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Brimstone
Monday, September 2, 2013, 7:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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In the last few weeks I have been experiencing hot flushes especially at night which I assume is the start of menopausal symptoms, this is starting to become really disruptive and therefore have not been sleeping very well at all.
I have just turned 43 and am assuming these are menopausal symptoms...my mum started the change at age 38.
Does anyone have an good tips re diet or supplements that could help? I am an O-
Many thanks.
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FemBalance  helped me. Right now I'm just taking Black Cohosh as a tincture. Don't over dress, stick to cotton's.  I never wear socks to bed. It really helps for me to be able to stick a foot out from under the covers, funny how this will cool you down. I also found that a fan even in the winter was helpful. In the winter I' d just step outside on the deck.


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I have a sister that says the yam cream has helped.  Here is a thread on it might find something useful.

Worth a try

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/menopause/msg0912380314861.html


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DIM aids estrogen metabolism and has worked wonders for me, first with menstrual difficulties, then with heat flushes. It is a phytonutrient abundant in cruciferous veggies. You can Google it for tons of info  

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/natures-way-dim-plus-diindolylmethane-120-caps


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can be also related to so called *adrenal fatigue* symptoms are very similar here for all btypes ... would implement royal jelly and cordyceps.... the rest is to be found in the BTD encyclopedia for female balancing or menopausal support ...

all the best from Switzerland


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Brimstone
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Thank you Ladies for your brilliant advice.
I had suspected as much from my initial google searches although not quite trusting enough...
but by reading your posts I am confident that I am in good/safe  hands and now more sure of my next steps.
Hey, and if anyone could recommend the best Yam cream...
Thank you x
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regular routine every day, is waking up, meals and bedtime (preferrably before 10pm) regulates hormones and digestion.  symptoms can also be due to sluggish activity in digestive system, ie liver, intestines.
Make up some warm herbal tea (wise water) every morning (keep in thermus flask) and sip on this throughout day.  Make up smart spice mix and add it to your vegetables/grains, or sautee it in ghee, spices help to digest food and with elimination of wastes. to keep energy flowing so that heat doesn't rise and give you the symptoms.
eat stir fried vegetables (some greens especially, garlic, tumeric) at lunch time, this helps support liver.
Include some celery, cucumber in a raw juice which supports kidneys.
raw apple in your juice helps intestinal health.
beet and carrot in a raw fresh juice supports your liver.
manage stress with exercise or yoga/meditation.
think positive and walk tall and proud every day!
hope you feel better soon.
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I started getting hot flashes around age 44.  I used progesterone cream which took care of my symptoms.    I was lucky and my menopause was short lived.   I should add that progesterone cream helped my sister for a bit, but unfortunately not for long. Unfortunately her progesterone levels are very low.  She's been battling hot flashes for 4 years now.    A great menopause book is "What Doctor May Not Tell you about Menopause" by Doctor John Lee.
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Thanks Tina, have just started reading the "what doc may not tell you about pre-menopause" and am learning so much that I feel I should already know! Am amazed at what natural progesterone can do to help the body. I was intrigued to read that it can also (apparently) help to unblock fallopian tubes by re-establishing balance...wish I had known about this years ago...have been battling infertility for many years only to now discover that this could have been my key...
This should be essential reading for all women...unfortunately too late for me in that department, although am so grateful that it appears to be helping me now...have only been using the natural progesterone for a few days now and am already feeling as if I'm reclaiming my body...
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That's wonderful!   I hope it continues to help you.   I loved the book and Dr. Lee's approach to helping women.  Unfortunately I loaned my book to someone but I don't remember who.  
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Hi Brimstone, i´m just wondering which natural progesterone cream you are using? For a few months I used Natpro, which a fellow nutritionist said was the most natural organic one in the U.K. area...I think it might have been from Scotland.

Fortunately, I don´t need it at the moment..( I didn´t have hot flushes but had severe ´flooding´  which seemed to disappear having used the cream!).

Hope you continue to feel better and better...


