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Amazone I.
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would give a try to get the whole familymembers *swamied* ... so perhaps easier for you in your cooking choices ...


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I did tell my sitter white bread isnt wheat, and its okay.


Unless the white bread is made from flour that is not ground up wheat or spel,. It is, in fact, wheat.
Flour can be ground from seeds, nuts, beans, and grains.



It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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I think she meant that she's telling the sitter "I don't want my baby eating whole wheat. White bread is fine."


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On the bread subject, I was trying to keep the peace with the sitter, though I may also send breakfast in the future. She will make biscuits with honey or oatmeal or eggs usually. She avoids cereal because of the mess, but buys the sugar stuff so whatever her reason she can keep avoiding that lol.

In reality, for a B baby, should I make him his own bread. I was thinking of making a receipe for pineapple bread, but need to compare the flour's I use as I think he and I need different things. Maybe pineapple bread will taste good to him, and I may also use banana, though I need to avoid banana and he needs it, so it will be hard not to at least try the bread and make sure I cooked it right (:.

Amazone, I need to wait to order the secretor test. Does the Swami software work for all family members? I was under the impression I needed secretor status first. I dont think I can get the baby to spit easily.


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You can get secretor status by getting a Lewis blood test but it's hard to find someone to do it I think.  It would be very hard to get a 2 year old to give you enough spit for the test.  I don't know where you shop but Whole Foods and lots of other stores have rice breads in their freezer section.  I buy the Food for Life brand Bhutanese Red Rice bread or the Black China Rice Bread.  You need to toast them but they hold together better than most gluten free breads and are good for sandwiches.

They'd be a better choice than white bread I would think.

Do you have Eat Right for Your Baby - there might be great suggestions in there.

My granddaughters are A- and O+ and my son is A+ and his wife is A-.  They aren't BTD followers and live on the Gulf Coast but when I visit they respect my food choices.  
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I have a store right next to work with good flours. I also tried their tapioca bread, but got tired of it. Its like $6 for a small loaf, and I think I can make it taste better with fruit.

I'm going to focus on his lunch and dinner meals being B friendly, and work on mine at the same time.

I love to hear when family and friends respects food choices.

Would it be a benefit to do a swami without sectretor status? If I get the software, can I swami more than one person?


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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The SWAMI software is only good for one person. You'd need to buy 2 for 2 family members, 3 for 3 family members, etc. It can be used without knowing your secretor status- you can run it both ways and compare the difference between the two food lists, and see just how vital the information is for you personally.

Spelt bread is fine for Bs. It's beneficial if he's a secretor and neutral if he's a non-secretor (in which case the white bread would be an avoid.) Regardless of secretor status, spelt bread is healthier for a B than white bread is. And it's probably simpler for the sitter if she simply feeds your son what you pack and doesn't use any of her own food for him. Spelt bread is easy to bake in a bread machine; it's often easier to find the spelt flour than ready-baked spelt sandwich bread. Plus, the flour has a longer shelf life so you can stock up rather than always having to buy more. It's available online if you can't find it locally. Your son is young enough that he shouldn't complain if the texture of homemade bread is different from what he's used to in commercial varieties.

Also remember that he doesn't *need* any specific food just because it's on his beneficial list. If it's easier for you to bake prune muffins for both of you rather than banana muffins for him and prune muffins for you (or whatever fruits are good for ABs; I'm unfamiliar with the lists) then that's OK. He can eat bananas by themselves or not eat them at all. Any "banana bread" recipe should work just fine with any pureed fruit or root vegetable in its place. Dried fruits can be soaked in water then whirred in a blender or food processor, or you can use jars of baby food in baking.

I'd suggest getting a SWAMI just for yourself right now, and follow the BTD for your son. Let other family members eat whatever they want. They're all old enough to decide for themselves how they want to eat. Seeing you and the baby get healthier by eating this way may inspire some of them to do the same. When you can afford it, get a secretor test for yourself. If you're a nonnie, test your husband- if you're both nonnies, then so are all the kids, and you won't need to test any of them. If either of you is a secretor, then the kids could be anything, so there would be no point in testing somebody who's not willing to commit to eating this way.


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So with Swami,

If I buy one for me, can I run it only twice? Or does it assign a blood type to a person and then after that you can run it as much as you want?

If I buy a second one for Ryan, can I load it on the same computer?

