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Adopted4
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I was having an off morning and feeling a little funky before church this morning. After we arrived at Sunday School people were asking for prayer requests and talking about medical procedures in details that were starting to gross me out. Since we are attending a new church that is structurally quite large, I left the classroom to look for a bathroom since I was feeling ill. I had no idea where to find one in that particular wing of the church and before I could find one I sat myself down in the hallway and put my head down because I felt faint.

A couple was walking through the hallway to assist me and were concerned because they thought something was seriously wrong. By the time I realized more people were gathering around me to help, someone told me 911 was on its way. This really upset me because I've had fainting spells off and on all my life, including in my childhood and never have I had a doctor conclude that it's ever been related to anything serious like a heart problem.

When the paramedics showed up, they took my blood pressure and it was 90/56, which in their opinion was "way too low". I explained that I've seen a lot of doctors over the years and those numbers didn't sound that much lower than what it normally is when I'm healthy. After all, I had just fainted so I would expect it to be on the low side. I was trying to sit up to move to a less conspicuous place when they insisted I get my blood sugar checked. I adamantly said no to that as needles, as small as they are, ALWAYS make me feel queazy and I didn't need more reason to feel ill. Of course, they got their way with that even though I knew I it was fine as I've never had issues with diabetes and I had eaten that morning. Needless, to say, by this time I knew my cortisol levels were going through the roof and after the finger prick I threw up right there on the floor. Everybody was insisting I go to the emergency room in spite of the fact that I kept trying to explain why I felt faint and ill.

I did agree to be wheeled out to the ambulance in the parking lot to keep an eye on me for a few minutes and recheck my blood pressure. But I told them I would not go to the hospital as my gut told me there is nothing seriously wrong and that I needed to go home and rest (that's what I should be doing now instead of writing this post). Unfortunately, the head paramedic was so alarmist about the low blood pressure and thought it should have been going back up from the original reading when they first showed up (90/56). She was going on and on about me possibly killing myself or someone else if I"m driving someplace and suddenly black out or I'm out somewhere and just collapse and crack my head open on something. This conversation was going on right in front of my husband, so now he's afraid to leave me alone in the house! He believes I need constant monitoring now. Again, this type of thing has happened from time to time.

So, it's imperative I do something to, least of all, calm my husbands fears. I googled the archives on this website and read previous posts about dizziness/fainting. As everyone else on those threads discussed, I do believe I've had adrenal issues all my life and yes they have been taking a beating again recently. My understanding is that some other people have had low blood pressure with similar numbers, and some doctors have not found those kind of numbers alarming if the person is otherwise in good health.

Licorice root was discussed in raising blood pressure, but it's a black dot on my SWAMI. Should I take it anyway if the benefits outweigh the risks? Also, I do plan to take extra organic sea salt between meals as I know the adrenal glands dump a lot of sodium during times of stress.

Sorry this was so long, but I need to do something and fast.


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Not related to present situation:

Licorice root is normally recommended for Bs and Os not As.


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Might want to think of teas that would work well.

This is one recommended combo

o Mint

o Rue

o Mistletoe

o Rosemary

o Cayenne (This is most likely not recommended for you generally, but sometimes helps to kick start things)


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Other ideas Holy Basil (not regular basil), oat straw.

B12, Iron, Vitamin C, Pantothenic Acid, NADH, Exacta or Polyvite, Polyflora


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I've had fainting spells off and on all my life...




I just watched an episode of "mystery diagnosis" where a woman started having fainting spells and then seizures whenever she ate.  Come to find out her vagus nerve was stopping her heart for up to 10 seconds when she ate, causing all of her symptoms... A pace maker solved her problem.

I hope this helps.


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It sounds like the folks helping you were causing more problems for you due to their own anxieties about what might be going on.  Of course, I cannot tell you what is happening with you, or what you should do, and it's always a good idea to rule out anything like anemia, low blood sugar or any other thing that a professional might be equipped to diagnose.