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I got the most benefits from Dr. D's Fem Balance and freshly ground flax seeds (I prefer the blonde seeds).  Without either of these, hot flushes would annoy terribly!  



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btw, not to hijack this thread or anything but does anyone think it is weird that I have not gone through menopause yet and I'm about to turn 52 any second?  All my friends say, be glad, as it is better to have your hormones at a pre-menopausal level, so I'm cool with it, but I mean:  am I still gonna be fertile when I'm 90 or WHAT?  AARP sent me a membership solicitation yesterday, for God's sake (tore that sucker right in half and put it into the recycle bin immediately--DENIAL!).


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PT, I didn't stop my cycles until 58 so it's not all that weird....Not so bad getting the AARP card - lots of discounts.
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Quoted from Jane
PT, I didn't stop my cycles until 58 so it's not all that weird....Not so bad getting the AARP card - lots of discounts.

  I threw mine right into the recycle bin.  I'm not ready!

Thanks for the 411 on when you "paused"...hey, why don't they call it "menostop", not "menopause"?  Misleading!  It's not like it is some sort of intermission.

58, eh?  Okay, then.  


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PT, I´m almost 53 and no sign of my menstrual cycle ceasing    I seem to be peri-menopausal for about 5 yrs now ..irregular periods and some flooding..nothing else though. My doc said that it may go on like this for several more years so I suppose like Jane said ,it mustn´t be all that weird even though the "average age of menopause" is 51...


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My mom was 54 or 55.  Some women stop in their early 40's, or even younger. Every statistic is going to have some "outliers."

I also wonder if these statistics include women who went through menopause artificially (hysterectomy, ovary-destroying cancer treatments, etc.) Those would certainly bring the "average" age down.


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PT, I´m almost 53 and no sign of my menstrual cycle ceasing    I seem to be peri-menopausal for about 5 yrs now ..irregular periods and some flooding..nothing else though. My doc said that it may go on like this for several more years so I suppose like Jane said ,it mustn´t be all that weird even though the "average age of menopause" is 51...

omg, "flooding", can we tawk?     YESSSSSSSSSSSSS:  I get that, for the past however-many years, and it is quite the unwelcome thing in many sitches (like at work!).  I did finally (recently) figure out that it makes a huge diff which brand of tampon you use (menfolk, you may wish to look away right about now   ).  I was using a store brand for several years, as they stopped selling the brand I LOVE (o.b.).  All of a sudden, they sell the brand I like again, and they are SO MUCH BETTER as far as protecting during the aforementioned flooding.  Thank you for mentioning that you have that as a symptom, because I've never really talked about it with/to anyone but a few friends, in hushed tones, and that is how I refer to it, but I didn't know, one, that that is actually what it is called *lol*, and, two, that it is something that women experience when perimenopausal.  I just thought it was something weird happening to me, specifically, as I age and my periods change.  I did think it was/is one of a constellation of symptoms that seem to indicate, to my untrained self, anyway, that I am perimenopausal, but when I asked my EX-primary care doc about it in either 2009 or 10, the last time I had a check-up, she ran blood work and flatly told me that I'm not perimenopausal, or wasn't at that time, anyway.  I even asked, are you sure?  What about all these weird changes/symptoms I'm going through?  Yep, she said she was sure, no perimenopause indicated in my blood work.  Then again, p.s., I have since concluded that this particular primary care doc didn't know what she was talking about on several fronts.  Example:  she gave me my first-ever EKG (which I do appreciate, how thorough she was), and when the reading came back CRAZY (and what it really was/is, is that I have an electrical conduction prob in my heart, called left-bundle branch block, or LBBB for short, but she never said that), she scared me to DEATH--I literally left my physical that day thinking I was dying.  She said the EKG indicated I have a "hypertrophic" (thickened), enlarged heart.  Well, turns out, NO, I don't, my heart muscle is perfectly healthy as far as size and thickness and such.  When I told the cardiologist she sent me to what she said, he said, "We don't know any of that yet, all we know is you have left bundle branch block", and he ordered further tests to determine what all else might be going on, which thank GOD nothing was, which is rare with LBBB--usually it is ominous and indicates other bad stuff going on with it, like what the primary care doctor had summarily told me I had, based on the EKG alone, but in my case NO, I don't have any of that (thank God!!!), so she should have either zipped her mouth or said that it COULD indicate x, y and z.  Instead she scared me to death and I remained in that terrified state for several MONTHS, in between the EKG and getting the other tests.  It took a while to schedule the tests because insurance tried to deny them and the cardiologist had to fight for them.  ANYWAY:  this primary care doc left a lot to be desired on quite a few fronts, and I'm thinking the "you are not in perimenopause" statement was one of 'em.  I most certainly AM, chickadee.  Never argue with a perimenopausal woman!  *lol*!  


