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I had mild eczema on the palms of my hands and my wrists for about eight years. Last summer it became psoriasis. I began to wear microfiber fingerless gloves because 1) it was ugly, 2) the warmth helped and 3) I left it alone better when it was covered. Normally I only wear natural fabrics, but cotton is absorbent and I could not afford to have any more moisture removed from my skin. Since the microfiber felt so good, I was sure it must be ok.

Off we went to Hawaii, where it seemed laughable to be wearing gloves, but oh well. While we were there, my psoriasis became severe. The itching was intolerable (for six months!), it spread up my arms, and my skin was very red. I quit the gloves, obviously, but the horror continued.

My homeopath told me long ago that I should get off wheat (which I had done for 3 years to no avail), but my Swami said it is a diamond for me. So when he told me to get off wheat again for my psoriasis, I didn't do so. Eventually he told me that he thought I needed to get off all grains, since getting off just wheat didn't help. Well, that sounded drastic. Ugh. All grains? (My friend told me, oh, then just eat brown rice instead. ) I was slow to try that, but eventually I noticed that at the top edges of the psoriasis, I had hives. No doubt the hives were under the psoriasis, too. The problem was so severe that I had to give in.

Shortly after quitting all grains, I felt quite a bit better. I improved more yet on homeopathic histamine. Now the itching was far less frequent and much less severe. It usually was surfacey, now, which just meant that the scales needed to be scratched off. Bad enough. But once in a while I still got deep, severe itching. I realized that meant allergy. So I began doing pulse testing a few days ago to see what other foods I might be allergic to. Since I was already mostly on compliant foods, I am testing them first. Sadly, my only meat is going away. But I look forward to feeling much better.

Hopefully by fall I will be back in long sleeves (I was very cold this winter!). Since I will have to wear natural fabrics, and most of my clothes are cotton, that means the dryness of my skin will have to improve if I am to be warm.

Anyway, I wrote this in case anyone with psoriasis has not yet checked out the allergy connection.

Also, any suggestions on building up an allergic body would be appreciated. I have leaky gut, so I am allergic to a lot of foods. Thanks!


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any suggestions on building up an allergic body would be appreciated


you have the allergies book
and last but not least, SWAMI!

oh, and also the allergies protocol as well as all the sups related to allergies support at DPN


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Thanks, Lola. I hope I can eat enough of my compliant foods to subsist on them. :/

If I get the allergies book, will application of it help me to quit being allergic eventually? Or am I doomed to this forever?


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I have leaky gut, ...

Fix this...

Deflect, Intrinsa, Ghee, may need some Gastro D, then Polyflora...


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Hopefully by fall I will be back in long sleeves (I was very cold this winter!). Since I will have to wear natural fabrics, and most of my clothes are cotton, that means the dryness of my skin will have to improve if I am to be warm.

Have you checked your iodine level? I was so low at one time that I was freezing to death in the summer!

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Are you iodine-deficient?

Do you often feel tired, and have low energy? Do you have muscular and skeletal aches and pains? Brain fog, unenthusiastic or depressed? Do you have a variety of allergies or intolerances? Are you prone to fungal and other infections? Digestion not what it used to be?

http://www.growyouthful.com/remedy/iodine.php


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Kescah,  That's very interesting as I had an aunt who had psoriasis.  And I discovered I was gluten intolerant and read that with psoriasis being auto immune it is often due to gluten.  I find I do best on rice.  The histamine part is also interesting as I've just been reading about this being connected to people with Hayfever which I have.
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Try this thread for some help.

Remember it will not go away over night.
A full year of compliance will one of the best things you can do the gut takes time to heal.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1333422932/


More from old posts-
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?v-search/p-2/


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Thanks ABJoe! But if I fix the leaky gut, won't I still already be allergic to these foods from past leakiness?

Spring, I am cold because I have to wear short sleeves in winter weather. But I will make sure I'm getting my iodine. Thanks!

Lin, from what I've read on this forum, my blood type should not have trouble with gluten. Am I right about that? Even if it is a problem, would I be getting gluten if I am not eating grains?

Thanks, Andrea. I will read up!


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Thanks ABJoe! But if I fix the leaky gut, won't I still already be allergic to these foods from past leakiness?

As the body heals and gets the toxins out of the bloodstream and is reducing the amount of stored toxins, it may drop much of the sensitivity just because it isn't so overloaded...  

I do know the "leaky" and sensitivities will continue to get worse if you don't fix it...


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Well, that makes sense!  


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Andrea, your second link is not working. If you can try again... thanks.