For what it's worth, I had a similar thing going on most of my life, where I would pass out if I got a shot or had blood drawn.  And, if I was hearing about another person's medical procedures or watching someone else having a vaccination, I would also get faint.  My face would get very white, I would break out in a cold sweat and I would feel nauseous.  Once, when watching my small daughter get blood drawn and being stuck several times in an attempt to locate a vein, I felt those symptoms coming on and put my head between my knees until I could walk.  Then I went to the rest room and had an attack of diarrhea.

I don't know of any one thing that has helped me overcome that problem, but it has nearly gone away.  A few things I have done/changed:
Following the right diet for me (via Dr. D)
Getting proteins, fats and carbs with each meal.
Stopping the habit of beginning my day with a high-carb breakfast.
Eliminating sugar and sweeteners.
Actively working to manage stress in a healthy way.
Supporting my adrenals via Dr. D's recommendations for my blood type.
Getting in bed earlier and getting enough time in bed every night.
Taking a late afternoon rest with my legs elevated.



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I think licorice is slow acting so if you consumed it for a week or two your blood pressure would gradually rise, but you would not see an immediate rise in blood pressure from taking a licorice pill.  I think you could get a faster effect by drinking some salt water.


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My gut instinct tells me you were likely dehydrated and your electrolytes were off.  This used to
happen to me when I was a kid in camp....we'd go hiking....the counselors would give us salt pills
so we didn't overly perspire and for some reason, I would pass out.  They'd give me a lot of water
and I'd feel better.  But it would happen pretty often. Happened to me a few times as an adult
but I didn't fully pass out....just got extremely weak, nauseous and felt like my legs were going
to crumble under me.

So I'm wondering if maybe you drank coffee this morning?  Even if you didn't, anything with caffeine can lead to mild dehydration....or likely you didn't start your day with lemon/water and a pinch of sea salt which would have done a lot to help you stay hydrated.

What did you eat for breakfast?  Curious,,,,did you drink coffee or have tea with caffeine?  

Here's something to read but if it had been me, I think I would have allowed the ambulance to take me to the ER if for nothing else but to be put on fluids (saline) for 30-40 minutes just to leave fully hydrated while being observed...If fluids had normalized your blood pressure you'd
be able to rule out that anything was seriously wrong.

http://www.medicinenet.com/orthostatic_hypotension/page2.htm

And also I wondered if your adrenal glands are weak....did you get upset when you heard people
speaking about medical procedures?  Did this (even subconsciously) trigger fear or panic?  You might have started breathing shallowly when people were speakiing.....causing you to have less oxygen, leading to anxiety/panic.  If you're breathing OUT shorter breaths than you're taking IN, you can easily make yourself feel lightheaded.  Hyperventilation could easily lead to feeling weak and dizzy.


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I would also suggest more salt.  I have heard of 90/60 being considered OK for BP, but each hospital & each husband might have differing opinions!  I would develop a taste for more saltiness in your food. That may get everyone off your back.

Our church has developed a medical team who can evaluate a person & then determine whether or not to call an ambulance. DId they have that or just panicky laypeople?  Anyway, the next time they get graphic, make a beeline for the exit!   Sorry this had to happen.

The worst part is the nagging husband!


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O.K. lots to address, and THANK YOU all for your quick responses. I bypassed the annual church picnic today as it is quite hot again today and the rest of the family went knowing I'm doing fine here at home, except for the headache I have. I was able to stand in the kitchen long enough to make a big salad for the family for lunch as well as throw together a side dish for the family to take to the picnic.

My breakfast was very healthy: scrambled eggs mixed with steamed kale sprinkled with paprika and added ghee to it, and a small glass of grapefruit juice (all superfoods by the way). Oh, and I did have my usual glass of lemon water upon getting up this morning (no sea salt though). I was feeling stressed though as I was dealing with an aggravating situation with one of my kids and I was feeling rushed from the moment I got up until we arrived at church (which was late of course).

I don't let myself get dehydrated as I am very conscientious about my water consumption and I don't drink coffee. Sometimes I drink some caffeinated green tea, but not enough to get dehydrated. I seldom drink alcohol as it never leaves me feeling very well afterwards or the next day.

Perhaps the church has a liability procedure they must follow if someone is appearing to be getting ill where they're mandated to call for emergency help, I really don't know for sure. But I'm sure if I had known there was indeed a bathroom right around the corner from my classroom, it wouldn't have turned into such a big deal. As I said before, the series of events had such a huge impact on my stress levels it literally all made me sick to my stomach-many paramedics and bystanders staring at me and no one seemed to care what my opinion or assessment of the situation was.

Normally it wouldn't bother me too much when people talk about things that make some people squeamish, but I was already feeling yucky and to add to it the room I was in was very warm, crowded, and the door was shut-another reason why I wanted to get out of there when I started feeling ill. I've had some fainting spells as a child and an adult, particularly if I"m not feeling well and I find myself in circumstances that are bothersome or stressful. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the adrenal issues I've had all my life-weak adrenals=low blood pressure=dizziness and fainting spells.

Our family will be moving the next few weeks locally into a home we just bought, which I'm very happy and excited about. Nevertheless, the busyness has picked up as we're starting to pack boxes and I"m "cracking the whip" in terms of getting all my kids back to a regular home school routine, so I've had my share of stress and aggravation the past couple weeks. I know, some of you are probably wondering why I"m "cracking the whip", but the 3rd and 4th weeks of the month will be the most busy and I don't wanting the kids starting the new school year in October, when we also plan on going on vacation to visit my family in Minnesota. Never a dull moment, I know, but I've got to do a better job managing my stress levels.

By the way, I didn't mention that I am taking 120mg of gingko a day, as recommended for type A's with high cortisol levels. I did take one this morning after breakfast, but I haven't heard that it would have a negative effect on blood pressure. It feels like it has been helping me "stay relaxed" even when times are busy and most of the time I sleep more soundly than before as a result of it.


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Hmm-- I wonder did they lay you down and raise your feet up? This would have helped bring the blood to your brain and some oxygen would have helped.


Sounds like a vasovagal reaction to me nothing very serious but sometimes our brains and rectums get signals crossed. See what I highlighted in blue below that is what I say it is-- but who am I?

Let me tell you a story about my neighbor a healthy blood type B 50 years old. A few months ago I got a frantic phone call from her two teenage daughters who said mom was sitting at the kitchen table and passed out. I ran over and found her slumped in a kitchen chair, I placed her on the floor ( she weighs about 90 lbs (a small blood type B) and put her feet up-- it took a few minutes but she finally started to come around. She slipped in and out of a state of almost passing out for a few minutes then insisted she had to mover her bowels so we stood her up and got her to the bathroom--, her daughters began to tell me that she cut herself on a pipe clamp under the sink and had applied pressure to it as best she could,  she went outside cause she had a flush of heat and once she felt better came in sat at the table and passed out.

Her hand was no longer bleeding but the sight of the blood was enough to take her back to her childhood in France when she was 9 years old. Out in a field with an older friend who had a pocket knife she sliced off the tip of her finger with the knife, this quick thinking young man who was with her, took a potato from the field and carved a hole in it and shoved her severed finger inside to stop the bleeding and save the finger.

She passed out and he carried her home-- they saved the finger but she went through a lot of pain in her finger afterwards as it healed.

So when she cut her hand under the sink 40 years later it was like she was 9 years old again-- all the pain came back to her like  a flood and she passed out.

We did call an ambulance and have her taken to hospital for fluids her kids where really upset and her husband was away for the weekend. We spent hours in the ER only to find nothing wrong except a vasovagal reaction. Of course the ER doc had to stitch her  hand up ( $$$). This is the second time this has happened to her with the sight of blood. She fell in the shower a few months ago after she cut her hand and we had to take her to the hospital then too.