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I am 53 and still going strong.  I take Vit A and Progesterone for flooding.  If I take 50,000 IU of Vit A when I have flooded, within about 3 hours I am down to a light flow.  My mother, a heavy smoker, was done when she was 49.  My sister is going to be 55 this year and no "pause" for her.

My MIL was 59...yes it can go on forever...she is 82, still plays golf and cross country skiis.  I wonder if you are healthy, the later menopause hits???

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Rosa,
Am using "now solutions" natural progesterone cream, just did an amazon search, an 85 g tube that pumps 20mg progesterone. Am also supplementing vitax Angus castus, black cohosh and now bladderwrack for my O' ness.
The Lee book makes loads of suggestions for cream in the back but I had already ordered mine when I read the book.
Can't stress enough how important this book is for every woman no matter what her age.
Am experiencing incredible normalizing of how I feel, will be interesting to see what my next period is like...
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Please forgive me for popping in here, but what is the the latest word on HRT? Wouldn't progesterone cream be one form of this?  Or is there a great difference between natural and synthetic forms?


My wife suffers terribly from flushes and night sweats, and I would do anything to help her. The recommended supplements (Fem Balance, royal jelly, L-tyrosine, and cordyceps mushrooms) for menopause, thyroid and adrenal support have helped the intensity to some degree, but it's still pretty awful.



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Please forgive me for popping in here, but what is the the latest word on HRT? Wouldn't progesterone cream be one form of this?  Or is there a great difference between natural and synthetic forms?


My wife suffers terribly from flushes and night sweats, and I would do anything to help her. The recommended supplements (Fem Balance, royal jelly, L-tyrosine, and cordyceps mushrooms) for menopause, thyroid and adrenal support have helped the intensity to some degree, but it's still pretty awful.  [quote]



I agree - I have tried most everything including dietary changes for the last 4 months losing 34 lbs with NO sugar or junk and following my Swami eating regime almost to the T, and nothing has helped.  I'm going to try this Tranistions Product http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Ess.....enopause   and if that doesn't work, I'm going to look into HRT.  I can't take these any longer.. they are flat out horrid.

And hey Peppermint Twist.. I didn't start my menopause until 53-1/2 and I'm almost 55.  And my personal opinion is that the magazine AARP is really fantastic and so are the benies.  I endorsed it completely at 50 and have enjoyed very informative articles with cover stories on the big stars that are my age.  So I'd look into it.. it's nothing to be ashamed of that's for sure!  A great magazine for people 50 and over.






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Hey BluesSinger, good to see you survived your tour. Welcome back  


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yes with flying colors!  took most of my food with me and my Nutribullet, a two burner stove and a tea water heater.

shopped and got as much organic as I could.. in some part of the NW it was hard..  

but overall on the road I was 90% compliant!  

I had to indulge in the fried okra a couple of times.. i know.. BAAAAADDDDD!!!  

I'm now quite hooked line and sinker on the Nutribullet!  I don't even want to juice anymore...  
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Before going to HRT, try a generous serving of freshly ground flax seeds every day and just see if it helps.  

Isa, natural progestrone (topical) is very different from synthetic progestin.  The one I use is from wild yam.  Some are from soy.  You just have to read the labels to see which one it is.



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