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Below are 10 American foods that are banned elsewhere.

#1:  Farm-Raised Salmon

Farm-raised fish is usually fed an unnatural diet of genetically engineered (GE) grains, antibiotics and chemicals unsafe for humans. To mask the resulting grayish flesh, they’re given toxic and potentially eyesight-damaging synthetic astaxanthin.

To determine wild from farm-raised salmon (sold in most restaurants), wild sockeye gets its red color from natural astaxanthin and carotenoids. The white “fat strips” are thin, meaning it’s lean. Pale pink fish and wide fat marks are a sign of farmed salmon.

Avoid “Atlantic Salmon.” Look for “Alaskan” or “sockeye,” which is illegal to farm and has very high astaxanthin concentrations.

Where it’s banned: Australia and New Zealand

#2:  Genetically Engineered Papaya

Most Hawaiian papaya is genetically engineered to be ringspot virus-resistant. But research shows animals fed GE foods like corn and soy suffer intestinal damage, multiple-organ damage, massive tumors, birth defects, premature death and/or nearly complete sterility by the third generation. Dangers to humans are unknown.

Where it’s banned: The European Union

#3:  Ractopamine-Tainted Meat

About 45 percent of US pigs, 30 percent of cattle and an unknown percentage of turkeys are plumped with the asthma drug ractopamine before slaughter. Up to 20 percent of ractopamine is still there when you buy it.

Since 1998, more than 1,700 US pork lovers have been “poisoned” this way. For this very health threat, ractopamine-laced meats are banned in 160 different countries! Russia issued a ban on US meat imports, effective February 11, 2013, until it’s certified ractopamine-free. In animals, it’s linked to reducedreproductive function, increased mastitis and increased death. It damages the human cardiovascular system and may cause hyperactivity, chromosomal abnormalities and behavioral changes. Currently, US meats aren’t even tested for it.

Where it’s banned: 160 countries across Europe, Russia, mainland China and Republic of China (Taiwan).

#4:  Flame Retardant Drinks

Mountain Dew and other drinks in the US contain the synthetic chemical brominated vegetable oil (BVO), originally patented as a flame retardant.

BVO bioaccumulates in human tissue and breast milk; animal studies report reproductive and behavioral problems. Bromine alters the central nervous and endocrine systems and promotes iodine deficiency, causing skin rashes, acne, loss of appetite, fatigue and cardiac arrhythmias. The featured article explains:

“The FDA has flip-flopped on BVO’s safety, originally classifying it as ‘generally recognized as safe,’ but reversing that call, now defining it as an ‘interim food additive,’ a category reserved for possibly questionable substances used in food.”

Where it’s banned: Europe and Japan

#5:  Processed Foods and Artificial Food Dyes

More than 3,000 preservatives, flavorings and colors are added to US foods, many of which are banned in other countries. The featured article noted:

“Boxed Mac & Cheese, cheddar flavored crackers, Jell-O and many kids’ cereals contain red 40, yellow 5, yellow 6 and/or blue 2 … (which) can cause behavioral problems as well as cancer, birth defects and other health problems in laboratory animals. Red 40 and yellow 6 are also suspected of causing an allergy-like hypersensitivity reaction in children. The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that some dyes are also “contaminated with known carcinogens.”

In countries where these food dyes are banned, companies like Kraft employ natural colorants like paprika extract and beetroot.

Where it’s banned: Norway and Austria. Britain advised companies against using food dyes by the end of 2009. The European Union requires a warning notice on most foods containing dyes.

#6:  Arsenic-Laced Chicken

Arsenic-based drugs are approved in US-produced animal feed because they cause animals to grow quicker and meats products to look pinker and “fresher.” The FDA says arsenic-based drugs are safe safe because they contain organic arsenic … But organic arsenic can turn into inorganic arsenic, run through contaminated manure and leach into drinking water.

The European Union has never approved using arsenic in animal feed; US environmental groups have sued the FDA to remove them.

Where it’s banned: The European Union

#7:  Bread with Potassium Bromate

Bread, hamburger and hotdog buns are “enriched” with potassium bromate, or bromide, linked to kidney and nervous system damage, thyroid problems, gastrointestinal discomfort and cancer.

While commercial baking companies claim it renders dough more tolerable to bread hooks, Pepperidge Farm and others use only unbromated flour without experiencing “structural problems.”

