed and not very nutritious. Mozzarella cheese, goat cheese, or cottage cheese are better choices. Of course, read labels carefully to avoid unwanted additives. It's also important to limit his intake of added sugars if he's been sick. What's in that almond chocolate milk you give him? He may be better off drinking water rather than some kind of "milk" if you can't find one that's fully compliant for him.


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eta... I found my own answer about the onions: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

Thanks for all the info. Your a wealth of knowlege.

Do you know about B and onions. My book doesnt have that on any of the 3 lists. I think I shall make a list of ingredients and 4 columns for the types, and focus on the AB and B, but try to help the A. She is having some stomach issues, so I want to try (super picky teenager). Lucky for me I do purchase almost all of the food and I havent bought pork hot dogs or any kind of pork in 20 years, unless you count eating out the occational slice of bacon or hot dog. You guessed the O in my family right.

The B baby I can use my nuwave to cook him steak or beef burgers, or even give him lunch meat. So wait, hamburgers and lunch meat are processed. Are they good or bad in the D'Adamo world of thought? The thing is, beef is the baby's neutral, and the beneficial ones I have never cooked and dont want to. Im talking about Goat, Lamb, Mutton, Rabbit, Venison. I think venison may be the only red meat in that list. Will he thrive if I cook him beef and turkey and none of his highly beneficials? He loves turkey burgers, lunch meat, turkey hot dogs, beef hot dogs, peanut butter, vegetables (puree), fruit, stir fry, ect...

Im supposed to avoid beef, and chicken, but something I read makes me think chicken is worse than beef for AB's, I dont know. I may occatinally eat steak, maybe once or twice a year. I can totally cook it and not want to eat it. Im ok with cooking chicken and not wanting it, too.

Speaking of chicken, you know the chicken in the can, well I used to get turkey like that at Sam's club. Is that safe, and do you know where it is sold? Sams doesnt carry it anymore. Down the road I may make turkey more for myself, and I believe all 4 of us will be okay on Turkey based meals.

The baby is NOT nursing for about a year now. I dont know much about the whole non-sectretor part of all of this.

The almond choc milk has too much sugar. It has his calcium in 2 8 oz glasses a day. I have recently started to go 50/50 choc/vanilla, but stopped that this past week because of a bad skin infection he got. He wasnt eating well or drinking milk well, so I took a small break in my efforts. I also add strawberry to vanilla, for less sugar. The doctor couldnt test him, but mentioned staff infection and a skin infection. He's on a sulfer antibiotic, as he does have a reaction to amoxicillian. The babysitter doesnt exactly cook as healthy as I do, I had to stop providing milk over there, as she would give him too much (so she said) but the amount I provided was enough for 1 8oz glass a day and she said she was giving him 2. So for the sake of the lack of space in her fridge, I give him the milk in the morning.

Im so disappointed in some people sometimes, for example I have to now add sugar to some foods for my baby because my sitter wouldnt cook/serve without it and my baby likes her food better than mine. Who gives a 1 year old brown sugar and butter in his oatmeal when the parent provides the kind she wants her kid to eat. I didnt realize there was little/no nutritional benefit in american cheese. I will try to find mozzarella slices, see if I can get away with that, if he will eat it. Perhaps I need to find low fat mozzarella. Any suggestions of something to add to eggs besides american, that he will like more than how the sitter cooks them?

His recurring illness' have been mostly fevers every 2-4 weeks all last winter. He kept getting some kind of sinus or ENT type infection. Once he was old enough for benedryl and nasal spray (he's rather big for his age so he started at 1 & 1/2). He's now 2 and weigh's 36lbs while hes 35 inches. He always had a clear runny nose, that would not quit. It was worse if I offered him milk.

He also gets frequent rashes with illness, but not of the sensitive skin from contact with things type. He has had huge bumps from misquito bites, to the point that he has bad swelling if I dont give benedryl. I prefer not to give medicines if they are NOT needed.


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ah- I didn't realize he was in daycare during the day. Having another adult feeding him does make things harder, especially since she clearly does not share your nutritional philosophy, AND he's seeing other kids eat  that kind of food. Lots of kids don't have to deal with "peer pressure about food" until kindergarten. You may have to make some compromises.

I have no problem with adding butter to oatmeal- fat is good for developing brains and is harmless for a B. Fattier foods are also more filling and cause the whole meal to be digested more slowly, making for more stable blood sugar. I go for the full-fat cheeses for my own family, only buying low-fat if the full fat isn't available or is WAY more expensive. Could she give him honey and butter in his oatmeal instead of honey and brown sugar? Honey is fine for Bs, and is definitely a healthier choice than sugar. I know that my B son gets sick easily if he eats too much sugar, too many days in a row, but does not get that reaction from honey.

Calcium is over-rated, especially since most people ignore magnesium. I get my minerals from food sources that contain everything in natural balance- such as greens and bone broths. I never use calcium-fortified anything, as it can lead to magnesium imbalance. He may do well on goat milk-  but if he won't drink it plain, don't force it.

I think he won't drink the unsweetened milk because his body knows better- the milk or the packaged milk substitute isn't what his body needs, so he only finds it palatable with lots of added sugar. I'd suggest giving him water to drink, and make up  the calories with whole foods. He could benefit from a probiotic and/or lots of fermented foods, especially since he's been on antibiotics. His gut needs to repopulate with the "good germs" so that he can naturally keep the "bad germs" at bay. The skin rashes are likely a sign that his GI system (the skin inside his stomach and intestines) are compromised as well.

It's hard with a child who's developed a taste for processed meats. some of the processed meats aren't too bad- read the labels and see what's in each specific product. And it's doubly hard that you can't just offer him all natural foods and give it a few weeks for his taste buds to reset- because other adults in his life will continue offering the junk. If there's processed meat at daycare, chances are he'll end up eating some, even if it's only offered to the other kids.


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Ruthie has written so many clever things
B´s are lucky they can eat beef/veal/buffalo/turkey -sure it is neutral- but it is far better than no meat at all. I eat those meats 95 % of the time.
For a B child fat diary is very important- so look out for the best butter you can get- full fat natural yoghurt-good full fat cheese- look for the best you can get.

I would say avoid all veggie oils( soy, corn, sunflower etc) except Olive oil for B´s
avoid all corn products -look for hidden sources like high frutose syrup, starch and oil
avoid all chicken

That is the most important for B´s in my opinion when I stopped eating vegetable oils and chicken I stopped having non stop ear infections as well as allegies.



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I find this all very interesting.

I dont know if my relationship with my sitter will remain in tact if I ask her to use honey, not brown sugar, and when I find out later she didnt do it after all. I may just make it and then talk about how much he loves it and go from there. I so wish I could stay at home and focus on this stuff, however then I probably wouldnt be the one buying the food.

Should I avoid tomatoes for the baby? Tomato sauce (spaghetti) cooked has so many benefits. I can get him to eat spagheti squash with sauce. I can do an alfredo sometimes, but it gets old week after week.

What substitues can I give for calcium, from whole foods instead of substitues added to foods?

I try to make sure everyone gets evoo every day, its my favorite fat. I do try to go fat free, but add it back in moderation. I wonder if being logical like this is really the best way, truth and logic arent always the same thing, but my mind tends to go with logic must be true so I have to take a step back to figure out whats really best. I may need to look for the full fat greek yogurts again. He eats the greek stuff like yoplain or Fage, but the store I shop at refuses to put the full fat on the shelf. I may need to special order it again instead of making sure he gets evoo.

Henrietta, I do avoid those other oils. Also I am AB and trying to go without meat, to help weight loss. The A part of my AB gives me low stomach acid. The B baby has been on meats since he turned 1. Mostly he gets turkey burgers, turkey or beef hot dogs, chicken (which Im not stopping). I just got his blood type kit Saturday, I begged the doctors to test him, but they said no because I was an RH+. I should have tested sooner. As for wheat and corn, I plan to remove that from his diet.










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It's up to you how strict you want to be with his diet, and how much you want to shake things up with the sitter. Tomatoes are OK if he's a B non-secretor, but not if he's a B secretor. Therefore, since tomatoes are OK for "some Bs" it may not be a food to focus on right now. Chicken, however, is just about THE most toxic food for a B's system. If you make no other changes, I'd cut chicken out of his diet- or at least minimize it as much as possible. If you don't cook with chicken at home, but he gets some at the sitter, that may be a workable compromise for now.

I'd try talking to the sitter about how he's been sick and the doctor wants him on a special diet to keep him healthy. You do NOT need to specify that it's Dr D'Adamo, and not the local pediatrician, making these dietary recommendations. Alternatively, feed him the best you can at home and let her feed him what all the kids are eating when he's there. It's really up to you.

How long do you intend to keep him with this particular sitter? If you're planning to move him to a school-like daycare center when he turns 3, and his birthday is only a few months away, it may not be worth making any changes in his current location. But if you plan to keep him there for months or years, then you want him eating well while he's there, and you want ALL the adults who care for him to feed him properly.


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You could add a little cream to the low fat yoghurt.
Here in DK it has been very hard to get full fat organic yoghurt -so I sometimes do that.
Greek style youghurt with fresh berries are great

tomatoes
- in general tomatoes are not great for B´s however if he is a non secretor they are neutral.
I personally eat a little tomatoes every August/september ( I grow them for my O that is my choice - I find I have no real reactions to them. I understand it can be very difficult to avoid completely  

Chicken
please please consider to get that out of his diet - it is far more harmful than the odd bacon/hotdog -it is my absolutely nr 1 avoid  

I would never fear fat - fat is necessary especially to a growing B child. Fat is not at all the villain it has been known as.

After I gave up my low fat vegetarian diet and eat a low grain/sugar - high fat B diet - I have lost weight and all my numbers are much better.