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I did a search for psoriasis threads, and all I could find was single pages from ten or more years ago. Really? It is not that rare! I'd love to read any threads you know about.


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Thanks, both of you. But Amazone, your link is not working.  


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So, he recommends unpasteurized butter in what quantity? I am using ghee... is the other better? I suppose it was probably chosen specifically for her.

I keep sorting out what I can and cannot eat. Of my GTD compliant foods, I am allergic to many. That cuts down my diet quite a bit, but this is a miserable disease, and I am not inclined to eat anything that makes it worse. I do wonder if I will be able to get enough nutrition, though.

I need to order the Deflect and the other recommended supplements.

I do notice, while doing pulse testing for allergies, that some vegetables actually seem to reduce my pulse rate. Must be a good thing.

For anyone interested in testing for food allergies that way, take your pulse before eating a food (best to do just one food at a time), then 10, 20 and 30 minutes after. Don't do anything else to raise your pulse, like exercise, during that time. If your pulse rate goes up 5 or more beats per minute, you are allergic to that food.

Dr. Mercola says not to scratch when it itches (really hard to obey!) but to use a compress of good salt water (like Himalayan salt). He says it relieves the itch and prevents breaking out.

Sunlight helps (the UVB rays), and oh, I almost forgot!

I recently started on N-Acetyl Cysteine from the health food store. Wow! I had bought it for my son's bipolar, and I did some reading on it. It said it was helpful with inflammation, so I decided to give it a try. The first dose reduced the severe dryness of my skin so much that instead of rubbing olive oil on every fifteen minutes, I used it only twice a day on my arms and maybe 5 times a day on my hands. Really a huge, huge improvement! Today is the third day and my arms are not bothering me much at all, though they are still peeling.

It is also useful for OCDs, grooming disorders (like skin picking, which really is a sorry condition to have if you have psoriasis...) and even helps people to quit smoking.

Welcoming any comments and getting more and more foods out of my diet. :/




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Not just for her-- he would not tell us about it unless he thought it was useful for everyone. That is not like him.
2TBS once a day-- melt it in hot water and drink--

Being all over  the place with supplements will only make you crazy.


This is a treatment for  specific amount of weeks not a forever thing---



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I thought it might be specific for her blood type, genotype... you know.

The N-Acetyl Cysteine is far from making me crazy- it is the best thing yet with overnight relief. I realize I still need to do the work, and I assume that a year from now I will be in great shape.

The NAC is something that anyone can use with any inflammatory condition or any of the following psychiatric conditions- worth a try:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044191/

Thanks for the additional butter info!


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Somewhere here I read that some of the only foods I can eat (neither non-compliant or allergens) cause gut problems. I think I read peanuts, soy and ... that's the question. What else?

I have so few foods right now. I really don't want to cut those out unless I need to. Can someone clue me in?


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All that I am going to say here, is conjecture on my part..so take it with less then a grain of salt.

I own a pulse- meter.. my pulse varies greatly by the amount of oxygen in my lungs.. there is no way I could not influence my breathing with the least thought.

I think eliminating foods for such a reading would not be my way of trusting this  diet here.  Being sensitive to a food is quicker measured by how soon you itch from it. Doing this way of GTD eating for a month should in my way of thinking do you good, even if for now you 'think' a food might not be good for you. You may need the nutrients of that food to heal other issues.

Having self tested for a long time might make you afraid of eating certain foods, which is possibly much more of on issue then actually being sensitive to it.  If I would advise you, I would suggest strongly that you eat Super Beneficial Diamond foods for a week, and after that add one Beneficial food a day. And keep eating just those foods for a year. After that I would expect you will no longer be sensitive to most of those foods and feel much better inside and out.  (look up the differences between sensitive and allergic- might calm some fears.)  This GTD way of eating if you tested correctly, should be a big step in the right direction.

I eat very few neutral foods, and no avoids, when I am good, as they make me sleepy and water retaining.  I do cheat here and there with 5% of other foods, and can most often tell the next day that I did so with puffy body, stiff joints, gaining weight.

Doing the butter is good for a while.. using as much olive oil I might question, and possibly change from one brand to another, just to make sure IT is not irritating your internal body which has to compensate for it.

It might also be better to take a spoon of olive oil instead of putting it on the skin.  I found olive oil calms the brain a lot after about 15 minutes. ( my experience - learned recently for other reasons./ Careful / not forgetting the calories./ it might affect your hunger / so monitor your food intake /needs..)  if you are over or underweight there is a need for taking the oil differently.  I will answer you later if you tell me which it is. You might be able to take several spoons of oil a day...          

The tip on how to treat on itch is interesting.  