Since non of the other things will fit you I'll bet it is a simple reaction to too much medical talk and you internalize it.



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Box 1: Neurally mediated reflex syncopal syndromes

Vasovagal (emotional, common) faint

Carotid sinus syncope

Neurocardiogenic syncope (head up tilt/gravitational syncope)

Increased intrathoracic pressure Cough syncope Sneeze syncope Trumpet player's syncope Weight lifter's syncope Mess Trick syncope Valsalva induced syncope

Postmicturition syncope

Gastrointestinal stimulation syncope Rectal examination Defaecation syncope Gastrointestinal instrumentation

Oesophageal/nasopharyngeal stimulation Swallow syncope Glossopharyngeal neuralgia

Diving reflex

Drug induced syncope Glyceryl trinitrate Isoprenaline

[reproduced from reference 7, with permission]


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Ashwaghanda-- please

Best thing for A's according to Dr. D--

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jun2006_report_ashwa_01.htm


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Thanks for answering my questions....It's starting to sound more like you were super stressed and
probably not breathing properly......Agitation and hyperventilating often makes anxiety worse...so maybe do some alternate nostril breathing when you feel you've got too much on your
plate.  Sodium is important for adrenal health, so maybe put a pinch of sea salt in all the water you
drink, just bo be safe.  Your breakfast sounded fine....although you threw up so wondering if you
had digested that meal.  Often a protein based meal for type A requires extra  HCL and sodium helps the body to produce HCL....The Teacher's Activator formula contains betaine HCL which is recommended to take twice a day, so if you avoided salting your food today and didn't add salt to your drinking water with the lemon, it's likely you didn't produce enough HCL to digest your breakfast
very well.  Here's the Activator formula http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GT3ACT
I find I can't eat heavy protein meals unless I take one of these pills before I eat.

Not particularly saying that low blood pressure and fainting has anything specifically to do with
low HCL, but so much of our health and immune system is located in our guts that I'm pretty sure that gut balance leads to a general sense of well being all around.   I find that when I regularly
consume HCL with protein meals that I feel much calmer and sleep better.  I used to have a lot
of anxiety and rarely do I feel that way anymore.


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http://larryrmiller.hubpages.com/hub/The-Stomach--A-Very-Complex-Organ

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.co.....stric_secretion.html

And here's someone's point of view that the vagus nerve is impacted by having a hiatal
hernia. I think even if this is syncope, a vagus nerve problem, I would think you'd want to know why.

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1430044

The gut/brain association probably has to be addressed from both the gut and the brain.  Calming herbs...
calming exercises and of course, diet.  But digesting everything we eat is just as important as eating the right
foods.


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I can't watch or listen to other people showing / talking about medical procedures without getting light-headed, faint, throwing up, etc...  I just walk away when it starts because I know how I react...  I don't know why or if some experience from the past is causing this, but since I know about this, I just don't push it...

Quiet rest in a cool location is about the only recovery I can do...  People stressing me would NOT be helpful, but fortunately, my WW would step in and tell them to go jump in a proverbial lake...


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Check your potassium levels too. Mom's an A and that was the culprit of her very first fanting spell in church.


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I would follow the fatigue book asap, if you are not already following your personalized swami


also check the online protocol index


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no zeizures?  just asking.  


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Thank you again all. I'm feeling a bit sluggish today, but I placed an order of ashwagandha, cortiguard, and pantothenic acid which will be arriving this week. I"ll probably try others in the future, but I've got to get the best bang for my buck and those 3 seem like a good start to improving my general health. In addition, I"m increasing my sea salt consumption between meals with water or lemon water.