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Ruth, I may have to do some planning and just start packing his lunches again, for the sitters. I have many struggles with opinions from the 'O' in the family, who is against daycare centers and somewhat wants to home school, but in the end I think Ryan will end up in school at age 6. He turned 2 this month. We might get him into all day Pre -K at 5 in 3 years.

I probably just need to accept that my sitter will disappoint me, and ask her to try my suggestions and talk to her about what he's eating and how I can make it so he eats healthier. I need to figure out what is best for him. Maybe for this week I can simply ask her not to feed him chicken and provide a substitute for those chicken nugget days. I wish I had the list of foods he ate come home every day.

I only hesitate because I feel like it will harm our friendship, however my feelings dont matter, my son does, so I think I need to put that aside. I almost moved him to another lady, then after interviewing her and talking to her for a couple weeks found out some very bad things, and she was telling me lies. It freaked me out so I didnt change him. My sitter is a good person, she just wants to take the easy plan and I am high maintenance when it comes to my child and my nutrition. Plus I know no one who agrees with all of this stuff before now at least. Im happy for this board.

Henrietta, I have the baby (ryan)'s dad 75% on board with avoiding giving him chicken. I agree with you 100%, and I need to also avoid. I told Ryans dad how toxic it is, and now that we know he's a B if he has to take him to Wendy's/McDonalds (which I disagree with) get a burger, NOT chicken. I hope he will listen to me. I told him no more than once a week fast food, and I got away with that. I also encourage subway.

Ryans dad is the type that thinks he's going to die when and how he's going to die, so why try to improve life in the process. We are very incompatible really, but we stay for some reason unknown to me.

Is there a way to guess if Ryan is a secretor or non-secretor?

Cream? What type? I hear cream and think of that stuff people use in coffee. I dont drink coffee.





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Ruth, do you prefer Ruthie or just Ruth? My aunt used to like just Ruth.


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Real heavy cream  withnothing added- I know you have to watch what you buy in US - but my guess would be a organic cream if you can get it.
something like this
http://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/heavy-whipping-cream/pasteurized-16-oz/
Dont know the brand- I am in Europe

Just do your best and try to get more and more real foods into your/his diet.


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I will look at the store for that, thank you.

I just spoke to the sitter, who actually gave him chicken for lunch. I have a good relationship with her and we both told each other the other one is nuts for caring/not caring about this stuff and in the end next week Im going start packing his lunches. She will do breakfast, and not add sugar to oatmeal. I must have not understood how she makes it, it is the packet with brown sugar, not added sugar. They usually have eggs and cheese, or buscuits and honey, or oatmeal and sometimes cereal, but usually not wheat, usually sugary cereal (yuck). I dont understand why people would feed little kids stuff like that, but I accept people, just get disappointed.

I also talked to Ryans dad, and he will eliminate chicken, wheat and corn.

It really feels like everyone else in real life is against this, even if its only a few people I share this stuff with. Im so thankful for this message.


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I prefer Ruth. I went with "ruthiegirl" as my name on this message board because it's a nickname a friend used to call me in college (only one person called me that) and at the time I wanted to be somewhat anonymous online. I'm now a blogger here (with my real full name) and active on Facebook (again with my real name) and both of those are linked to my account here, so I just take it as a given that anybody I know in real life (sister in law or next door neighbor) may find my posts here, and I post accordingly. Anything too private doesn't get posted, period.

It sounds like you've reached a good compromise with the sitter. Having your child with somebody you trust is very important- even if you disagree on some stuff, it's WAY more important that you trust her on things like discipline. Packing his own food from home is simpler all around- she just feeds him what you've packed and she can offer the "easier" foods to the rest of the kids. I pack my kids' lunches every day too- on VERY rare occasions my son will buy a snack at school- but when he does, it's a special treat, not "the usual routine." It also comes out of his own money (appropriate at age 11, but not at 2.) After a while, he'll get used to eating home-packed meals and not expect to eat what the other kids eat. He may not always LIKE it, but he'll adapt because that will become the norm for him.

In the end, sneaking the occasional chicken nugget (and eating whatever c**p they serve at a birthday party) isn't going to do him much harm. What you want to do is establish healthy habits for *most of the time.*

You also need to internalize the fact that a B needs to eat significantly differently than an AB. A very low-fat diet is appropriate for you, but your son needs much more fat in his diet. If he ever needs to lose weight, he should  limit his carbs, not his fat intake. (But you don't put a toddler on a low-carb diet- I'm talking about what he would do when he's an adolescent or older.) For now it's enough to make sure he has enough veggies and protein, and then carbs to fill in the gaps.


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Thanks Ruth, I like your style.

You too Henrietta.

I love the chunky monkey boy he has become. And Im so glad I found out some of the fats and stuff is not the best for him. Im talking about coconut for my B baby, and I will look for the cream.

Off to go home, more tomorrow.