I didnt even think about dried fruit in water and blended as a bread/muffin receipe type thing, thanks. Also wasnt sure if I should focus on his beneficial's. The allergy book has a few things I could add to bread:
Super beneficial: cranberry (may not add), elderberry/dark blue/ purple (not sure what that is), pineapple, plum, prune, watermelon (prob wont use)
Beneficial: banana, grape, papaya (prob wont use).

Ruth, do you think adding the beneficials would help his allergies?

Wont be able to do the mother father thing with the secretor test, as Ryan is the only living child we have together, so it wouldnt apply to my other two. I guess if I am a nonie I could risk it just to see, but would probably just test Ryan when he learns to spit.

Maybe I should just focus on me, and start with the swami when I am able to.


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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There are some time-locked fields on SWAMI to keep people from running them for more than one family member. However, they can be un-locked with a simple phone call or email to the company.  Secretor status is not one of the time-locked fields.  Nor is the health history- because it's understood that your health history can change, a new family member can come down with a disease, etc. So you can re-run it every time your health changes to update SWAMI.

I guess the only advantage to checking your husband's secretor status would be that you could find out Ryan's before he's old enough to spit in the tube.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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That would be an advantage if I am a nonie. The way you explained it it reminds me of blood type where O is the recessive, so two O's only produce O offspring, but the A's and B's have an O attached and AB does not but can split since you only give one to your offspring. So the ABs are similar to secretor status.

If I had to guess based on statistic I would say Im a secretor, but I also taste everything. I can almost tell how foods effect my hormones through my saliva, if that makes sense. Feels secretor to me, however I am AB and thats rare, so I could be a nonie.


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I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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you described such a beautiful situations of nonnieness ..and perhaps giving up all kind of breads ... or even better called carb addictions..ideas of needing carbs ...likewise bread etc... viewed to our educational situations..... coz our society committed in carb-depending believe systems... ....coz of the cheapyness..........


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I think so, too. I wish we had better options that were easier/ fewer carbs, but I will work hard to make it work. And thank you for the compliment.



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I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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Hey, Tami, we've got all four blood types in our family as well.  When I started out I was very overwhelmed and I learned to focus on my own healing first.  Once I got myself figured out and stabilized, I started working on my husband, and then the kids last.  We only had a toddler and a baby then and even with that it was overwhelming.  Get used to the diet for yourself, get to feeling good, and then you can think clearly to take care of the others.  

Oh, and don't trust someone else to make special food for your children.  If they don't already do it for their kids, they won't understand how important it really is.  It will be easy for them to forget or give in.  If we leave our kids with anybody, I make sure they're well fed and I pack food for them.  It's just not worth it for somebody else to have to deal with it...or risking mistakes on their part.


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If I buy a second one for Ryan, can I load it on the same computer?


Yes, I run SWAMIs for over a dozen people on my computer.



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It is hard to figure everything out. I have changed settings and had 3 different menu's on my swami, just for me. Im focusing on the baby too, for his allergies and well being.

The sitter just told me not to send fish anymore OY OY OY. We agreed instead that she would cook him eggs tues and thurs for lunch, but I will sent the other stuff. Im sending snacks, like fruit, veggies, homeade granola with black almond and dried cranberries, homeade almond butter, I even made him pretzels with evoo and ranch powder.

I want to get the swami right. I dont know what to do about the finger prints, and Im running to town in a bit for an appointment. Wonder if I can find some ink at target. I need inkless ink, so my fingers arent inked when I come to work.

I dont know if I got all my things answered right. I asked someone else, but he isnt into any of this. Maybe I should measure trunk and legs, and leg parts and make sure I have it right. Im not sure if my chin angle is right. I can get my fingers around my wrist if I push hard enough. I used to be able to get them all the way around when I was younger, yet this one is time sensitive and I put down doesnt touch. I dont know what body shape to put. Im not tall (5'4") and I am working on losing weight, but I have always had small bones. One example, my biggest baby had to come out c-section because my pelvis was so small. He was 8lb 4oz at 37weeks. I didnt think I was any of the 3 options.

My last swami was GT5 Warrior (Blood Group AB Rh Positive Secretor Status Unknown, but Ive also gotten nomad and teacher.


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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Any of the "time sensitive" fields can be un-locked with a simple phone call or email to the place where you bought SWAMI. The time-locks are there to keep people from using one SWAMI for multiple family members; they're very helpful with individuals who can't quite figure out the correct settings or who accidentally entered the wrong data.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I want to get the swami right. I dont know what to do about the finger prints, and Im running to town in a bit for an appointment. Wonder if I can find some ink at target. I need inkless ink, so my fingers arent inked when I come to work.

I dont know if I got all my things answered right. I asked someone else, but he isnt into any of this. Maybe I should measure trunk and legs, and leg parts and make sure I have it right. Im not sure if my chin angle is right. I can get my fingers around my wrist if I push hard enough. I used to be able to get them all the way around when I was younger, yet this one is time sensitive and I put down doesnt touch. I dont know what body shape to put. Im not tall (5'4") and I am working on losing weight, but I have always had small bones. One example, my biggest baby had to come out c-section because my pelvis was so small. He was 8lb 4oz at 37weeks. I didnt think I was any of the 3 options.

My last swami was GT5 Warrior (Blood Group AB Rh Positive Secretor Status Unknown, but Ive also gotten nomad and teacher.


Do you have a scanner/printer? This is an easy way to get those fingerprints without using ink.

Make sure those measurements are correct. Unlike O's, A's and B's, AB's have 4 possible genotypes. This makes the measurements all the more critical in determining which GT is correct. You wouldn't be the first to bounce around 2 or even 3 GT's before settling on the most appropriate one through trial and error.

Watch out for avoid ingredients in things like ranch powder, and please consider options for your family's diets that don't include bread. Baked goods seem to be a real hurdle for those just starting out, but it's perfectly reasonable to simply forego the steep learning curve and focus instead on healthy alternatives in meal planning. As Isa said, grains are a big part of conventional diets more out of habit and thrift than of necessity.




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who's Isa ....... blubbering around such issues
and themata...


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I've been using the grains on the list(s) to make those types of foods. Are you saying thats bad? If so why, they are on the list?

I have a scanner/printer in the next room. I will try that. I also picked up gold ink, but I dont want to get inked lol.


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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the scanner didnt work


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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I found it easier to use a magnifying glass & a bright light for myself & kids, but for some of my in-laws who are O's & eat wheat there is not a hope of seeing let alone getting a print where they are pushing down on to paper (becomes just a big blur)
If you have a good phone try taking a pic & "expanding" the view, i checked friend's prints like that

Even though warriors are supposed to have carbs i also have six cups of veggies recommended per day, i would rather the veggies than filling up on spelt or rice even though they are beneficial. i just feel better with more living foods in my life!
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I will try the picture now.

I am having issues with the protein, and wanting to increase my own oats. I know you can get it with brocholi, but unless I put dry ranch mix on it, or make brocholi salad (with mayo and vinegar) it isnt going down. I just dont like too many veggies.

Here lately Im getting too much yogurt. My allergies are actually acting up like when I get too much dairy, but Im still losing 1 lb a week. The most any of the setting says for me was 6 or 7 servings of dairy a week . I could eat yogurt for meals all the time, its easy and fast. So today I ate oatmeal, which has a little whey protein, but mostly oat protein. I cant have more than 5-7 eggs a week either, and although turkey is a diamond, Im not eating meat right now. I may add 1-2 servings a week in the near future, but meanwhile I need protein from the sources I enjoy.


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I still have more testing to complete my swami
I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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I had pretty bad blistery like hands over the past winter. I wonder if my prints are just damaged, but I can barely see them and the picture isnt much better. I will try to use the gold ink I found I guess.


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I'm cooking for all 4 types, and my work is cut out in the mom cave. Our blood types are as follows AB+ (me), O-, A+ (x2 adult children), B+(2 year old).
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I've been using the grains on the list(s) to make those types of foods. Are you saying thats bad? If so why, they are on the list?



Not bad, just a hurdle for some who've relied on bread as a major player in their diet (sandwiches, desserts, etc.). If you've conquered bread making with compliant ingredients, I'd say you're ahead of the curve. Some people, myself included, simply don't bother with it due to unsatisfactory results of homemade, and the lack of commercial offerings that are completely compliant. For many, too, limiting grains just feels better. Even within Dr. D's recommended allowance.








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I had pretty bad blistery like hands over the past winter. I wonder if my prints are just damaged, but I can barely see them and the picture isnt much better. I will try to use the gold ink I found I guess.

If you can't read them, choose Composite for them for now and allow the diet to do its work for a while...  When they are readable, go in and see how much the diet changes...  Doing something is better than sitting on the fence.


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