Andrea, thank you for your post about vasovagal reaction and your neighbors experience with it. I can completely understand how an early traumatic event can trigger extreme emotions or stress when a similar event happens. I can't say that that is the case in my situation, but when I"m in a situation where I have to have a blood test, I always tell the nurse I want to lay down since I want to prevent a fainting spell. Injections and needles do bother me more than the sight of blood itself. When I cut myself in the kitchen while preparing food, it's the intensity of the pain that gets me feeling queazy and faint, not the amount of blood. A minor cut I can ignore and continue until I"m finished doing what I"m doing, but sharper pain forces me to stop temporarily to sit down so I don't pass out cold on the kitchen floor.

Chloe, I have addressed my past HCL issues by often times chewing on some ginger crystals either right before a larger meal, or later if I don't feel like I"m digesting well. I buy them in packets which are intended to be added to beverages, but I like consuming them right out of the packet because I can feel how they increase my digestive juices. Although, I didn't have any the morning of my episode as I didn't think I needed them prior to leaving for church since it was a smaller, healthy breakfast. The amount of time from eating until I threw up was less than an hour, so I"m not surprised my breakfast was not digested. Also, I've thought off and on about taking genotype supplements, but I have this hangup choosing Teacher supplements over Warrior as SWAMI did have me rated as a Warrior for quite a number of months before all my information was updated (MB personality test and secretor test) and I went from 39% Warrior to 42% Teacher. I"m pretty equal in that regard so I prefer DPN supplements that simply address my type A status.

ABJoe, I agree with you about dealing with a potential fainting situation, and yes I normally handle those situations appropriately. However, as I said in my original post, I walked the wrong way out of the classroom and just couldn't find a bathroom or a private room to retreat to before I had to put my head down in the hallway. From there everything went downhill fast.

Serrafa, my potassium levels should be O.K. as I do drink lemon water every day and sometimes twice a day, which is a good source of potassium.

Lola, I may look into buying the "fatigue book", but AFTER I move into my new home in a couple weeks.

Goldie, I have never suffered from seizures, during fainting spells or otherwise.


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Not sure ginger has anything to do with your HCL levels. Nor would you know if you have adequate
levels of HCL without being tested.  Symptoms vary...Indigestion being one symptom but you could
just as well have acid reflux and think your HCL is too high when in fact it's too low..  As a food, ginger might soothe an upset stomach, but HCL is required to specifically digest protein.  Those with blood type A naturally produce very little HCL and so when protein is eaten and little HCL is produced, the results are a varied amount of systemic issues.

That one particular Teacher supplement I linked you to contains HCL.  Do any of your A formulas contain HCL?

Common Symptoms Of Low Hydrochloric Acid

Bloating or belching, especially after eating
Burning in the stomach, especially after eating
Fullness or heaviness in the stomach after eating
Nausea after eating or taking supplements
Intestinal gas
Indigestion
Bad breath
Food allergies
Itching around the rectum
Diarrhea or constipation
Weak or cracked fingernails
Dilated blood vessels in the cheeks or nose (in nonalcoholics)
Skin break-outs or acne
Iron deficiency
Chronic intestinal parasites
Undigested food in the stool
Chronic candida infection

Diseases Associated With Low Hydrochloric Acid

Asthma
Diabetes
Osteoporosis
Arthritis
Hepatitis
Eczema
Acne rosacea
Psoriasis
Gallbladder disease
Herpes
Hives
Hyperthyroid
Hypothyroid
Thyrotoxicosis
Autoimmune disorders
Lupus erythematosus
Myasthenia gravis
Pernicious anemia
Celiac disease
Sjogren’s Syndrome


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Not sure ginger has anything to do with your HCL levels. Nor would you know if you have adequate
levels of HCL without being tested.  Symptoms vary...Indigestion being one symptom but you could
just as well have acid reflux and think your HCL is too high when in fact it's too low..  As a food, ginger might soothe an upset stomach, but HCL is required to specifically digest protein.  Those with blood type A naturally produce very little HCL and so when protein is eaten and little HCL is produced, the results are a varied amount of systemic issues.

That one particular Teacher supplement I linked you to contains HCL.  Do any of your A formulas contain HCL?

