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Crowmagnon
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--NOTE: I am new to this forum an I may have posted this in the wrong place--

I heard about this only six weeks ago and my reaction is "THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!"  I tested myself as O+ and suspect that I am a non secretor based upon factors like poor dental health.  I have been sticking to the foods I am allowed and have noticed marked improvement.  And I cannot tell you how thrilled I am that I have found a diet that encourages me to eat red meat!

Two things in particular that I would like to connect with folks on are: shortness of breath and belly bloat.  These two issues are what have motivated me to seek help and I have thought they were connected.  The more I study the more sure I am that they are some sort of allergic reaction to grains and legumes.

Do you have experience with this to share with me?  I would like to get to know people in this community who have walked this path ahead of me.
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Welcome!

I have fibromyalgia, but I never really noticed GI symptoms from eating the wrong foods. I might get a little gassy when I forget to eat probiotic foods, but that goes away quickly after I manage to "go" and never lasts longer than a day or two. My symptoms are usually more a matter of extreme fatigue, insomnia, and various aches and pains.

But the GI tract is a HUGE part of our health, as some of the newer research is showing. Things as seemingly disconnected as mental health, obesity, and cancer have been linked to gut flora. It's never been a mystery that messed up gut  flora can directly affect GI symptoms such as gas and bloating.

Eating right definitely makes me more energized and in less pain- but I still have lots of ups and downs. My fibromyalgia is managed, not cured, and it's still set off by things like "too much stress." (My older daughter leaving this afternoon, to study abroad for a whole school year, counts as stress, right?)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Welcome Crowmagnon! I can totally relate to your thoughts "This Explains Everything". I felt the same way after reading the basic description of a typical type A (myself) and a typical type O (my husband). My husband, in more recent years before the blood type/genotype diet, was putting on weight from eating the wrong diet high in grains and dairy. He's slowly shedding those pounds now since he got a SWAMI last winter, but more importantly he is much healthier in general with a strong immune system.

Please don't assume, though, that your dental history is a strong indicator of your secretor status. I made that mistake myself. I read an article written by Dr. D with statistics indicating that type A secretors generally have the least amount of dental issues. I not only assumed I was a non-secretor but also entered it into my SWAMI many months before I had the secretor test done. I've had lots of dental problems all my life (cavities, many root canals, receding gums), yet my secretor test came back positive. What a surprise that was initially, but in a way a part of me wasn't surprised because there were a few foods I was eating that would be neutral for a non-secretor that simply didn't agree with me. Then it made sense, that since I do secrete my blood type antigens into my digestive tract that those avoid foods for A secretors would bother me.

There are many people on these forums, like myself, that didn't guess their secretor status correctly, so I'd hate to see you make the same mistake.


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In the specific case of the O nonnie diet, there are only 3 foods that nonnies can have that O secretors can't: avocados,coconut oil, and lentils. It's easy enough to follow the O nonnie diet but exclude those 3 foods until you get your secretor status verified.

With my personalized SWAMI, there were even more foods that shuffled around (particularly some cheeses that I don't seem to tolerate well no matter what) but those are the only 3 if you're following Live Right 4 Your Type, the app, or the online Typebase.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Welcome and have fun.. nothing matters after you decide to eat tyhis way.. All indigestion issues go away.  I had some digestive issues and with a little oil added I am now just fine.. just saying.

The bloat will be a past issue soon enough.. just hang in here and all is well.  How many neutrals do you eat and what kind? and how much are you staying away from avoids?  



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Thanks so much for the warm welcome!  

Adopted4--This secretor status seems to be critical enough to warrant a test so I'll put that on my ToDo list.
Ruthiegirl--Is fibromyalgia an autoimmune disorder that can be cured by diet?

I am still weeding my dietary garden, but I only eat an avoid by mistake.  I am stumped by grains.  If I'm a secretor I can eat spelt and if not I can eat teff.  I love bread more than I can say so this is pretty important to me.

My wife is an A+ so we are working through our menu challenges.  We have two children and want to test them too.  Does SWAMI have a meal planner for multiple types?
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  Does SWAMI have a meal planner for multiple types?


The current release of SWAMI Xpress, includes a meal planer that creates meal plans tailored to the needs of a particular client and not to the client's relatives.

I expect SWAMI XP2 to include a cross reference feature that allows one to print the diet plants of up to four individuals at the same time for easy comparison.

The meal planner for SWAMI XP2has been considerably reworked, but to my knowledge it still is designed to plan meals based on the health needs of one individual and not a group.


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Crowmagnon,

You asked ruthiegirl: "--Is fibromyalgia an autoimmune disorder that can be cured by diet?"

In my case the answer is YES!  The very first prescription medicine I quit taking was the anti depressant I was taking for pain management due to my fibromyalgia.  In a matter a very few weeks I had no more pain to manage!  

One of my acquaintances who is a retired pharmacist told me that my fibromyalgia hadn't been cured -- that it is merely in remission.  HEY, call it any name you want!  As long as I stay completely on the BTD I have NO fibromyalgia issues.  