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You are doing a great job  
It is always hard for a mum with a different BT than her child to really grasp her childs needs

When my daughter was 2-3 years old I was vegetarian 90 % of the time
- and I was so frustrated with her eating all the butter, eggs,cheese and veggies but saying no to wheat bread and yoghurt- She would beg for meat in the stores instead of sweets- One time she kept putting steak in my shopping basket  
so it was no surprise to me that my little cave" child " was a O

I had to compromize all the years she was looked after by other people - She had more wheat and dairy than I would prefer...but it made it even more important that she had the right food at home- and sometimes I would send her a food bag with rye bread, spelt bread/cookies and almond milk.

I use spelt a lot- white spelt taste almost like wheat.
For your B- regular white wheat is not great - but it is better than wholewheat, rye, corn, buckwheat etc.
So If he sometimes get a little white flour it is better than the corn.


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Hi, Tami  

Quoted from Tami

I just spoke to the sitter, who actually gave him chicken for lunch. I have a good relationship with her and we both told each other the other one is nuts for caring/not caring about this stuff and in the end next week Im going start packing his lunches.  I dont understand why people would feed little kids stuff like that, but I accept people, just get disappointed.



By following your requests, the sitter may see some positive changes in your son. The change in her (and your) routine may seem like a burden at first, and your son may resist trying new things, but it will pass. Stay positive. You're on a good track caring for your family this way.


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It really feels like everyone else in real life is against this, even if its only a few people I share this stuff with. Im so thankful for this message.


Don't let uncurious people get you down. A lot of us, if not all of us here, have been through it. Many will see your good results. Some may become your ally.


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I did tell my sitter white bread isnt wheat, and its okay. I think that was a small common ground. She's so against it all. When people in real life push like that, it makes me feel weak for some reason. I hope to find my strength here (:. Ive been on another board for years, and for what it was for it gave me so much strength. Im still on there, but never had found people like me on diet issues. Some are sorta like me, and they love the whole diet, blood type, and infertility connection.

Is there a way to get email notifications for replies to threads?


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Hi, Tami  



By following your requests, the sitter may see some positive changes in your son. The change in her (and your) routine may seem like a burden at first, and your son may resist trying new things, but it will pass. Stay positive. You're on a good track caring for your family this way.




Don't let uncurious people get you down. A lot of us, if not all of us here, have been through it. Many will see your good results. Some may become your ally.




thank you thank you thank you. This sitter/friend I do not think she will come around, but I hope others will. I do keep to myself a lot in real life, but when the time comes and I lose the rest of this extra weight, I know people will ask. I will likely stick to talking online about the diet, and at home. My 17 year old is a great listener, goes with her A attributes.



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This has been a very  interesting thread. Ruthie & Henriette are right on about their advice.

But I don't know why the babysitter is not more helpful in what you want the child to eat.  Before BTD or knowing much about nutrition, I certainly would respect a parent's info about how to care for their child & would obey their rules.
I noticed that many type Bs do poorly on dairy products even tho they are 'allowed' on the diet.

I also come from a 4-type family, but found out about BTD when my kids were grown. I noticed that my AB husband didn't like chicken too often & preferred beef. He also has many days where he eats no meat (therefore is very economical!).  I'm the one who can polish off a pound of meat easily!

My A son ate meat but not as much as the others. As an adult, he eats lots of ready made foods, but will also eat veggie burgers, etc. He will soon marry a vegetarian & respects that. I do worry about her as she eats lots of dairy with no outward effect. She will eat an occasional egg, I think.  As a BTDer, I wish she would eat fish & poultry at least once a week, but I can't control people in their 30s! The good thing is that she eats lots of veggies!!

I'm glad you found this forum. You will love it & get lots of good info!


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Mrs T, I am from Chicagoland. My oldest lives in Carol Stream. How are the temperatures this week?

I stopped trying to make other adults do anything they dont want to do. I hope your daughterinlaw to be comes around. Im with you on respecting other parents wishes. I would make a great babysitter, but instead I have a desk job in tech support for a medical software company. The pay isnt the greatest in my area, but the cost of living is. One example, a 2br 1ba appartment here is $450 a month. My son pays twice that in chicagoland. I do think fish can be very important in the diet. This whole no turkey no meat thing I've been doing for 2 weeks is not bothering me at all. Im going to start buying the baby steak for over at the sitters. I bet she wants steak after that. I will likely alternate steak and fish for the little guy.

I need to look into calcium rich foods. I think I remember. Im very strict on not getting too much calcium, and getting just the right amount.


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would give a try to get the whole familymembers *swamied* ... so perhaps easier for you in your cooking choices ...


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I did tell my sitter white bread isnt wheat, and its okay.


Unless the white bread is made from flour that is not ground up wheat or spel,. It is, in fact, wheat.
Flour can be ground from seeds, nuts, beans, and grains.



It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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I think she meant that she's telling the sitter "I don't want my baby eating whole wheat. White bread is fine."


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On the bread subject, I was trying to keep the peace with the sitter, though I may also send breakfast in the future. She will make biscuits with honey or oatmeal or eggs usually. She avoids cereal because of the mess, but buys the sugar stuff so whatever her reason she can keep avoiding that lol.

