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BluesSinger
Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So I've been experiencing a real dark brain lately.  I'm in menopause and have been reading about it and this seems to be a normal type of thing that happens.  But they did mention getting thyroid tested.  If so, it seems  I've read somewhere that if they don't test correctly, you could receive a normal reading but still have an issue.

This morning I was really dark and decided that it had been awhile since I'd eaten good grass fed beef.  So I made up some patties with olive oil, some millet bread crumbled up and added, (like my Mom used to do with regular bread crumbs), minced onions, cayenne and salt.  Cooked um up nice and juicy with a little browning and ate one.

Now it's about 30 min later and my brain feels much better.  Did I need some dopamine?  I mean this is a distinct difference.  

Any comments on the thyroid testing anyway would be much appreciated.  I do take FemBalance but my hot flashes are not completely gone.  It's just been lately that I've gotten the dark brain thing.  

As well my body has become extremely sensitive to any wrong or off Swami limits food I might eat.  

So I'm being forced to work on staying on the good path.

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Do you have any other thyroid symptoms, thinning hair, cold  all the time, achy joints?  You could just try taking your temp first thing in the morning before you get out of bed.  If it's significantly below normal, that could be a sign of low thyroid.  Easy enough to get some bloodwork done.  Most people function best at a TSH reading of between 1 and 2.  You could look at Mary Shomon's thyroid page on About.com for everything you ever wanted to know about thyroids, meds, testing, doctors, etc.  
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@ Lola; That's very wishful thinking.. For most people with thyroid-problems thyroid medication is the only thing that works.
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What about my meat experience?
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You probably needed the tyrosine from the beef.  Tyrosine can make you brain wake up.
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You probably needed the tyrosine from the beef.  Tyrosine can make you brain wake up.


no... because I take up to 2000 mg of Tyrosine a day in capsule form.  so it was something else I was needing from the meat.  
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@ Lola; That's very wishful thinking.. For most people with thyroid-problems thyroid medication is the only thing that works.


What Lola is saying is also in relation to vitamins, minerals, etc. Many people can come off intitial medication if they reach a homeostasis in the body. It's all relative to family history, environment, stress level, and general endocrine capability. I sucessfully disposed of my meds altogether.

Meat is important to those with thyroid issues because sugars and carbs can overstimulate the gland - just as a pancreas would be overstimulated by sugars and carbs (especially avoids!)


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Personally, I'd try to fix things with diet before rushing off to have lab testing done. If eating more red meat gives you sustained energy, does it matter which organ was "under-functioning" before you increased your meat intake?

If eating more red meat doesn't completely solve the problem, then you can resume looking at thyroid or other testing.


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Personally, I'd try to fix things with diet before rushing off to have lab testing done. If eating more red meat gives you sustained energy, does it matter which organ was "under-functioning" before you increased your meat intake?

If eating more red meat doesn't completely solve the problem, then you can resume looking at thyroid or other testing.


Once one hormone-producing gland in the body changes (in menopause), the others are bound to feel the effect and go thru a period of "compensation." If your vision or sleep, or wieght gain or personality change in an unexplained way, and if you notice a drop in your overall personality after you eat something, that's a good time to go get testing. Also - your dentist at your regular dental cleanings will always palpate the thyroid gland to see if it is tender or lumpy or enlarged. That is how I was clued in on what had happened to me.


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Personally, I'd try to fix things with diet before rushing off to have lab testing done. If eating more red meat gives you sustained energy, does it matter which organ was "under-functioning" before you increased your meat intake?

If eating more red meat doesn't completely solve the problem, then you can resume looking at thyroid or other testing.


it didn't give me more energy.. it improved my 'dark' brain.  
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I just had a complete thyroid panel blood test. Everything looks to be in the normal range. So I have thinning hair and weight gain for another reason ... probably lack of female hormones. Mine are really low. I can't go more than a day without some kind of meat, though.
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Quoted from BluesSinger
So I've been experiencing a real dark brain lately.  I'm in menopause and have been reading about it and this seems to be a normal type of thing that happens.  But they did mention getting thyroid tested.  If so, it seems  I've read somewhere that if they don't test correctly, you could receive a normal reading but still have an issue.

This morning I was really dark and decided that it had been awhile since I'd eaten good grass fed beef.  So I made up some patties with olive oil, some millet bread crumbled up and added, (like my Mom used to do with regular bread crumbs), minced onions, cayenne and salt.  Cooked um up nice and juicy with a little browning and ate one.

Now it's about 30 min later and my brain feels much better.  Did I need some dopamine?  I mean this is a distinct difference.  

Any comments on the thyroid testing anyway would be much appreciated.  I do take FemBalance but my hot flashes are not completely gone.  It's just been lately that I've gotten the dark brain thing.  

As well my body has become extremely sensitive to any wrong or off Swami limits food I might eat.  

So I'm being forced to work on staying on the good path.



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The dark brain could be many things:

1.  Lower Progesterone and higher estrogen.
2.  Low iron
3.  Low thyroid.

If your estrogen is excessively high, it can block thyroid hormone from getting to the thyroid hormone receptors which will show as normal amounts of thyroid hormone in your blood.

If you are experiencing heavy periods, you could have low iron/anemia and red meat helps that almost immediately.

Dry skin, losing the outside third of your eyebrows, low body temperature, low heart rate are all classic signs of hypothyroidism.

Have you read the Mood Cure by Julia Ross?  Why are you taking Tyrosine?

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Well put, jeanb.  Also, relative to testing. There's normal and there's normal.  There  are disagreements among thyroid specialists about what normal is.  Optimum TSH a lot of endocrinologists feel is between 1 and 2.  Some doctors still believe normal is as high as 5.  Still plenty of controversy about what "subclinical" hypothyroidism is and whether it should be treated with meds.  
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@ Lola; That's very wishful thinking..

yup!  you can say that again!!

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D.L., if you don't mind my asking, what were your ranges for your TSH, Free T4, Free T3 and Reverse T3?


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kelp, and the aminoacid l'tyrosine are fine helpers here as well   cordyceps,reishi & polyporus are beautiful aids in adrenal fatigue which has + - the same mentioned symptoms.... and also hairloss


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