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D.L.
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Anyone else have a problem eating quinoa? I made some for breakfast and immediately got a runny nose after just eating a couple of spoonfuls. After eating more, I got congestion and an earache. Now I have all that plus phlem in my throat and a sinus headache. And my heart is beating too fast. This was the traditional quinoa. Same thing happened a year ago when I tried the red version. I am apparently allergic to all grains, including those containing gluten. Quinoa is gluten-free. Now I have to suffer all day because  I can't take allergy meds. Great. I'll take some vitamin C and a couple other supplements, though, which will help some.
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Do you have quercetin in the house?  Has anti histamine properties.  Either your quinoa was cross
contaminated, processed in a facility that processes other items you're allergic to or as an Explorer if you've had this type of reaction with red quinoa before, it's likely you're truly allergic
to all types of quinoa.

See if there is anything else in the allergy protocol for type A that would work for you.  Maybe try bromelain

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/1.html


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Thanks, Chloe. Yes, I think I have some quercetin up in my cabinet. I'll try that right now. I have these reactions with every kind of grain. I thought maybe I could tolerate the quinoa, but I guess not. Not wheat, rye, barley, oats (even the non-gluten kind). I can't digest rice, even though I don't get those same symptoms. Corn seems to be OK, though I worry about GM foods.
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D.L.
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Thanks again, Chloe.I took some quercetin, along with 500 mg vitamin C, and it really helped. I still feel a little funny, but not like before.
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What did you have with the quinoa, Milk of some kind?

I would suggest that you try soaking the quinoa overnight if you don't already and rinsing it to within a inch of it's life, personally i then sprout it for a day before cooking it .

also remember that food can affect you may hours late then when you eat it, delayed reactions are very common, especially for dairy and wheat.

My daughter has a five hour delay with both of them. she also is much more tolerant after a break and some serious work on the rest of her diet.


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive

...also remember that food can affect you may hours late then when you eat it, delayed reactions are very common, especially for dairy and wheat.



PC, are you suggesting that the culprit may have been something other than the quinoa? It may be possible, I think. My wife and I are on completely different schedules where reacting to questionable food is concerned. Like 1 hour vs 24 hours.


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I've gotten quinoa (mixed types in WF) a few times.  Sometimes I can eat it and I'm just fine.  It is a beneficial and I know it has a lot of protein and fiber.  

But there are a few times, like tonight, when I made a small quantity to have with broccoli and kale chips that after one spoonful it got stuck in my throat.  It did not want to get digested.  

I don't know what it is.  I'm hungry and as soon as I start to eat the quinoa won't get digested.  Tonight was unpleasant but I felt much better afterwards and could eat the rest of my meal.  I feel fine now.

I intend to lay off quinoa - maybe for good.  

It felt so strange because there are times when I can eat it and I have no problem.

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Quoted from Joy
I've gotten quinoa (mixed types in WF) a few times.  Sometimes I can eat it and I'm just fine.  It is a beneficial and I know it has a lot of protein and fiber.  

But there are a few times, like tonight, when I made a small quantity to have with broccoli and kale chips that after one spoonful it got stuck in my throat.  It did not want to get digested.  

I don't know what it is.

I'm the same with many foods...  There are times when the body just doesn't want a specific food.  Sometimes I'll avoid a specific food for several months, then I'll need to eat it several meals in a short period...  Go with the flow and enjoy it!


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ABJoe,

I guess that is the way I will treat quinoa in the future.  If my body craves the fiber I will try it again.  

But after tonight I think not for quite a while.  

It's funny how even beneficial food can affect the body.

The body is wise; this I'm learning all the time and the brain sometimes can "just take a hike!".

Joy
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I tolerate quinoa in the winter, but I find it irritating during the summer.

But, look at this....quinoa is on a list of warming foods!  If it's warm outside and your body is
warm enough, you might not require a lot of warming foods.

http://www.raw-foods-diet-center.com/warming-foods.html

Everything in balance!