In reality, for a B baby, should I make him his own bread. I was thinking of making a receipe for pineapple bread, but need to compare the flour's I use as I think he and I need different things. Maybe pineapple bread will taste good to him, and I may also use banana, though I need to avoid banana and he needs it, so it will be hard not to at least try the bread and make sure I cooked it right (:.

Amazone, I need to wait to order the secretor test. Does the Swami software work for all family members? I was under the impression I needed secretor status first. I dont think I can get the baby to spit easily.


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You can get secretor status by getting a Lewis blood test but it's hard to find someone to do it I think.  It would be very hard to get a 2 year old to give you enough spit for the test.  I don't know where you shop but Whole Foods and lots of other stores have rice breads in their freezer section.  I buy the Food for Life brand Bhutanese Red Rice bread or the Black China Rice Bread.  You need to toast them but they hold together better than most gluten free breads and are good for sandwiches.

They'd be a better choice than white bread I would think.

Do you have Eat Right for Your Baby - there might be great suggestions in there.

My granddaughters are A- and O+ and my son is A+ and his wife is A-.  They aren't BTD followers and live on the Gulf Coast but when I visit they respect my food choices.  
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I have a store right next to work with good flours. I also tried their tapioca bread, but got tired of it. Its like $6 for a small loaf, and I think I can make it taste better with fruit.

I'm going to focus on his lunch and dinner meals being B friendly, and work on mine at the same time.

I love to hear when family and friends respects food choices.

Would it be a benefit to do a swami without sectretor status? If I get the software, can I swami more than one person?


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The SWAMI software is only good for one person. You'd need to buy 2 for 2 family members, 3 for 3 family members, etc. It can be used without knowing your secretor status- you can run it both ways and compare the difference between the two food lists, and see just how vital the information is for you personally.

Spelt bread is fine for Bs. It's beneficial if he's a secretor and neutral if he's a non-secretor (in which case the white bread would be an avoid.) Regardless of secretor status, spelt bread is healthier for a B than white bread is. And it's probably simpler for the sitter if she simply feeds your son what you pack and doesn't use any of her own food for him. Spelt bread is easy to bake in a bread machine; it's often easier to find the spelt flour than ready-baked spelt sandwich bread. Plus, the flour has a longer shelf life so you can stock up rather than always having to buy more. It's available online if you can't find it locally. Your son is young enough that he shouldn't complain if the texture of homemade bread is different from what he's used to in commercial varieties.

Also remember that he doesn't *need* any specific food just because it's on his beneficial list. If it's easier for you to bake prune muffins for both of you rather than banana muffins for him and prune muffins for you (or whatever fruits are good for ABs; I'm unfamiliar with the lists) then that's OK. He can eat bananas by themselves or not eat them at all. Any "banana bread" recipe should work just fine with any pureed fruit or root vegetable in its place. Dried fruits can be soaked in water then whirred in a blender or food processor, or you can use jars of baby food in baking.

I'd suggest getting a SWAMI just for yourself right now, and follow the BTD for your son. Let other family members eat whatever they want. They're all old enough to decide for themselves how they want to eat. Seeing you and the baby get healthier by eating this way may inspire some of them to do the same. When you can afford it, get a secretor test for yourself. If you're a nonnie, test your husband- if you're both nonnies, then so are all the kids, and you won't need to test any of them. If either of you is a secretor, then the kids could be anything, so there would be no point in testing somebody who's not willing to commit to eating this way.


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So with Swami,

If I buy one for me, can I run it only twice? Or does it assign a blood type to a person and then after that you can run it as much as you want?

If I buy a second one for Ryan, can I load it on the same computer?

I didnt even think about dried fruit in water and blended as a bread/muffin receipe type thing, thanks. Also wasnt sure if I should focus on his beneficial's. The allergy book has a few things I could add to bread:
Super beneficial: cranberry (may not add), elderberry/dark blue/ purple (not sure what that is), pineapple, plum, prune, watermelon (prob wont use)
Beneficial: banana, grape, papaya (prob wont use).

Ruth, do you think adding the beneficials would help his allergies?

Wont be able to do the mother father thing with the secretor test, as Ryan is the only living child we have together, so it wouldnt apply to my other two. I guess if I am a nonie I could risk it just to see, but would probably just test Ryan when he learns to spit.

Maybe I should just focus on me, and start with the swami when I am able to.


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There are some time-locked fields on SWAMI to keep people from running them for more than one family member. However, they can be un-locked with a simple phone call or email to the company.  Secretor status is not one of the time-locked fields.  Nor is the health history- because it's understood that your health history can change, a new family member can come down with a disease, etc. So you can re-run it every time your health changes to update SWAMI.

I guess the only advantage to checking your husband's secretor status would be that you could find out Ryan's before he's old enough to spit in the tube.


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That would be an advantage if I am a nonie. The way you explained it it reminds me of blood type where O is the recessive, so two O's only produce O offspring, but the A's and B's have an O attached and AB does not but can split since you only give one to your offspring. So the ABs are similar to secretor status.

