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yaeli
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My education included drinking coffee not as food, but as a cultural and social ritual. Preparing coffee had for me a halo of sanctity. At home we had a beautiful white china coffee pot with bundles of violets printed on it. We didn't keep a coffee machine. Hot nearly boiling water was poured over thick ground coffee beans, and the pot was placed on a simmering kettle to brew for 20 mins. The resulting taste was an embodiment of perfection. I continued to revere coffee drinking after this fashion until the age of nearly 58 and a half.

During many years I used to have every morning at work 1 espresso longo from the coffee cart.

4 months after beginning BTD I caught myself towards the end of one weekend - June 30th & July 1st - and realized that 2 days had passed w/o coffee, and no catastrophe either! I told myself: Yaeli, it's now instead of yesterday. Since that moment coffee have been discarded for good.

Yes, there were some most difficult times since then when I was in dire straits, and I did 'succeed' to have 3 or 4 times half a cup of "mud coffee" (pour boiling water on fine ground coffee in a glass, stir and drink). It was impossible to go beyond half a cup. I make here a note of this, to emphasize that I don't consider these few incidents falling off the wagon.

So, 7 years times more or less 365 days a year, this makes 2,555 days of deep gratitude to you, Dr. D.



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wow great Yaelishatzala... I went off since 2006 in fall


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wow great Yaelishatzala... I went off since 2006 in fall
I remember it well dearle!!!  



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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Congratulations Yaeli.

Coffee was an addiction for me, for all the reasons you've mentioned, plus the dire consequences of withdrawal due to an increasing tolerance to the caffein over the years. True substance abuse. I weaned myself off for a period of years, to the point where the caffein was merely irritating me. I've been totally free of it only about three years.

To this day, the aroma alone signals all the warm feelings associated with the ritual, and that alone seems to suffice. No desire to imbibe.

    
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please stop here dearest Averno....I'll crave nighmares then .... btw my last experience once here was that I said yes when my coiffeuse asked me... long times ago and a superbe panic attac was the following... I'm not sure if this is due to coffeinsensitivity or merely the
form how café indeed is produced... meant here is the effects of roasting the product ...


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please stop here dearest Averno....I'll crave nighmares then .... btw my last experience once here was that I said yes when my coiffeuse asked me... long times ago and a superbe panic attac was the following... I'm not sure if this is due to coffeinsensitivity or merely the
form how café indeed is produced... meant here is the effects of raosting the product ...


No worries Isa, merely habit... not ritual.   

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What is the reason quitting coffee?
Is it an avoid or black dot or coffee's addictive nature?

Many health book recommends no coffee but you hear new study saying the health benefits.
It is a diamond for me but I always wonder.
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That's a major accomplishment, Yaeli.  Congratulations!  



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What is the reason quitting coffee?
Is it an avoid or black dot or coffee's addictive nature?

Many health book recommends no coffee but you hear new study saying the health benefits.
It is a diamond for me but I always wonder.


The problem with so many studies is that they are industry financed, and assume the human population to be an amalgam of one average.

Anything can be habit forming to an individual. It's the caffein that has addictive properties. Personally, I don't think caffein in moderation is so bad, but we should be free of the rut of habits.

  
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Quoted from Averno

The problem with so many studies is that they are industry financed, and assume the human population to be an amalgam of one average.

Anything can be habit forming to an individual. It's the caffein that has addictive properties. Personally, I don't think caffein in moderation is so bad, but we should be free of the rut of habits.


When Dr. D lists coffee as avoid, it's because of the nature of coffee, not because it contains caffeine.



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What is the reason quitting coffee?
Is it an avoid or black dot or coffee's addictive nature?


Yes, it was always an avoid for O.  

It also gave me an unsettled feeling and caused me heart palpitations. I never knew exactly what it was doing to my systems, how bad it attected my nervous system, etc., but it was clear it had an unwelcome effect on me.


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Coffee is diamond for me and I enjoy my morning coffee.
But almost all the health book recommends against coffee and it makes me wonder.
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Coffee is diamond for me and I enjoy my morning coffee.
But almost all the health book recommends against coffee and it makes me wonder.
You've may read this lots of times before: todate almost all health books still stick to the same old 'one size fits all' channel of 'thinking'. Recommending against coffee, the people they wish to do good with are blood types O, AB , and non-secretors B, and people with caffeine sensitivity, but for some reason this awareness hasn't reached them yet!!! The only remedy in this case is I guess patience. Time will come.

