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kescah
Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 1:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Lola,

Back in about 2009, you said "Right" when someone asked about whether a Dr. D comment about agave not feeding bacteria also applied to candida. http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GC/m-1259371578/s-25/

I am wondering if that thought is certain, or if it is updated, -what is the current thought?

I have so few foods, and hope I can eat agave.

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Agave is a source of fructose (as are blueberries) but the main reason it is generally considered a 'neutral' as compared to other sweeteners is that it seems to produce almost no bacteria overgrowth (as opposed to hfcs, which does) and does not provoke major immune/ gut related reactions, which hfcs also does (probably because it is corn derived



stick to your frequency values and you ll be fine

how does your swami report rate agave, given your health history and genotype


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For me, agave syrup is a neutral.

Still, is the store-bought stuff what it is talking about?

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Yes, he's talking about the store-bought stuff. SWAMI doesn't specify "raw" or "light" vs "dark" so I assume that all the various varieties share the same rating in SWAMI/BTD/GTD, even though they all taste a little different.

Portion sizes are key; most people only get a teaspoon or two of sweetener for the entire day.


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That's all I need--just enough to take the edge off my kefir. But with serious candida, I have to wonder. Should I even be drinking kefir- a yeast product? With added agave sweetner? Both are only neutrals for me. Does candida mean I should a) avoid the yeast product and sweetner or b) use the (same food) probiotic?

Everything is so complicated. All the work I am doing to get well- am I undoing it with this? Or helping.

And I got my scabies back. I'm ready to .... erk!


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That's all I need--just enough to take the edge off my kefir. But with serious candida, I have to wonder. Should I even be drinking kefir- a yeast product? With added agave sweetner? Both are only neutrals for me. Does candida mean I should a) avoid the yeast product and sweetner or b) use the (same food) probiotic?

Everything is so complicated. All the work I am doing to get well- am I undoing it with this? Or helping.

And I got my scabies back. I'm ready to .... erk!


Do you have any other sweetner you can use beside a Neutral, Kescah?  Since the serving size is so small (1 t. per day), I would think you would be better off consuming a Beneficial or super Diamond sweetner.  The same for Kifer?

Neutrals do not help you regain health according to Dr. D's. writings in his Arthritis book and I would think that general principle would apply to any health area.

I was full of candida when I first started this journey into wellness.  Before Dr. D's. first book hit my naturapathic's health food store, she put me on a 3-week fast of NO SUGAR and only 1 fruit per day.  (I begged her to allow me 2 fruits since I usually ate 5 per day!)  She conceded to my request.

I must be honest, it was not easy.  But by the 3rd week, the crisis point (week 2) was over, I was really enjoying my oatmeal with only sea salt, butter and a little apple juice.  The sugar cravings were gone, my energy level was WAY up and my clothes were fitting so much more comfortably.

Afterwards my naturopath said I could ease back into eating some sugar but, of course, to try not to overdo as I had previously.  Shortly thereafter, she found and stocked Eat Right 4 Your Type and went on the diet herself!  She is an 'O' and was always rather 'dumpy'.  When I next saw her, she was slimmer and radient.  She had immediately began to incorporate the diet into all of her patients perscriptions.

Sorry to have gone on so long.  It was just a happy memory for me to recount.  


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I do have a diamond sweetner, barley malt, but agave is the only sweetner I've heard of that doesn't feed candida. I don't know. Maybe I could try stepping it up a bit sugar-wise. Though agave doesn't feed candida, so in that sense, it seems safer. I do still have psoriasis on my wrists (though that is nothing compared to what I had).

I am amazed that you were able to get rid of candida eating two fruits a day. I've been off sweetners, fruit and grains for much longer and still have psoriasis. Maybe the candida is gone- how do you tell? Maybe it is just that my blood stream is not yet cleansed as it should be. I do have a congested liver. (I normally do a yearly liver flush, but this time I have a stone that blocks the bile duct and my liver won't flush!)

Maybe I will add a few things back into my diet that are a little sweeter. It's blackberry season here... that's a diamond and not too sweet. I can see what happens.

Thanks for the thought, and I'm glad it was a happy memory for you.


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Kefir isn't just yeast- it contains a variety of bacteria and yeasts in a healthy mix. The idea of probiotic foods is to "crowd out" the unhealthy gut flora. And really, it's not about "healthy" versus "unhealthy" flora; it's about having all the flora in the right balance. Candida is supposed to be part of the gut flora- it's only problematic when there's a candida OVERGROWTH- meaning there's too much candida and not enough of the other germs.


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Thanks Ruthie,

It's just that my candida is so hard to be rid of- the fungal variety. I've not had the money lately for the protocol items; spent it all on fighting scabies to no avail. Right now it seems like any effort is futile. I have managed to get my psoriasis down to my wrists only, but I tested out whether I could tolerate lentils, the slowest processing carb, and the psoriasis spread. I've been under a lot of stress, though, with the scabies.


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