If I had to guess based on statistic I would say Im a secretor, but I also taste everything. I can almost tell how foods effect my hormones through my saliva, if that makes sense. Feels secretor to me, however I am AB and thats rare, so I could be a nonie.


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you described such a beautiful situations of nonnieness ..and perhaps giving up all kind of breads ... or even better called carb addictions..ideas of needing carbs ...likewise bread etc... viewed to our educational situations..... coz our society committed in carb-depending believe systems... ....coz of the cheapyness..........


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I think so, too. I wish we had better options that were easier/ fewer carbs, but I will work hard to make it work. And thank you for the compliment.



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Hey, Tami, we've got all four blood types in our family as well.  When I started out I was very overwhelmed and I learned to focus on my own healing first.  Once I got myself figured out and stabilized, I started working on my husband, and then the kids last.  We only had a toddler and a baby then and even with that it was overwhelming.  Get used to the diet for yourself, get to feeling good, and then you can think clearly to take care of the others.  

Oh, and don't trust someone else to make special food for your children.  If they don't already do it for their kids, they won't understand how important it really is.  It will be easy for them to forget or give in.  If we leave our kids with anybody, I make sure they're well fed and I pack food for them.  It's just not worth it for somebody else to have to deal with it...or risking mistakes on their part.


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If I buy a second one for Ryan, can I load it on the same computer?


Yes, I run SWAMIs for over a dozen people on my computer.



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It is hard to figure everything out. I have changed settings and had 3 different menu's on my swami, just for me. Im focusing on the baby too, for his allergies and well being.

The sitter just told me not to send fish anymore OY OY OY. We agreed instead that she would cook him eggs tues and thurs for lunch, but I will sent the other stuff. Im sending snacks, like fruit, veggies, homeade granola with black almond and dried cranberries, homeade almond butter, I even made him pretzels with evoo and ranch powder.

I want to get the swami right. I dont know what to do about the finger prints, and Im running to town in a bit for an appointment. Wonder if I can find some ink at target. I need inkless ink, so my fingers arent inked when I come to work.

I dont know if I got all my things answered right. I asked someone else, but he isnt into any of this. Maybe I should measure trunk and legs, and leg parts and make sure I have it right. Im not sure if my chin angle is right. I can get my fingers around my wrist if I push hard enough. I used to be able to get them all the way around when I was younger, yet this one is time sensitive and I put down doesnt touch. I dont know what body shape to put. Im not tall (5'4") and I am working on losing weight, but I have always had small bones. One example, my biggest baby had to come out c-section because my pelvis was so small. He was 8lb 4oz at 37weeks. I didnt think I was any of the 3 options.

My last swami was GT5 Warrior (Blood Group AB Rh Positive Secretor Status Unknown, but Ive also gotten nomad and teacher.


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Any of the "time sensitive" fields can be un-locked with a simple phone call or email to the place where you bought SWAMI. The time-locks are there to keep people from using one SWAMI for multiple family members; they're very helpful with individuals who can't quite figure out the correct settings or who accidentally entered the wrong data.


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Quoted from Tami


I want to get the swami right. I dont know what to do about the finger prints, and Im running to town in a bit for an appointment. Wonder if I can find some ink at target. I need inkless ink, so my fingers arent inked when I come to work.

I dont know if I got all my things answered right. I asked someone else, but he isnt into any of this. Maybe I should measure trunk and legs, and leg parts and make sure I have it right. Im not sure if my chin angle is right. I can get my fingers around my wrist if I push hard enough. I used to be able to get them all the way around when I was younger, yet this one is time sensitive and I put down doesnt touch. I dont know what body shape to put. Im not tall (5'4") and I am working on losing weight, but I have always had small bones. One example, my biggest baby had to come out c-section because my pelvis was so small. He was 8lb 4oz at 37weeks. I didnt think I was any of the 3 options.

My last swami was GT5 Warrior (Blood Group AB Rh Positive Secretor Status Unknown, but Ive also gotten nomad and teacher.


Do you have a scanner/printer? This is an easy way to get those fingerprints without using ink.

Make sure those measurements are correct. Unlike O's, A's and B's, AB's have 4 possible genotypes. This makes the measurements all the more critical in determining which GT is correct. You wouldn't be the first to bounce around 2 or even 3 GT's before settling on the most appropriate one through trial and error.

Watch out for avoid ingredients in things like ranch powder, and please consider options for your family's diets that don't include bread. Baked goods seem to be a real hurdle for those just starting out, but it's perfectly reasonable to simply forego the steep learning curve and focus instead on healthy alternatives in meal planning. As Isa said, grains are a big part of conventional diets more out of habit and thrift than of necessity.




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I've been using the grains on the list(s) to make those types of foods. Are you saying thats bad? If so why, they are on the list?

I have a scanner/printer in the next room. I will try that. I also picked up gold ink, but I dont want to get inked lol.