Where it’s banned: Canada, China and the EU

#8:  Olestra/Olean

Olestra, or Olean, created by Procter & Gamble, is a calorie- and cholesterol-free fat substitute in fat-free snacks like chips and french fries. Three years ago, Time Magazine named it one of the worst 50 inventions ever. MSN noted:

“Not only did a 2011 study from Purdue University conclude rats fed potato chips made with Olean gained weight … several reports of adverse intestinal reactions to the fake fat include diarrhea, cramps and leaky bowels. And because it interferes  with the absorption of fat soluble vitamins such as A, D, E and K, the FDA requires these vitamins be added to any product made with Olean or olestra.”

Where it’s banned: The UK and Canada

#9:  Preservatives BHA and BHT

BHA (butylated hydroxyanisole) and BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene) are common preservatives in foods like cereal, nut mixes, chewing gum, butter spread, meat and beer. The National Toxicology Program’s 2011 Report on Carcinogens says BHA may trigger allergic reactions and hyperactivity and “is reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen.”

Where it’s banned: Both are banned in parts of the European Union and Japan; the UK doesn’t allow BHA in infant foods.

#10:  Milk and Dairy Products Made with rBGH

Recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH), a synthetic version of natural bovine hormone is injected into cows to increase milk production. Monsanto developed it from genetically engineered E. coli bacteria, marketed as “Posilac.”

But it’s banned in at least 30 other nations. Why? It converts normal tissue cells into cancerous ones, increasing colorectal, prostate and breast cancer risks. Among other diseases, injected cows suffer exorbitant rates of mastitis, contaminating milk with pus and antibiotics.

In 1997, two Fox-affiliate investigative journalists, Jane Akre and Steve Wilson attempted to expose thedangers of rBGH, but lawyers for Monsanto – a major advertiser with the Florida network – sent letters promising “dire consequences” if the story aired.

In 1999, the United Nations Safety Agency ruled unanimously not to endorse rBGH milk, resulting in an international ban on US milk.

The Cancer Prevention Coalition, trying for years to affect a dairy industry ban of rBGH, resubmitting apetition to FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg in January 2010, but the FDA sticks to its false position that rBGH-treated milk is no different than milk from untreated cows.

Action: Look for products labeled “rBGH-free” or “No rBGH.”

Where it’s banned: Australia, New Zealand, Israel, EU and Canada

Take Control of Your Health with REAL Food

If you value your health, avoid foods containing harmful ingredients and ditch processed foods entirely – even if they are permitted in the US.  Opt for fresh whole foods, organic, grass-fed/pasture-raised beef and poultry, dairy products and eggs.


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yike-a-zoids!  Some of these have been around a very long time.  I remember avoiding BHA and BHT and artificial flavors and colors more than 30 years ago!

I'm still trying to get my wife to stop buying farm-raised fish.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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How do you know if fish is farm raised or not?
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Quoted from ToHimIPray
How do you know if fish is farm raised or not?



Good question.  Can't find specific answers but generally if you're going to a fish monger, ask
what you're buying.  In restaurants unless something says "wild", it's generally farmed.  And it
can be farmed but also wild caught.  I"ve bought wild salmon in Trader Joe's...frozen.  I can go
to my local fish store and they sell wild fish vs. farmed fish....and the price is far higher for wild.

http://seafood.edf.org/buying-fish-what-you-need-know



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It's depressing, isn't it? And it's not just food that our "government" controls...it's also poisons in toys for our children and pets...


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Good point, Drea!
When I search for new toys for my dogs, I read labels but some are useless;I used to smell them, can't anymore ;I feel if they have that slick, oily chemical coating, etc.

Most of our dogs toys are cotton, frozen tied- in- a- knot washcloths, knuckle bones, cotton wubbas and frisbees(flying squirrels) and tennis balls. I did recently get them the "stuffing-free" racoon, skunk and rabbit. They love to shake them and tease and take them away from each other.

Thanks for all the important info, Chloe!   


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Wow!  Going shopping for food is like going through a minefield!  Being an O/Hunter I do eat a lot of beef, chicken, and fish.  So this explains why "wild" fish is so dern expensive and hard to find.  how does one find Ractopamine free beef?  Or arsenic free chicken?  Shopping for my blood and genotype (and for my A husband) is already challenging enough.  I don't know what to do.


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Quoted from ToHimIPray
How do you know if fish is farm raised or not?


Quoted from Chloe
I can go
to my local fish store and they sell wild fish vs. farmed fish....and the price is far higher for wild.

http://seafood.edf.org/buying-fish-what-you-need-know



The quoted article is quite good and should be required reading.

As a broad rule of thumb price and/or labels should allow you to identify wild fish vs. farmed. It is a good idea to find a vendor or food processors you can trust and go from there. The general public apparently has no idea that there is any difference between wild and farmed so you are left to your own devices.