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Well, it's certainly "Hot" here in Florida in August.  And, in addition before I came home to make dinner I was doing something that I promised to do for people I like but did not enjoy doing the task.

Joy

Off quinoa indefinitely!
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Quoted from D.L.
Anyone else have a problem eating quinoa? I made some for breakfast and immediately got a runny nose after just eating a couple of spoonfuls. After eating more, I got congestion and an earache. Now I have all that plus phlem in my throat and a sinus headache. And my heart is beating too fast. This was the traditional quinoa. Same thing happened a year ago when I tried the red version. I am apparently allergic to all grains, including those containing gluten. Quinoa is gluten-free. Now I have to suffer all day because  I can't take allergy meds. Great. I'll take some vitamin C and a couple other supplements, though, which will help some.


I love it and eat it daily. I will say I had to adjust to it though - being on the LR4YT diet for so long...
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Quoted from ABJoe

I'm the same with many foods...  There are times when the body just doesn't want a specific food.  Sometimes I'll avoid a specific food for several months, then I'll need to eat it several meals in a short period...  Go with the flow and enjoy it!


This is a familiar dynamic in my eating habits as well. Some foods I can eat fairly regularly, others are a passing fad, some are seasonal. The passing fads I've always thought were a message about a deficiency. Or at the very least, a flavor "itch" that once scratched, seems completely satisfied or can re-emerge later to become more of a regular. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's not just about taste or food interest.

A few things come to mind about the quinoa. It's reportedly become more scarce, and the quality may have declined. Could it need extra rinsing before cooking? Or perhaps the suppliers and packagers have compromised the purity with fungicides and such that our bodies might react to in subtle ways. Also, I read somewhere that black or white quinoa is OK, but not brown. Something about the maturity of the plant at harvest time?
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Quoted from Averno
The passing fads I've always thought were a message about a deficiency. Or at the very least, a flavor "itch" that once scratched, seems completely satisfied or can re-emerge later to become more of a regular. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's not just about taste or food interest.



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Or perhaps the suppliers and packagers have compromised the purity with fungicides and such that our bodies might react to in subtle ways.
They would be nuts then
I can only hope organic producers don't do this


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Quoted from yaeli

They would be nuts then
I can only hope organic producers don't do this


Yeah  

The problem is that it's sourced in far away Peru and Bolivia, where shipping, processing and handling is largely unregulated.

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Lin
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I have noticed I am sometimes okay with quinoa and other times not.  Found there has been studies on quinoa and they recommend you find out the cultivar if you have gluten issues:

http://glutendoctors.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-quinoa-always-gluten-free.html

An excerpt:
Of the 15 quinoa cultivars tested, 4 had measurable concentrations of toxic epitopes, but they were below the maximum permitted for a gluten-free food. In other words, the 20 parts per million (ppm) threshold of gluten that by definition allows a food to be deemed ‘gluten-free’, was not exceeded.
However, two cultivars, Ayacuchana and Pasankalla, did stimulate the immune system to react in a way that is comparable to a gluten-containing food.


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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Quoted from Lin
I have noticed I am sometimes okay with quinoa and other times not.  Found there has been studies on quinoa and they recommend you find out the cultivar if you have gluten issues:

http://glutendoctors.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-quinoa-always-gluten-free.html

An excerpt:
Of the 15 quinoa cultivars tested, 4 had measurable concentrations of toxic epitopes, but they were below the maximum permitted for a gluten-free food. In other words, the 20 parts per million (ppm) threshold of gluten that by definition allows a food to be deemed ‘gluten-free’, was not exceeded.
However, two cultivars, Ayacuchana and Pasankalla, did stimulate the immune system to react in a way that is comparable to a gluten-containing food.



wow, i didn't have any idea about that before your post!!!
i found this one too
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22760575



lactose -gluten-soy intolerant
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Lin
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Santina, Yes amazing isn't it.  I read the link you added.  I was thinking of doing a new thread to highlight this to the gluten free community, just have to figure out how to start a new threa.
Lin


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