I'm old, so I do have various other aches and pains from time to time and if I eat something that is an avoid I WILL pay the price.  So, call it a cure or call it remission, the fact is that I feel healthy now and am not totally worn out all the time from dealing with the never ending aches and pains!

If you really follow the diet and emphasize the beneficials you will feel ever so much healthier in every way.    

Hope this information is useful.  


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Two things in particular that I would like to connect with folks on are: shortness of breath and belly bloat.  These two issues are what have motivated me to seek help and I have thought they were connected.  The more I study the more sure I am that they are some sort of allergic reaction to grains and legumes.

Do you have experience with this to share with me?  I would like to get to know people in this community who have walked this path ahead of me.
Welcome!
My experience is that the more "avoids" I eat (wheat & dairy) the worse is my reaction to allergens, such as cats and ragweed.  I now live with four cats and a dog.  This would have been impossible before BTD.  I must be very careful to follow the diet in late summer through to the first good snowfall.  Pollen and then mold are plentiful at that time of year.

Whether the shortness of breath you experience is due to asthma (as mine is) or to some other condition, only you and your doctor can determine.

Wheat, dairy, soy, cabbage and chickpeas are the biggest causes of bloat in me.  In a sense, you might need to redefine what it means to feel full.  For me it used to be the sensation of bloat.  Now, it's a much more subtle lack of hunger because the bloat is not present.

BTW, when I gave up corn, I was delighted to find that many minor joint aches disappeared.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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--NOTE: I am new to this forum an I may have posted this in the wrong place--

I heard about this only six weeks ago and my reaction is "THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!"

~~  That was my exact reaction back in 1997 (!) when I first read ER4YT.  I found myself exclaiming "YESSSSS!  Exactly!" after every few sentences.  Back then, high-carb, high-grain, low-fat, low-meat diets reigned supreme and were thought by all the mainstream "experts" to be THE way for everyone.  That was just about to change, when the Atkins Diet was about to cause shock and awe, but at that time, Dr. D's work was considered quite radical in many ways.
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I tested myself as O+ and suspect that I am a non secretor based upon factors like poor dental health.  I have been sticking to the foods I am allowed and have noticed marked improvement.  And I cannot tell you how thrilled I am that I have found a diet that encourages me to eat red meat!

Yay!  If you are careful about eliminating all wheat, especially (and corn--including corn syrup...and all junky ingredients, but I digress:  wheat, imho, is the main Type O avoid), from your diet, you will be amazed.  Plus, as you point out, the positive--as in what TO eat--is equally important, and yes, beef is your bud!  
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Two things in particular that I would like to connect with folks on are: shortness of breath and belly bloat.  These two issues are what have motivated me to seek help and I have thought they were connected.  The more I study the more sure I am that they are some sort of allergic reaction to grains and legumes.

Wheat is terribly inflamatory to Type O's and, again, just by eliminating that, you are going to be amazed at the wide range of symptoms that clear up on various fronts.  That said, I had struggled and yo-yo'ed back up to a very obese 238 lbs at my heaviest, and I had shortness of breath, which I stoooo-pitly assumed was due to an idiosyncratic, complex-n-complicated, iatrogenic (I love using that word in a sentence--even though I hate the reason for it   ) structural problem I have with my nose.  However, I'm now convinced it was either due to a bad flu or other virus I had in 2006 or 7 that probably went into pneumonia and I never went to a doctor about, and/or to my weight and a weird electrical heart prob I have that I never knew I had at the time but which was diagnosed in my first-ever routine EKG two years later.  EEENYHOOO:  shortness of breath is really scary and, if I had had the presence of mind to even have it dawn on me that it could be a HEART problem and not my weird upper respiratory issues, I would have even been more scared than I was, which was already really scared, especially when it was happening.  There were nights (I was without air-conditioning in Florida at that time, too--never again!  And it was HUMID and BOILING) that I would have to get up, go outside at, like, 3:00 a.m., and walk around the block, gasping for air.  And I remember thinking:  "Should I call 911?  What would I say, I can't breathe?  They'd probably laugh and say, you're talking to us on the phone, clearly you can breathe."  And then I would think, if I don't call, and I die, I'm gonna be REALLY mad at myself!  It was so scary!

The good news is, once I got back into gear (in my case, going onto the GTD at that time, in 200, I not only lost all the weight (I've lost 97 lbs--so far, still going for another few, to take me to an even 100 lbs lost and get to what I feel would be an ideal weight for me), but before that even happened, before the weight loss, pretty much within a few weeks of getting back into really good compliance and also--and this is really important--starting to EXERCISE, walking half an hour per day, the periodic feeling that I could not get a full breath, that I could not get enough air, went away!  I could get enough air again!  So I suggest high compliance on the diet AND exercising DAILY, if possible, and I'm talking aerobic exercise, such as the simple act of walking, which I highly recommend.

Anyway, welcome!  I may not be around for the next few days to a week or so, as I'm getting a new roof, so I may be freaking out, or then again, I may be on here more than usual, as I will be off of work for part of the roofing experience:  anyway, if I don't respond in a timely way to further posts in this thread, don't take it personally.  Glad to have you on board, fellow O!


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P.S.  I second what was said re the fibro:  fibro is a disease that is very responsive to eating right for your blood type, as this diet is profoundly anti-inflamatory to every system in your body.  You are definitely in the right place!


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Welcome, you'll love it here.  The group is very supportive and some of us like PT have been around and following this way of life for a very long time.  I also had that Aha moment in the mid 90s, really sick with ulcerative colitis and recovering from thyroid cancer surgery.  I'm not always as compliant as I could be but I NEVER eat wheat or corn. I slip up on the dairy (eat too much cheese or yogurt).  Just keeping away from processed food and really reading labels has made an enormous difference.

I have had lots of problems with my teeth but my results came back as secretor so you never know unless you are tested.

Enjoy the ride!
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU ALL!

I have to share this...

I was told earlier this year that my shortness of breath was due to a lung capacity of 33%.  Now, after only weeks off of grains and legumes, I was retested today at 77%!!!!  My doctor said to keep it up and he'll test me again in six months.  He said 80-85% was not an unreasonable expectation.

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What a wonderful update!

Fibromyalgia is one of those "mystery illnesses" that's defined by symptoms. I think it has more than one cause, so it has more than one solution. I'm definitely better than I was pre-BTD, but I'm not at 100%. Stress still brings on relapses. I do the best I can with my diet, but I can't control all the chemicals in my environment and I know there's still *something* out of balance with my body. I think mercury toxicity from dental fillings is a part of it, but I don't know if there's something else going on with me as well.

I don't think it's caused by inflammation- at least, anti-inflammatory meds do absolutely nothing for fibro pain, although they do help menstrual cramps, toothaches, and if I have sore muscles from over-exertion. Sore muscles from "I'm tired and my body hurts" isn't affected at all by NSAIDs.


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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU ALL!

I have to share this...

I was told earlier this year that my shortness of breath was due to a lung capacity of 33%.  Now, after only weeks off of grains and legumes, I was retested today at 77%!!!!  My doctor said to keep it up and he'll test me again in six months.  He said 80-85% was not an unreasonable expectation.



Welcome, Nonnie! You can certainly "breathe easy" around here! And please check out the "Nonnie Clubhouse" in the Message Boards for more threads of value to you.


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Hello Cromagnon.  As you probably already guessed, this isn't just a "diet" but a lifestyle.  Dairy and wheat products are everywhere and can be difficult to avoid.  Now I know how vegans feel when they go someplace and everything is laced with some sort of animal product.  So now I practically live off beef, bananas, broccoli, black beans, and brown rice (funny how they all begin with "b").  When I go out to eat I can usually find some sort of meat, veggie, and rice plate, and when I travel I usually get a beef & bean burrito with no cheese and just eat the innards (I throw the tortilla away.)  I also carry bananas and Uni Bars (you can buy these from the ER4YBT website) to snack on wherever I go.  You'll learn these little tricks to get by.  I've experienced real benefits from this diet, but I've found it difficult to convince my husband who's an A blood type.  He loves meat but then complains about his health and weight.  He told me that I can't "just eat beef", that I need to eat other things, so I agreed with him and said that I will add buffalo to my diet (begins with a "b" too!).  I thought it was hilarious but he wasn't too amused.  


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I noticed that a lot of the foods I used to eat but no longer do (since starting BTD) begin with a C: coffee, corn, cashews, coconuts, cauliflower, and cucumbers! All of those were a regular part of my diet when I was eating low carb (the corn in very small quantities, but still there.)


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Crowmagnon,

try this test to target your plan

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

tell us if there is bacterial overgrowth you need to address first


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I'm not always as compliant as I could be but I NEVER eat wheat or corn. I slip up on the dairy (eat too much cheese or yogurt).

That's kinda how I am, too:  not always compliant on everything, but I NEVER eat wheat or corn.  I'm with you on the dairy, too, as I do use plain, non-fat yogurt (oddly, as much as I like FULL FAT versions of most things, I actually vastly prefer the non-fat yogurt, especially for sauces and dressings.  I will add a dash [or two!] of olive or sesame oil, or organic mayo, yet I prefer the yogurt itself to be non-fat) and various cheeses (cheddar, cottage, feta).  My main thaaangs are NO wheat, NO corn, NO junky ingredients of any kind, NO GMOs, only eat grains in one meal per day, and do try to emphasize superfoods/beneficials, and DO get enough protein every day, almost always in every meal.  

Oh, and DO get enough "chi"--foods with LIFE energy in them, such as salads, greens used in other ways, fruit (I'm deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep in my watermelon phrase of the year right now).


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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU ALL!

I have to share this...

I was told earlier this year that my shortness of breath was due to a lung capacity of 33%.  Now, after only weeks off of grains and legumes, I was retested today at 77%!!!!

Fantabulous!



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