A comment on the OP. I think that in some cases when the EU bans a particular product it is for political or economic reasons rather than concern for public safety. They subsidise their agricultural industry and aim for independence of food supply so some of their rulings seem to be simply intent on curbing imports rather than actually making sense from a health perspective.






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Wow!  Going shopping for food is like going through a minefield!  Being an O/Hunter I do eat a lot of beef, chicken, and fish.  So this explains why "wild" fish is so dern expensive and hard to find.  how does one find Ractopamine free beef?  Or arsenic free chicken?  Shopping for my blood and genotype (and for my A husband) is already challenging enough.  I don't know what to do.

Great question! I can deal with BHA / BHT, etc.  They're on the list of ingredients.

For fish, meat & poultry I rely on the store.  There's definitely a taste difference for me b/t farmed and wild fish.  A wild fish tastes like an ocean or stream.  So I start with a leap of faith, and then verify.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Good point, Drea!
When I search for new toys for my dogs, I read labels but some are useless;I used to smell them, can't anymore ;I feel if they have that slick, oily chemical coating, etc.

Most of our dogs toys are cotton, frozen tied- in- a- knot washcloths, knuckle bones, cotton wubbas and frisbees(flying squirrels) and tennis balls. I did recently get them the "stuffing-free" racoon, skunk and rabbit. They love to shake them and tease and take them away from each other.

Thanks for all the important info, Chloe!   


My dog's favorite treat is kale chips.  All her toys are organic cotton to show you what an obsessive dog mom I am... But I lost 3 other dogs over the years to cancer or kidney failure and
I'm quite sure it was their shampoos with parabens,plastic water dishes, commercial dog food, chew toys and the pesticides that our dogs had no option but to come in contact with.  I believe these things plus the excessive amounts of vaccines contributed to having unhealthy dogs. Our present dog is eating a BARF diet....eats from metal dishes, drinks purified water, gets bathed in an all natural botanical shampoo/conditioner and despite it all, got bitten by ticks so many times...has battled Lyme 3 times, Erlichiosis, staph....and still with our supreme effort to avoid as much toxicity entering her body as humanly possible, I think she manages to stay healthier than
our other dogs could.  This is our only dog without gut problems.

I feel like we're so bombarded by invisible toxins that it's THE reason we've got such a health
crisit in America.  There is an entire industry focused on caring for the sick but duh....
how about an entire industry devoted to clearing up the garbage that surrounds us all.  Promote
farmers and growers of healthy food.  Not the American way. Not enough money  for agribusiness.

And my heart goes out to everyone attempting to make themselves healthier by eating right....
facing the higher cost of food in general.....Purer, cleaner food is often more expensive than the
GMO and tainted food.....It's simply idiotic!!!!

Options like growing your own garden, raising your own chickens for meat, for eggs....buying
cheaper cuts of better quality meats and finding new ways to prepare that food.  The fish is
a major conundrum for me.  I simply don't trust much of the fish, no matter what it's being
called.  I'm aware that fish can be farmed....and when fish get to a particular size, are thrown into a body of water and then are wild caught.  So, a baby fish's life began as a lab rat...and then it grows for awhile naturally.  I guess that's half bad....
but "wild caught" means nothing but that. It defines how the fish was taken out of the water.
Says nothing about the health of the fish nor does it imply that the waters were safe.

Canned tuna and canned salmon are often what I choose. Plus sardines because they are small
and don't spend much time in the water to absorb a lot of toxins...  And then you have to be careful about the can itself. I've bought salmon and tuna in those foil packages....but are these foil bags lined with toxic plastic?  I trust sellers like Vital Choice....Problem is that all fish is super expensive and shipping to get it across the country is very expensive.

Give me a life on a distant island....where I walk around barefooted and nobody has touched my
food or polluted what I'm eating.  I'm dreaming right?  


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wow that's scary! Do we ever really know what's in our food. We have farmed fish here too, so it is not banned outside America.
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I guess we have to remember that our bodies are able to get rid of toxins in moderation. So we must do the best we can & not obsess about some things.
I do eat less fish than I used to & don't crave it as often.
I am buying more rotisserie chicken from Whole Foods. While it isn't organic, I feel it is better quality & saves time in preparation & cooking(not to mention cleaning up the pan). The price went up to $9 per chicken, but good quality chicken can be a few dollars a pound plus the labor & energy to prepare it, so I feel I am getting a good deal.  My AB husband usually doesn't get any of it. Ha!