Your experience with NAC is interesting.  Keep reporting.
    


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I have psoriasis and multiple autoimmune issues. I find gluten and dairy directly related to my psoriasis. I find other foods cause other issues but not psoriasis. I am just a very sensitive/reactive individual unfortunately. I like having a higher fat diet - coconut oil, avocados, meats, butter, nuts. I go more by what my body tells me over any specific diet - I have to combine information I read but read my body first as I haven't met anything that can meet my sensitivities that well. A food journal and documenting absolutely everything puts me in a really good place.
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Somewhere here I read that some of the only foods I can eat (neither non-compliant or allergens) cause gut problems. I think I read peanuts, soy and ... that's the question. What else?

I have so few foods right now. I really don't want to cut those out unless I need to. Can someone clue me in?


Soy and peanuts are very good foods for Warriors.  Do you have access to your/a GenoType book?  There is a ton of allowable foods.

Perhaps I'm not understanding???


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Enobattar- Thanks for your reply. Yes, I do have the GenoType book. I have my Swami, too, which is really great to have. I know soy and peanuts are really good for warriors, and I am not allergic to them (no itch), but I read here that they and some other foods contribute to leaky gut. Now I can't find that comment. If someone who knows could reply, I would appreciate it greatly. A list of any compliant (even diamond) foods that I should not eat while healing my gut would be greatly appreciated. Or do I have that wrong?

Another question- is freezing my fish ok, or should I eat only fresh?

Gardengirl- Is gluten found only in grains? I am off all grains. I am an A type and believe that we don't have a gluten problem, but I am willing to do whatever I must. It is really good advice to listen to the body first and foremost. I am going to focus more on that. Thanks for your comments. You might want to try N-Acetyl Cysteine for inflammation. I find that it tremendously helps with the dryness of my arms and hands. I've only taken it for a week, but noticed a huge difference the first morning-after, and smaller improvements regularly since.

Goldie- I do find that steep rises in my pulse (9 or more beats) correspond to the itching. I also assumed that oxygenation would affect the pulse and have tried to be very consistent about exercise levels before testing. I am going to test breathing/pulse levels, too, now.

I will follow your suggestion about eating diamonds for a week and then adding in beneficials. However, I won't eat the diamonds that make me itch. I'd love to eat wheat again... it is a diamond for me. But a major improvement occurred when I stopped all grains at once, and I am afraid to eat it. I could be allergic to diamond foods.

I will look up the difference between sensitive and allergic. Also, I am about 12 pounds overweight. Thanks for your help.


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I have my Swami, too, which is really great to have. I know soy and peanuts are really good for warriors, and I am not allergic to them (no itch), but I read here that they and some other foods contribute to leaky gut. Now I can't find that comment. If someone who knows could reply, I would appreciate it greatly. A list of any compliant (even diamond) foods that I should not eat while healing my gut would be greatly appreciated. Or do I have that wrong?

It would be you to tell us if any beneficial or diamond food from Your SWAMI caused you a problem...

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Another question- is freezing my fish ok, or should I eat only fresh?
We eat most of our fish either frozen or canned...  Quick frozen is worse than slow frozen, but no fish is worse than frozen fish.  I'm also partial to eating good food, rather than bacteria infested, rotting food, so if I need to freeze food to keep it from going bad, I'd far rather do that than waste it...



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Kescah,

I am one of the few people (perhaps on this forum) who understand what it is like when YOU HAVE TO ITCH.  I've had a skin condition on my left calf mainly but it's a little on my right leg and a little on both thighs for many years now.  

Initially, it was thought to be psoraisis or contact dermatitis.  It started with a small patch that itched on my left ankle area 7 years ago when my mother died and I was in a very stressful situation at work.  

I went to the dermatologist and he concluded it was a staff infection (not easy to get rid of).  He gave me various types of cortisone creams that worked in the short term.  

Right now in the last three weeks the itching at night has become intolerant.  Ice is a quick fix if you don't have anything else handy.  

I read your note about N-Acetyl Cysteine and I actually have some.  I just popped a pill after reading your post.  

I am very pro-essential oils and use Tamanu oil, Rosehip oil, Heliocrysum.  All very good for skin conditions.  I have edema on my left ankle and the least little scatch will make it swell.  One professional told me it was coming from the inside it will go away.  The skin looks alot better than it did six months ago.  It's just the itching that is so distracting.  

I applaud you for choosing to eliminate foods that you find are allergic to your system.  I'm thinking about taking a test through the Professional Supplements store that targets food allergies.  

Please keep me posted on what is working for you.  I hope we find the solution for this condition.

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