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loertling
Friday, May 24, 2013, 7:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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What would be the significance of following the BTD as opposed to the GTD, or vice versa?

Also,I am B positive and am taking the Multivitamin for all BT's. I've ordered the ones for my blood type and I've noticed there is a difference in vitamins and minerals each contain. Would there be any benefit in taking both?

Thank you for your insight.
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Lloyd
Friday, May 24, 2013, 8:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Welcome!

I would finish what you have and then switch to the blood type vitamins.
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loertling
Friday, May 24, 2013, 8:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thank you, Lloyd.
Could you tell me what the difference, if any, would be in following the BTD or discovering your genotype and following that diet?

Thank you again.
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Lloyd
Friday, May 24, 2013, 8:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Sure.

The BTD came first and focuses on inflammation and lectins (among other things).

The GTD was developed later and uses many things from BTD but focuses on epigenetics.

SWAMI is a personalized diet that combines attributes from both specifically for you.

There are advantages for BTD or GTD for different people if you are not going to do SWAMI.
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Friday, May 24, 2013, 9:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Lloyd
Sure.

The BTD came first and focuses on inflammation and lectins (among other things).

The GTD was developed later and uses many things from BTD but focuses on epigenetics.

SWAMI is a personalized diet that combines attributes from both specifically for you.

There are advantages for BTD or GTD for different people if you are not going to do SWAMI.

  Wow!  What a succinct and yet very complete and clear answer!  


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Friday, May 24, 2013, 11:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Would there be any benefit in taking both?



I sometimes take Exakta and sometimes take the blood type multivitamin. I balance what I think my need is with the difference in content of the two formula's, but do not worry which I take.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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C_Sharp
Friday, May 24, 2013, 11:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If you are trying to decide between BTD and GenoType, I use this little quiz to do that: http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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RedLilac
Saturday, May 25, 2013, 12:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Sometimes it is easier to just start with the BTD because all you need to know is your blood type.  Then when you’re ready to spend the extra money, buy the GTD book and the test kit and/or Swami.  


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The analogy I like to use is:
BTD is for your new car. With proper care and maintainance it will run nicely and stay in great condition.

GTD is for the car you've had for several years. It's still a good car, but has some wear, a few problems and driver-specific idiosyncrasies. It needs some repairs and better attention to maintainance.

SWAMI is for the classic that needs extra TLC to keep it looking great and purring like a kitten


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In theory, BTD "works with the genes you have" and GTD "helps improve your  genes."

In reality, some people far much better with BTD, some fare much better with GTD, and some do well on either one. I personally did HORRIBLY on GTD. I stuck it out for 2 months, miserable the whole time. The inclusion of GTD cheeses reduced my overall health. The omission of "BTD neutral root veggies" made me feel hungry and unsatisfied. I couldn't include too many "beneficial" foods because they were not available or simply too expensive for me to buy. The Gatherer Diet was just a very poor fit for me.

I switched to SWAMI after my 2 month experiment with "by the book" Gatherer diet, and am doing much better on this plan than I was on the straight BTD.  But had SWAMI not been available, I would have gone back to BTD after those 2 months. My particular SWAMI appears to be mostly BTD values with a few  GTD values thrown in- for some people it's half and half or more genotype values.

I know I was doing the right genotype because even SWAMI gives me the "Gatherer" label, and has done so after adjusting the input data on 3 separate occasions (being re-measured,and then learning my secretor status.) The online quiz that C_Sharp linked said that I'd do better on GTD than BTD- but that didn't prove to be the case for me.

Above all, listen to your body.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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loertling
Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 4:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thank you all for the info.
Do you have any experience with B+ food lists?
I don't understand the distinction between refined/unbleached/white flour/ wheat as neutral for me and gluten flour wheat to avoid. Doesn't unbleached wheat or white flour have gluten in them?
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All wheat flours contain gluten.

Gluten flour and High Gluten flour have more gluten in them.

You might want a flour with more gluten in it to make something like bagels. Some food products (say Seitan) are primarily gluten

About 80 of protein in wheat is gluten.

Cake flour is typically 7-9% protein;
pastry, or cookie, ~9-10%;
all purpose, 10-12%,
bread, 12.5-13.5%,
high gluten, 14-15%;
gluten "flour" might be 45%


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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