Common Symptoms Of Low Hydrochloric Acid

Bloating or belching, especially after eating
Burning in the stomach, especially after eating
Fullness or heaviness in the stomach after eating
Nausea after eating or taking supplements
Intestinal gas
Indigestion
Bad breath
Food allergies
Itching around the rectum
Diarrhea or constipation
Weak or cracked fingernails
Dilated blood vessels in the cheeks or nose (in nonalcoholics)
Skin break-outs or acne
Iron deficiency
Chronic intestinal parasites
Undigested food in the stool
Chronic candida infection

Diseases Associated With Low Hydrochloric Acid

Asthma
Diabetes
Osteoporosis
Arthritis
Hepatitis
Eczema
Acne rosacea
Psoriasis
Gallbladder disease
Herpes
Hives
Hyperthyroid
Hypothyroid
Thyrotoxicosis
Autoimmune disorders
Lupus erythematosus
Myasthenia gravis
Pernicious anemia
Celiac disease
Sjogren’s Syndrome


I have taken DPN supplements Polyflora and Deflect A in the past; perhaps one of them had HCL, but not sure. Right now I'm taking DPN quercetin to alleviate headache symptoms associated with free radical damage, and it also contains a little bromelain. I do have some low HCL symptoms, but far less so now than I had just before starting the blood type/genotype diet. That's actually how I got connected to the blood type diet because as healthy as I thought I was eating, I was having more and more heartburn and extreme digestive pain when I finally figured out that I had intestinal parasites. I was following a strict anti-parasite cleanse when I started learning about the blood type diet.

Perhaps I would benefit from the Teacher catalyst. I think my immune system/digestive tract behaves more like a Teacher than a Warrior, even though I have many physical features of a Warrior. I will likely try it after I use up the supplements I will be receiving this week.

Thanks for all the info about low HCL; it obviously wasn't something I was very knowledgeable about, until now.


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Basically what I was trying to say is that it was s vaso vagal reaction and nothing to get too worried over.

Was not saying you had a traumatic experience-- just letting you know that emotions can trigger these things and it is no need to worry.

Just know your limits and take care of yourself in those situations.

We all have our triggers.


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I have had that happen,except mine are seizures due to lack of food as I am a newbie still adjusting to diet.  The best vegetable on the market you could google, is kohlarabi spelling incorrect it is loaded with vitamins and helps those whose blood sugar drops (hence seizure). You could eat it raw/however guranteed you eat this everyday no issue again promise.  I agree with your blood pressure mine is always low physcian (mine) or in hospital say it is athletic better to have low blood pressure than high
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I have had that happen,except mine are seizures due to lack of food as I am a newbie still adjusting to diet.  The best vegetable on the market you could google, is kohlarabi spelling incorrect it is loaded with vitamins and helps those whose blood sugar drops (hence seizure). You could eat it raw/however guranteed you eat this everyday no issue again promise.  I agree with your blood pressure mine is always low physcian (mine) or in hospital say it is athletic better to have low blood pressure than high


I love kohlrabi but have never seen it grocery stores in the eastern U.S. It was easy to find in the midwest where I used to live. However, kohlrabi is only a neutral on my SWAMI while rutabaga is also in the cabbage/turnip category a diamond superfood, one vegetable that I eat very frequently now.

I agree with you that high blood pressure poses far more health risks than low blood pressure does. However, I am still attempting to address the root problem which appears to be adrenal fatigue. Although 100/60-something is usually as high as my blood pressure has ever been as long as I can remember, so as long as I"m feeling well and not lightheaded/faint, I'm not going to worry about the numbers too much.


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Went to the store today where they had a blood pressure machine near the pharmacy. The reading was 102/70, better than I hope or expected.

Now I just need to get my adrenals adjusted as I"m still feeling a bit stressed and fatigued. Closing day on my new home is Friday, so I'll need lots of energy after then until we're finished and settled in by the end of the month.


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