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the scanner didnt work


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I found it easier to use a magnifying glass & a bright light for myself & kids, but for some of my in-laws who are O's & eat wheat there is not a hope of seeing let alone getting a print where they are pushing down on to paper (becomes just a big blur)
If you have a good phone try taking a pic & "expanding" the view, i checked friend's prints like that

Even though warriors are supposed to have carbs i also have six cups of veggies recommended per day, i would rather the veggies than filling up on spelt or rice even though they are beneficial. i just feel better with more living foods in my life!
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I will try the picture now.

I am having issues with the protein, and wanting to increase my own oats. I know you can get it with brocholi, but unless I put dry ranch mix on it, or make brocholi salad (with mayo and vinegar) it isnt going down. I just dont like too many veggies.

Here lately Im getting too much yogurt. My allergies are actually acting up like when I get too much dairy, but Im still losing 1 lb a week. The most any of the setting says for me was 6 or 7 servings of dairy a week . I could eat yogurt for meals all the time, its easy and fast. So today I ate oatmeal, which has a little whey protein, but mostly oat protein. I cant have more than 5-7 eggs a week either, and although turkey is a diamond, Im not eating meat right now. I may add 1-2 servings a week in the near future, but meanwhile I need protein from the sources I enjoy.


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I had pretty bad blistery like hands over the past winter. I wonder if my prints are just damaged, but I can barely see them and the picture isnt much better. I will try to use the gold ink I found I guess.


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I've been using the grains on the list(s) to make those types of foods. Are you saying thats bad? If so why, they are on the list?



Not bad, just a hurdle for some who've relied on bread as a major player in their diet (sandwiches, desserts, etc.). If you've conquered bread making with compliant ingredients, I'd say you're ahead of the curve. Some people, myself included, simply don't bother with it due to unsatisfactory results of homemade, and the lack of commercial offerings that are completely compliant. For many, too, limiting grains just feels better. Even within Dr. D's recommended allowance.








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I had pretty bad blistery like hands over the past winter. I wonder if my prints are just damaged, but I can barely see them and the picture isnt much better. I will try to use the gold ink I found I guess.

If you can't read them, choose Composite for them for now and allow the diet to do its work for a while...  When they are readable, go in and see how much the diet changes...  Doing something is better than sitting on the fence.


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My daughter did them and were working on which ones. I have white lines but they go verticle (up and down the fingers). Would those be the same as the white lines?

Thanks for all the help everyone. I really need the help through this part.


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I have lots of specific questions I am asking myself. What do you all do with your black dot items? Are they really okay to have?

Wouldn't it be better to get extra super foods than extra best avoided foods? I ask because I should get 3 red meat (I would only eat beef which is a black dot and I'm avoiding all meat that isn't fish).

Should I put turkey back in my diet. I get 3x a week and its a diamond super food? I am trying not to eat meat and lose weight as recommended in the book.


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There's no problem making bread and  baked goods for your family from allowable ingredients. Learning to rely on "fewer breads" is a healthier alternative for those individuals who don't bake on their own, and would end up choosing ready-made products wtih "avoid" ingredients. Also, many people have difficulty with portion control with baked goods, and may do better avoiding them altogether rather than onver-eating them.

The worsening of allergies may be due to toxins being released as you lose weight. It may not be directly related to the quantity of yogurt you've  been eating. Also, if you suspect that "too much yogurt" is, indeed, causing you problems, you may do better eating "too many eggs" for now. I've always focused on "getting the right amount of animal protein from all sources" rather than strictly following the serving sizes for each type.

You definitely shouldn't be eating any "black dot" foods right now. After 3-6 months, you can try each one individually to see how you respond. I've found that I don't do well on any of my black dots- any given "black dot" food I'll eat  maybe once or twice a year, usually at a social gathering or if I'm preparing holiday food for a crowd. Then again, I do the same thing with some avoids (such as apples, sugar, and honey- never wheat, corn or potatoes!) The only "black dot" I can have regularly is cinnamon.

I'm not sure why it's giving you 3 servings a week of a category that contains nothing but avoids and black dots. It sounds like a glitch in the software. I'd transfer those 3 servings a week to another protein source, such as eggs, dairy, fish, or beans.

What are your reasons for avoiding meat? If turkey is a diamond for you, your health probably would benefit from eating it 1-3 times a week.


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The one black dot, was a black dot and wasnt a black dot on a different one I ran. I hope I have the right stuff entered now. Its calamari and I havent had any in a while, but always do great when I eat it.

Ive been losing weight since June, down 17lbs in almost 4 months, right at a 1b a week.

Ruth, its not a glitch, it may be how I explained it Im not sure.

The red meat options are...
Beef, Liver
Calf, Liver
Goat ◊
Lamb
Mutton
Rabbit
Let me say Yuck 5000 times over. So I have Frequency: 3 servings weekly that I need to make up somewhere.

These are some of my serving sizes:
Red meat 3 weekly servings (I dont eat these)
Poultry 3 weekly (Im avoiding meat to lose weight to follow Dr D in his blood type book)
I love Turkey, but usually turkey burgers I buy frozen or turkey bacon.