Like Andy Dufresne wrote to Red: Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things.

Given that you have reached BTD/GTD/SWAMI, you can allow yourself not to be bothered anymore by the 'one size fits all' method. It doesn't seem to hold water.



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well done girl.

I have been off it for several years now and to be honest I don't miss it, thanks i imagine to my new found fondness for Green tea.

My Partner still sneaks a cup every now and again. But since i have stopped completely i think i am over the addiction period, so don't miss it.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
DD ( is O+(Non)NN, Duffy Fy(a+b-) Lewis (a+b-) Gatherer
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When Dr. D lists coffee as avoid, it's because of the nature of coffee, not because it contains caffeine.


Not in the SWAMI.  If you check caffeine sensitivity, then he makes it an avoid.  I had coffee yesterday morning for the first time in months.  Slept like a baby last night.  Caffeine sensitivity is the whole reason I drink it.   To wake up and smell the coffee, and get my day going.  The same for green tea, a diamond on my SWAMI.  So long as I stick to one cup of coffee made from 1 tablespoon of grounds in my press pot, I'm doing a-ok.  The classic caffeine sensitivity test everyone around here recommends is the "before bed test".  Well, if I were to drink it before bed, then yes, I'd not get to sleep.  But, who in their right mind would do that anyway?  With caffeine sensitivity left unchecked on my SWAMI, it is a superfood, so I'm going to continue drinking it in a limited amount first thing in the morning.
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Thanks for all your replies on coffee.

This is the first time I appreciate being a Type A Teacher.
Type A is most prone to cancer.
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Victoria, Adam, I would think it's either reason, No?

Which or whatever, I would trust the SWAMI recommendation.
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sunnyside... perhaps might you want to reveal your agreements... A's aren't mostly proned to cancer but AB's are... but merely of their psyche patterns.. I think and observed!(watch out into several dif. D'Adamo's scripts)...it in my own observations
of my clients.... but ok we are almost  all europeans..

and sorry I still think it's about the roasting effects....
but AB's with +- explorer tendencies seem to have more coffeine sensitivities as A might have ...; but this due to adrenal fatigue


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The same food item can be classified as avoid for different reasons for different bloodtype/genotypes.  Coffee may be avoid for a type B non-secretor or a type O who is not caffeine intolerant, but coffee is avoid, just the same.



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Quoted from sunnyside
Coffee is diamond for me and I enjoy my morning coffee.
But almost all the health book recommends against coffee and it makes me wonder.


You're an A. Coffee is good for you. Yaeli and I are Os. Coffee is bad for us.

Most health books out there don't distinguish between different types. They make lists of "good foods" and "bad foods" that apply to absolutely everybody. These diets tend to work great for some and horribly for others.

There are some new studies I've read about on Facebook that call coffee a super-healing food. That is true for some, and always has been. However, coffee is an "avoid" for me and I won't drink it.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I thought Type A is most cancer prone.
I am going to read Dr D book again.

My mother passed away from leukemia and I have pancreas cystic tumor.
It is benign now but I may need surgery.

I am prediabetic and controlling it very well with diet and exercise without any medication last 4 years.
Other than that I am very active playing tennis and swim everyday.
So I thought I am healthy.
I am 70 this week.

Coffee is a diamond but I was wondering on that.

I decided to keep the coffee now because I gave up many other things already.
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Quoted from sunnyside
I thought Type A is most cancer prone.
I am going to read Dr D book again.

My mother passed away from leukemia and I have pancreas cystic tumor.
It is benign now but I may need surgery.

I am prediabetic and controlling it very well with diet and exercise without any medication last 4 years.
Other than that I am very active playing tennis and swim everyday.
So I thought I am healthy.
I am 70 this week.

Coffee is a diamond but I was wondering on that.

I decided to keep the coffee now because I gave up many other things already.

I think organic coffee is a great idea for those who have it on their food list.  Also, keep in moderation.  And if you add things to it, be sure that they are good for you.  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
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