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to Lady from 29P,

Look for 100% grass raised beef, lamb, etc.  Sometimes it will also say "grass raised and grass finished".  If you can't find it in your local stores you will have to order it on line.  It is expensive - but isn't your health worth it?

Buy only organically raised poultry.  

Even local farmers can be feeding their animals poisonous ingredients if they are buying their feed at the local feed store or farm coop, so always ask, ask, ask!!!!

I even ask the vendors at our local farmers market "what chemicals do you use on your products" and for farm eggs: "what kind of feed do you use for your chickens?"
Perhaps in a city people might easily lie to you, but we live in a semi rural area and people here are pretty straight forward.  I always very politely thank them for the information whether I buy anything from them or not.


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Sorry - truly sorry, Yaeli.  I absolutely did NOT mean that city folk are not good people.  I was one most of my life.  

It just has seemed to me in the past 30 years of my life that I've lived in smaller communities that people generally are more open in these less heavily populated areas.  There are good and not good people everywhere.  


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Sorry too, I didn't mean it that way - on the contrary, I am 100% with you in this! It's tough because it's so true.



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wow that's scary! Do we ever really know what's in our food. We have farmed fish here too, so it is not banned outside America.


I think that worldwide the amount of farmed fish sold is roughly the same as wild caught fish so it is by no means a local problem. The public generally does not seem to appreciate the difference so it is up to the buyer to investigate what they are actually getting.






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I guess we have to remember that our bodies are able to get rid of toxins in moderation. So we must do the best we can & not obsess about some things.

I am buying more rotisserie chicken from Whole Foods. While it isn't organic, I feel it is better quality & saves time in preparation & cooking(not to mention cleaning up the pan). The price went up to $9 per chicken, but good quality chicken can be a few dollars a pound plus the labor & energy to prepare it, so I feel I am getting a good deal.  My AB husband usually doesn't get any of it. Ha!

I agree about the toxins we need to get rid of...  As long as we maintain reasonable gut function, we should be OK...

I hope your AB hub. doesn't even want the chicken...


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I guess we have to remember that our bodies are able to get rid of toxins in moderation. So we must do the best we can & not obsess about some things.
I do eat less fish than I used to & don't crave it as often.
I am buying more rotisserie chicken from Whole Foods. While it isn't organic, I feel it is better quality & saves time in preparation & cooking(not to mention cleaning up the pan). The price went up to $9 per chicken, but good quality chicken can be a few dollars a pound plus the labor & energy to prepare it, so I feel I am getting a good deal.  My AB husband usually doesn't get any of it. Ha!


Do you know anything specific about the poultry you're buying in WF?  Is it advertised in the store
or on their website that they're feeding their birds a specific diet and making sure there is no
arsenic in their feed?  I know there is an illusion that what is purchased in WF is of high quality,
but they also sell GMO foods....which makes me wonder if they'd be okay with GMO foods like
corn being fed to the poultry they sell.  I wish I could verify that their poultry was safe.


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Funny, 'cause we also complain about the opposite: Things banned here but permitted in foreign countries. In pharmaceuticals, very often the FDA will not clear a drug for use in the US; people leave the US for certain treatments....or a supplement is re-categorized as a drug and taken off our store shelves, but it's available as a supplement in other countries...


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The quoted article is quite good and should be required reading.

As a broad rule of thumb price and/or labels should allow you to identify wild fish vs. farmed. It is a good idea to find a vendor or food processors you can trust and go from there. The general public apparently has no idea that there is any difference between wild and farmed so you are left to your own devices.

A comment on the OP. I think that in some cases when the EU bans a particular product it is for political or economic reasons rather than concern for public safety. They subsidise their agricultural industry and aim for independence of food supply so some of their rulings seem to be simply intent on curbing imports rather than actually making sense from a health perspective.



I don´t agree on that - sure there farming is supported - but in general lots of the foods that are illegal in EU -is mainly cause we have kept the industry less able to lobby that the c**p is harmless- I must admit that part makes me happy about  EU and food safety.
I am so shoked to see how EVEN organic produce in US is filled with c**p.


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Age: 70
Great info Chloe.  I think that we just do the best we can within whatever limitations we have.  I do most of my shopping at WFs and I know it's expensive but I only have to shop for myself. For some reason I only have fish when I'm out except for tuna.  I do buy canned tuna that says wild caught.  I do get a nice piece of salmon at a good restaurant if I'm eating out.  I buy a lot of buffalo which I believe is always grass fed.  

I know my son and his family who aren't BTD followers do the best they can - I have got them eating organic eggs at least.  

Just do the best you can...
Jane
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