Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Eat Right 4 Your Type  ›  BDT Food values vs electro dermal testing
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 16 Guests

BDT Food values vs electro dermal testing  This thread currently has 756 views. Print Print Thread
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
jackpine
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 6:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada
Hi everyone,
I have received my secretor test results 0 - Nonnie.  Now I have this list of Beneficials and Avoids all neat and tidy.   A few years ago however, I took a computerized electro dermal test with a naturopath and have a print out of the foods that I am intolerant to and foods that I can eat safely.  My problem is that many of the two values don't coincide.  For example, in my 0-nonnie food  list, Cod  is a Beneficial.  In my Electro Dermal test, Cod is an Avoid.  There are many more discrepancies between the two list results and now I am totally confused.  The biggies, though, like gluten and dairy avoids are the same.  Thanks for any input or answers to this.


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"
Logged
Private Message Private message
Lloyd
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 7:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 (Hunter)
Sa Bon Nim
Administrator
Posts: 7,291
Quoted from jackpine
My problem is that many of the two values don't coincide.  


Welcome!

I'm not clear why you might expect them to coincide?

Two different approaches, two different results. Decide what you are going to use as your primary input. Then, after using that for some time, if you want to experiment with incorporating/mixing some of the values that is up to you.

I don't know enough about electro-dermal testing to comment on it's value. I do know the BTD works for a large majority of people, and the refined versions (with secretor status and/or Health Series) are even more effective. Also, one could consider eventually getting a SWAMI.

Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 1 - 12
yaeli
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 7:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,548
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
I was informed that the food ratings of computerized diagnoses are valid for around 14 days only.

I underwent one 5 years ago when I was on BTD, and most of the food ratings I received were compatible with the BTD ratings.

I underwent another one 5 weeks ago, but this latter one gave me only a short list of 4 food allergens, among them wheat.

I follow my SWAMI diet and take into account that there may occur temporary fluctuations in food tolerance.


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 2 - 12
jackpine
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 7:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada

"I was informed that the food ratings of computerized diagnoses are valid for around 14 days only"

Very interesting, I didn't know this.  Makes sense though.   I think I will (when I can afford it) do a SWAMI.  Thanks.


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 3 - 12
Vicktoria
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 8:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 24
Gender: Female
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 24
Not just 14 day, but after 2 months the results will be different if you don't eat the foods that you should avoid.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 4 - 12
jackpine
Saturday, September 21, 2013, 9:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada
[ after 2 months the results will be different if you don't eat the foods that you should avoid.quote][/quote]

Hi Vicktoria,
Does this mean that if you don't eat the avoid foods for two month, when you test again those foods will read neutral?  Does the change just affect the original avoid foods?


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 5 - 12
Vicktoria
Sunday, September 22, 2013, 10:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 24
Gender: Female
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 24
Yes, that's what I mean, jackpine. Here in Bulgaria we call this Vega test and it have cost 45 euros, I think it is cheaper now. Vega test is bioenergy test carried out by electropuncture. The procedure lasts one hour during which assesses the food 200. But so many people haven't seen any results by avoiding foods that that can gain weight according to the Vega test and eat what it says. People have been on this diet 6 months and don't see any health or loose weight results, because you cannot reveal the biochemistry processes in body by tome electrical signal, it is just bulsh*ts. One woman said the Vega test says if she eats cucumbers and chicken, she will gain weight, and if she eats pork meat, it will make her thin...
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 6 - 12
jackpine
Monday, September 23, 2013, 5:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada
A lot of Naturopaths here do this test and I found that it's very accurate on the big things like dairy and wheat.  Also, how many people are intolerant to vanilla?  On the ABD data base, there is only one type where vanilla is listed as an avoid - 0 non-secretor.   On the electro dermal test I had, vanilla is an avoid.  In every other instance in the ABD lists, vanilla is a neutral.  Not a coincidence, I think. This tells me that there is validity in perhaps both methods.  


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"

Revision History (1 edits)
jackpine  -  Monday, September 23, 2013, 7:30pm
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 7 - 12
ruthiegirl
Monday, September 23, 2013, 8:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI O+ Gatherer, Healing from Fibromyalgia
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 12,290
Gender: Female
Location: New York
Age: 42
I'm really curious how the results of your testing will compare to a SWAMI, if you're ever able to get one.

Until that time, you need to pick one diet to follow and just stick with it.

You can follow the electro dermal test results, or the O nonnie food lists, or you can try to combine them somehow, perhaps by avoiding any food that either one lists as an "avoid" for you. Be careful, though, if you go with that approach. Make sure you eat enough food, and a wide enough variety for both nutrition and to keep you from feeling deprived.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 8 - 12
Goldie
Friday, September 27, 2013, 12:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

All Gatherer -70 Scorp/Sag on BTD/GENO 17 year
Sam Dan
Posts: 5,914
Gender: Female
Location: East Coast
I would take the time to test on you exactly what you feel when eating the one list or the other..

I think a good comparison would not hurt, but once found out what each item does, then make notes and never forget!.. and report back..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 9 - 12
jackpine
Saturday, September 28, 2013, 3:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada
Just an update on this subject - I finally got my SWAMI done (and genotype info to feed into it as well.)  The food list on my SWAMI matches my Electro Dermal test in many ways but the differences are still the same as I describe in my earlier post.  The Dermal Test lists foods in number values and anything from 55 to 58, I can eat 2x a week.  Any food from 59 to 62, 1x per week and any food value over 63, is an absolute avoid.  (vanilla is a 68 and is also an avoid on my SWAMI).  On the dermal test, because of the numbered values, the foods with the smallest numbers would be the beneficials and neutrals on the SWAMI.  So mostly, it's a pretty good match except for a few foods which are opposite values on the two tests.  But, as was mentioned in an earlier post, these foods may fluctuate according to how your body reacts to them at the time.  I am happy that I have my SWAMI though.  


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 10 - 12
Amazone I.
Sunday, September 29, 2013, 10:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh+ GT 4...E/..INTJ ....prop.=non-taster..
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 16,330
Gender: Female
Location: CH-Benglen Kanton Z�rich
Age: 56
bravo I'm one of those therapists working with such a machina  and I must say a lot is really very compatible with Swami and lr4yt   we change all days long... you're somebody different up from the morning to the evening..so far... better get tested and if you remark any problems while eating cod...so just let it away ...it is that simple...


MIfHI K-174
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 11 - 12
jackpine
Monday, September 30, 2013, 3:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter Super Taster
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 18
Gender: Female
Location: Ontario, Canada
Yes, Amazone I, I will watch closely those foods that are mismatched and eat them accordingly.  thanks.


"Don't push the river, it runs by itself"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 12 - 12
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Eat Right 4 Your Type  ›  BDT Food values vs electro dermal testing

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread