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HamedSayyadi
Sunday, August 18, 2013, 11:46am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I want to know why Dr Dadamo considers "ice cream" unhealthy for all blood types.
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I don't know but it's an interesting question.  

Is it to do with the temperature I wonder? I have heard (not here) some say really cold/hot foods or drinks aren't good and I'm not too good with either.
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I want to know why Dr Dadamo considers "ice cream" unhealthy for all blood types.
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Because various ingredients are considered unhealthy for each of the blood types.

If you were to make an ice cream out of compliant ingredients for your blood type it would be fine.
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My guess is because one serving (half cup- and who eats only half a cup?) contains more sugar than anybody should have in one day.

I occasionally buy ice cream (with a very "clean" ingredient list) and let my kids have it for a treat. If the ingredients are "milk, cream, sugar, egg yolks, and vanilla" (with or without cocoa powder) then it would be perfectly fine for B secretors.


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so far sherbets are ok without any sugar only fruits ....

ooohh ruthiegirly you make me feel wanna be a B sechi ...


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ooohh ruthiegirly you make me feel wanna be a B sechi ...

It *is* one of the many benefits   .



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Dr D. never said we should not have Icecream.  He is only telling us what is good or better for us.

I have a hard time with icecream, with cream in the first place, sugar in the second, and self indulgence in the biggest place.  

The way I make sure I don't eat the whole gallon is to never buy one. Not a pint either.  I go to the store and I buy 1 small come and ask for a baby size icecream... In that way I am serving all my bosses, the indulging one, the once in awhile one, the inner size one and the 80/20% rule one.

Icecream is one item that does not seem to bother me health wise.  Bread by comparison does in a big way.  Making some of our own icecream might be fun.  Could we start here with blueberries, or lime juice?


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Dr D. never said we should not have Icecream.  He is only telling us what is good or better for us.

I have a hard time with icecream, with cream in the first place, sugar in the second, and self indulgence in the biggest place.  

The way I make sure I don't eat the whole gallon is to never buy one. Not a pint either.  I go to the store and I buy 1 small come and ask for a baby size icecream... In that way I am serving all my bosses, the indulging one, the once in awhile one, the inner size one and the 80/20% rule one.


Just to clarify, for the sake of any newcomers who need to know what Dr. D'Adamo said about 80/20%:

"What is compliance?
• If you are recovering from an illness or desire weight loss, then 80%-100% of your food choices should be highly beneficial.
• If you are a healthy individual over the age of 55, 80% of foods should be beneficial.
• If you are under 55 and healthy, 70% or more of your food choices should beneficial.
• The remainder of your food choices should be neutral. Avoids should not be eaten.


In other words, the 70% to 100% means Beneficials.
The 20% to 30% could be Neutrals.
Avoids are not recommended at any percent.

And it's a personal matter how much a person chooses to follow Dr. D's recommendations.  



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Is it to do with the temperature I wonder? I have heard (not here) some say really cold/hot foods or drinks aren't good and I'm not too good with either.

I don't know, but it figures.

I was told that cold foods do not support the liver (the liver dislikes cold foods).

It was a reply to my question why Dr. D recommends the lemon water in the morning to be warm.

In this respect, this post is also to remind myself to avoid any cold delights, like cold watermelon or cold mango smoothie  



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I don't like my mealtime liquids to be cold. Anyway, it would impede digestion of the food it accompanies.

As for snacks of cold watermelon, as yaeli says, as well as ice cream, as long as these are not being guzzled (as one might an ice cold beverage, perhaps?) these can be refreshing when one is overheated;  when these small bites arrive in the stomach after their little trip through mouth, pharynx and esophagus, they are no longer the temperature they were in the fridge or freezer.
When ice cream is on a cone, for instance, and is imbibed by licking, it's the tongue that takes the brunt of the low temperature. By the time the food arrives at the gastric lining, it is either body-temp or darned-near close.

We can feel coldness in our stomach when food is way too cold - it's why most don't gulp down a milkshake.

There are foods that should be brought to room temperature (for instance, in order to process them for preparation), but that's not the case with all of them.

There is something to be said for comfort/discomfort.
We are created with this wonderful innate non-verbal language. When something's hot, we recoil. When it's too cold, likewise.

So - for those who avoid a neutral food because it is cold in the stomach, you don't have to bring it to room temperature before eating it; you can simply eat it in smaller bites and trust the organism to do its job.


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I've just make 2 types of ice cream - 1st with home made yogurt from milk from pastured cows, more strawberries and less blackberries from our garden and several tbsp of pure honey, and 2nd with 280ml whole milk from domestic pastured cows, 1 little chicken egg yolk, strawberries and blackberries - a handful, and a couple of tbsp honey. Both doses become 400ml each. And I put them in freezer 2 and a half hours ago and don't have patience to have them frozen
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I've just make 2 types of ice cream - 1st with home made yogurt from milk from pastured cows, more strawberries and less blackberries from our garden and several tbsp of pure honey, and 2nd with 280ml whole milk from domestic pastured cows, 1 little chicken egg yolk, strawberries and blackberries - a handful, and a couple of tbsp honey. Both doses become 400ml each. And I put them in freezer 2 and a half hours ago and don't have patience to have them frozen


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my friend made this for dessert for us a couple days ago:
frozen mango chunks
bit of almond milk
tsp of stevia (go easy)
scant tsp of vanilla

in blender.......yummmy
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for those who avoid a neutral food because it is cold in the stomach, you don't have to bring it to room temperature before eating it; you can simply eat it in smaller bites and trust the organism to do its job.
The most sensitive organ in the temperature issue would be the liver. Wouldn't want to provoke it.

Wouldn't underestimate the swiftness of signalling within the nervous system either. Faster than I-5.


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The most sensitive organ in the temperature issue would be the liver. Wouldn't want to provoke it.

Wouldn't underestimate the swiftness of signalling within the nervous system either. Faster than I-5.

You're worried that the temperature of the melted ice cream on the tongue is no good?
Then, I suppose, people here worry about exact temps of ocean/pool/lake swim water, too?
I guess I have other stresses in life - that one just doesn't seem it should drive my behavior.

This from Peter D'Adamo:

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Finally, there is the question of whether making things ‘easy’ for the body really serves our best long term interests. Many of the physiologic functions of the body are hormetic; they benefit from challenge and mild stress. Like exercise, they require challenge in order to induce a more robust response. On the other hand, over anticipating the needs of a complex system can actually increase its dependence and fragility.



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Pre BTD we used to eat big bowls of triple chocolate ice cream almost every night.  Gads zooks!  After no ice cream for a couple years I bought a Vita Mix machine and here is their recipe for "ice cream" -- Don't know if other blenders would be powerful enough to do this or not.

1 cup organic yogurt (we use goat yogurt but used to use Nancy's organic yogurt which is very thick and creamy)
3 cups any frozen fruit

Blend - you need to use the Vita Mix tamper to squash down the fruit - until it forms 4 mounds with an indentation in the middle.

Serve immediately.  Serves 4 if you are polite.  The two of us eat it all and call it supper.....

Sometimes I use one fruit, like blueberries.  Sometimes I use raspberries and add organic raw cocoa powder and that is heavenly.  Haven't tried peaches yet but think it would be great.  Or you can use mixed frozen fruit - whatever sounds good.  


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Do you save all your summer fruits in the freezer?


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You're worried that the temperature of the melted ice cream on the tongue is no good?
Not at all, I avoid it.

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Then, I suppose, people here worry about exact temps of ocean/pool/lake swim water, too?
Some jump in once in Summer and catch pneumonia, some swim every morning at 06:00 throughout Winter and get healthier.

All of us are not made alike.


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Do you save all your summer fruits in the freezer?


Where I live there are virtually no fresh organic fruits available and the few which appear often are ancient by the time they get to the market, so when frozen organic fruit is on sale I buy it by the case.  Even the farms in our area which are "u pick" places use tons of pesticides.

We live in a condo so cannot have our own garden, and with advanced age neither of us is up to doing serious gardening anymore.  But, yes, when I was younger (35 or more years ago) I did have a very large garden and a freezer full of my own healthy, home frozen fruit for the long cold winters.  

When I do find organic fruit that looks decent and is not priced over $2 for each piece I buy it but there is never enough to freeze.  Last month we had fresh strawberries and red grapes.  Last year we had a couple delicious pears.  

I know that there is some nutrient loss in commercially frozen fruit and veggies but what remains is far healthier than eating several servings of pesticides each day.  We each do the best we can with what we have available (and that includes balancing nutrition and the money in our pockets.....)







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I sometimes make my own frozen yoghurt, which is ridiculously easy (Thanks Jamie Oliver) and compliant for Explorers.

Not sure about proportions but I think it's 500 g of yoghurt and as much of frozen fruit (mangos, berries, whatever you like) and some honey.

Throw everything in a blender (fruit still frozen) and either enjoy straight away or freeze in small containers.

Yum!
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My beef with ice cream is that it is so sweet.
I don't have an ice cream maker, but if I did I'd be making ice creams that are more subtly sweet than most of what's out there...


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sanj, I add cocoa powder or carob powder and almond butter to cut the sweetness.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Anyone try frozen Greek yogurt?


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[color=purple][/color] I should have read this first before I purchased.  My ice cream bad bad won't eat in large amounts.  Slap upside the head
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sanj, I add cocoa powder or carob powder and almond butter to cut the sweetness.


a couple of nights ago I added diced jalepeno to mint cc ice cream....


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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a couple of nights ago I added diced jalepeno to mint cc ice cream....

Is it tofu or something?



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Is what tofu?


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I have made a protein shake with soy milk, kefir, fruit, maple syrup, and Dr. D's protein powder, and stuck it in the freezer, taking it out occasionally to stir it up.  Made a decent frozen concoction that resembled ice cream.
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[color=purple][/color] I should have read this first before I purchased.  My ice cream bad bad won't eat in large amounts.  Slap upside the head


No need to slap yourself. You're still learning a new way to eat, and it's normal to make mistakes whenever you start something new.

You have a few options with the ice cream:

1) Give it away to a friend (or an enemy ).

2) Invite friends over and eat it with them- you still eat some, but it's gone faster.

3) Eat it in very small portions over time- you eat less at a time, but it remains part of your diet longer.

4) Throw it out. I personally don't like that option- I hate throwing away food when I know there are people who don't have enough to eat.


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a couple of nights ago I added diced jalapeno to mint cc ice cream...
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Is it tofu or something?
Is what tofu?

The "ice cream"...I guess not. Thought maybe you made your own mint chocolate chip tofu ice cream, (tofu being Neutral for O secretors)... Now, that would be amazing!  
I like mint chocolate chip - and all know I love jalapeños - just not sure I'd want them together, but you never know.  



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The ice cream is dairy; the only soy possibly coming from lecithin.  I suppose my being an O and eating ice cream is confusing to all the amazing fully compliant folks here....  


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Oh but the mint / jalepeno might be the base for a rad salsa!  hmmm


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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The ice cream is dairy; the only soy possibly coming from lecithin.  I suppose my being an O and eating ice cream is confusing to all the amazing fully compliant folks here....  Oh but the mint / jalepeno might be the base for a rad salsa!  hmmm

I don't think your eating ice cream is confusing.
I was wondering if we had a frozen-tofu-meister here amongst our many incredibly resourceful O cooks.
Mint/chile pepper   is a very commonly found combination. Most Indian/Pakistani restaurants, for instance, serve a "mint chutney" condiment with tandoori meats and savory appetizers: It contains, usually, from a small to a large amount of chiles. Southeast Asia, also, is known for the combination.
With chocolate, however? You're an original, methinks!
You should go on Chopped!  



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To ruthiegirl. I ate what I had then the rest I gave too neighbour. There are no icecream available without preservatives.
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There are no icecream available without preservatives.

In Winnipeg, maybe.
Here in the US, we have Haagen-Dazs. I think they still make some preservative-free ice creams.
I mention them because it's at least a national brand here, and I wouldn't be surprised if you can find it in Saskatchewan.
Here in California, of course, there are a number of other brands.



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