Fish and Seafood 5 weekly

6 Eggs a week

Dairy 4 per week


Oils 5 per week (1T)

carbs 2 per day

live foods 6 per day ( I dont get enough of this, and need ranch powder or other seasonings to cook and eat)


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I'm not sure you need to follow the "no meat as per ABs in the BTD book" when you're following your individualized SWAMI. Since you entered your height and weight into SWAMI, it knows you need to lose weight and that's already been factored in. You're not just an AB. You're you. Explorers need more meat than Warriors or Teachers.

Have you actually tried your beneficial and diamond red meats, or is the "yuck" just from the thought of them?

If you're really unwilling to try goat or lamb or liver, then I'd suggest eating extra fish or egg servings. Not one extra egg per "serving" of red meat, but an equivalent number of ounces of eggs in place of the red meat- probably 2 or 3 eggs per "serving." I'd suggest adding in 1 or 2 extra servings of eggs and 1 or 2 extra servings of fish- whichever is easier for you. It's even OK if you change it each week.

When eating live foods, bear in mind that greens cook down VERY small. 1 cup of spinach cooks down to about 1/3 cup of cooked greens, but it has all the nutrition of a full cup of greens. So, 1 cup of cooked spinach is really 2-3 "cups" of live foods. At least, that's how I've always counted it.

What exactly is in the "ranch powder" you use? Is it just a blend of spices or are there other ingredients? You could possibly make your own from 100% compliant ingredients. Many cooked veggies taste great with just a little oil and salt.


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I have been using and am almost out of the ranch powder used to make ranch. It has few carbs and salt. Buttermilk, salt, dried garlic, dried onion and the unnamed spices are the main ingredients in the dressing. I see online there is a dry buttermilk and Im going to a store that may have it in a little while. I cant wait, the baby has never pushed his own cart, just mine, and this store has the little ones. I hope theres one available.

All the red meat sounds gross. I have only smelled liver before, smelled gross. I have been asking around about lamb/goat, and I found it at a health food store, but Im very affraid to cook/try it. I wish I knew of a resturaunt I could 'try' it so I know how its supposed to look and taste. Actual beef is a black dot, in a couple months would I be able to allow it 3x a week? I dont know if I would want it that much anyhow, but I could do once a week for red meat needs. I really prefer Turkey when ground meat, but I like steak or turkey.

I do need to see if I can make pretzels from scratch my own way, to add ranch to.




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My daughter did them and were working on which ones. I have white lines but they go verticle (up and down the fingers). Would those be the same as the white lines?

The vertical lines are not the same as the horizontal ones caused by gut issues...

I don't recall a definitive explanation about the vertical lines...


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Oh okay, maybe I should remove that yes box. Thank you Joe.


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I have only smelled liver before, smelled gross. I have been asking around about lamb/goat, and I found it at a health food store, but Im very affraid to cook/try it. I wish I knew of a resturaunt I could 'try' it so I know how its supposed to look and taste. Actual beef is a black dot, in a couple months would I be able to allow it 3x a week? I dont know if I would want it that much anyhow, but I could do once a week for red meat needs. I really prefer Turkey when ground meat, but I like steak or turkey.

I don't care for the way raw liver smells and it definitely doesn't look appetizing, but it is really good for me.  I have learned to cook it so it is tender and spice it with beneficial spices so I get the most benefit possible when I eat it...  Some keys are: just cook it in ghee until it is done - maybe a very light pink in the center, but no more.  It just continues to get tougher the longer it is cooked.  I spice it to taste with sprinkles of mustard powder, garlic, and turmeric.  Sometimes I saute onion or onion and apple to go on the side.

Lamb is very good.  There are many methods and spicing option depending on taste and cut of meat, so look for recipes online and venture forth.

Typically, black dot foods are NOT meant to fulfill the full recommendations for a food group.  They are for inclusion in modest amounts and if you start gaining weight or get sick you may want to remove them again...


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Thanks for the tips. How do you feel after eating the liver and lamb Joe?

I do need to venture forth. Is beef liver good for B's also? My wii man (baby B) is eating steak for lunch today.

Off I go to change the white lines to no on my Swami. I doubt it will change anything.


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Wait it took away liver, from superfood to neutral so still allowed. It gave me back calamari from black dot to neutral.


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Thanks for the tips. How do you feel after eating the liver and lamb Joe?

I feel pretty rough all of the time due to detoxing junk that built up from having an impaired gut and liver for so long.  Eating liver helps my liver clean, so I can remove more of the chemicals from the body.  It isn't about short term feel good, it is about meeting the needs of my body to move a job along.

There are also times when I need more red meat than just the liver.  I can usually feel when it is needed and eat it.  It fills the need at the time.


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I hope you feel better soon.

I generally feel pretty good, though I am certain I have gut issues, I dont think they are effecting me. I do take coq10, and find on days when I dont there is a difference. I have some general muscle aches, possibly from the extra weight and fact that I tote around a 35+ lb toddler and my age.


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