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becrola
Friday, April 12, 2013, 11:04pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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HALLO,
I THINK THERE ARE SOME BIG MISTAKES AND CONFUSES ON YOUR SITE, ESPECIALLY ON YOUR CHARTS IN "BLOOD TYPE DIET/ NUTRIENT VALUE ENCYCLOPEDIA" THE LINK IS : http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
AS EXAMPLES : HEART (BEEF)
YOU MARKED :
        PROTEIN (17.7 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
        FAT (4 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
        CARBOHYDRATE (0 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
AND THE GRAPH SHOWS : PROTEIN 80% FAT 19%
ALL THE GRAPHS, FOR ALL THE INDEX-IN FACT ONLY THE PIE CHARTS (CIRCLE GRAPHS), BOTH- ARE INCORRECT, BECAUSE THE FIRST AND LAST ONE(THE BAR GRAPH) I CAN'T VERIFY THE VERACITY ( AND YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THE CORRECTNESS OF THE DATA); PLEASE, CHECK THIS, ASAP , BECAUSE YOU CREATE A LOT OF CONFUSING !
THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATE YOUR COLLABORATION!
CRISTIAN
MORE, YOU SAID: “FOLLOW SECRETOR VALUE IF YOU DO NOT KNOW YOUR SECRETOR STATUS.” BUT A LOT OF SECRETOR VALUES ARE “NEUTRAL” AND THE NON-SECRETOR ARE “AVOIDS”. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

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short answer, 85% are secretors

pls read forum rules and Etiquette on the use of capital letters in posts http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?n-1/b-ForumEtiquette/


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link doesn't work!


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
DD ( is O+(Non)NN, Duffy Fy(a+b-) Lewis (a+b-) Gatherer
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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
link doesn't work!


It's obviously the uppercase version of this
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from Lola


short answer, 85% are secretors
Cristian, this means that most people should follow the secretor aspect of the diet if they don't know whether they are non-secretors.  Yes, the diets are a bit different.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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becrola
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

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Lola, I think your answer is null and void . It's a non-sense. So, following your logic, the type AB have to follow the O blood type , because the O type represents 65% and AB 5%. More you have to think that I didn't tell about a avoid-secretor and neutral- nonsecretor, opposite , neutral-secretor and avoid non-secretor. I think it's more than clear that is an error.

Thank you !
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Quoted from becrola

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

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Lola, I think your answer is null and void . It's a non-sense. So, following your logic, the type AB have to follow the O blood type , because the O type represents 65% and AB 5%. More you have to think that I didn't tell about a avoid-secretor and neutral- nonsecretor, opposite , neutral-secretor and avoid non-secretor. I think it's more than clear that is an error.

Thank you !


There's nothing anywhere that says Type AB's should follow the Type O Diet.

You follow the guidelines for each individual food, as listed.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Read Square Peg's post. Lola is completely right about the secretors being in the majority. It is well worth the time and effort to know your secretor status. I got tremendous help from the diet for years and didn't know my status, but when I eventually learned that I was a non-secretor, the diet was much more beneficial to me in many different ways.


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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If I'm remembering Dr. D correctly, the food nutrient values in the TypeBase have been taken from nationally accepted standards/information.  The information possibly came from published sources originating from the FDA.  I could be wrong, but that's what I seem to remember when Dr. D explained the food nutrient tables to develop SWAMI.

If a senior member knows different, please correct me.


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becrola
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Kimonokat, I didn't tell that. Just read carefully my posts and open your minds and try to find together the rights answers and/or amend the errors. Please re-read my questions/facts and answer according to! Thank you !
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becrola
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Kimonokat , again, it's not about the veracity of the source or the data there, but the fact there is a big contradiction between the graphs and the information; just some seconds of basic calculation. I'll give you again the example:                   PROTEIN (17.7 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
FAT (4 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
CARBOHYDRATE (0 GRAMS PER 100 GRAMS )
AND THE GRAPH SHOWS : PROTEIN 80% FAT 19% per 100 grams
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Quoted from becrola

Kimonokat, I didn't tell that. Just read carefully my posts and open your minds and try to find together the rights answers and/or amend the errors. Please re-read my questions/facts and answer according to! Thank you !


That "is" what you said.  

QUOTE:
So, following your logic, the type AB have to follow the O blood type , because the O type represents 65% and AB 5%.
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I do not see the "errors" that you are describing in the TypeBase.


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So Cristian, what exactly is the error(s) you are pointing out.  Are you saying the diet is suspect because there could be typos in the typebase????

Lola is correct in how she explained things to you.  Your argument is not correct as the hierarchy of the food values is based first on the bloodtype not on secretor status.

Are you trolling or flaming??? Just curious in that the first time on the board you are sounding rather inflammatory.  
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becrola
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Are you a manipulating guy ? I said “following your logic...” it was about the Lola logic . Come on ! I don’t want to believe it’s a waste of time !
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becrola
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I don’t understand you, guys! There is somebody who can reasons right and has good intentions? I agree English it’s not my language , but I think it’s not a big deal to understand that’s a big confusing telling to following the secretor status( if you don’t know your status) when there are a lot of items NEUTRAL  in secretor and AVOID in non-secretor. The fact, IN THIS CASE, the secretors are the majority IS NOT an explanation. It’s the same as we can say for the AB type to follow the O type because O type is majority. It’s a non-sense! I’m waiting for other pertinent answers! Thank you!
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Hi becrola,

The best thing might be for you to reread the book, preferably in your native tongue. Or discuss it with someone in your native tongue.

Arguing won't help - the diet has been around for a long time. It would not have been around this long if there was such a serious problem as you assert. So take some time to let people help you find what you need to know. Or go somewhere else and try a different diet.

Best, Lloyd
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becrola
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I’m not at all “inflammatory”, but it seems you hide yourself behind your answers! I didn’t have a I relevant answer at my 2 points (the graphs and the secretor vs non-secretors). I think we can think more than a “cliché”. Anyway, if you think I’m bothering you, I can move out and act subsequently! I was thinking it could be both ways usefully.
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Quoted from becrola
Hallo,
I think there are some big mistakes and confuses on your site, especially on your charts in "blood type diet/ nutrient value encyclopedia" the link is : http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
As examples : heart (beef)
You marked :
        protein (17.7 grams per 100 grams )
        fat (4 grams per 100 grams )
        carbohydrate (0 grams per 100 grams )
And the graph shows : protein 80% fat 19%
All the graphs, for all the index-in fact only the pie charts (circle graphs), both- are incorrect, because the first and last one(the bar graph) i can't verify the veracity ( and you have to assume the correctness of the data); please, check this, asap , because you create a lot of confusing !
Thank you for your understanding and appreciate your collaboration!
Cristian
More, you said: “follow secretor value if you do not know your secretor status.” But a lot of secretor values are “neutral” and the non-secretor are “avoids”. Could you explain this?



I looked at the page and the graphs appear correct to me.



This graphs shows what fraction of a persons total daily calorie is met by eating a 100 grams of heart.

The heart contains 112 calories and it is assumed a person needs 2200 calories.


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becrola
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Lloyd, if you think the problem was my "english" , I think you are an hypocrite. I am on this diet, and my family, from 5 years and I respect it a lot. More, I've read all the documentations on this diet in three languages. It was just to signal some errors,which can create a lot of confusing, and try to fix them. If you think there is nothing to improve or repair I think you are on the wrong way. More, this kind of answers and attitudes, put a lot of doubt on you ! If this diet exists, is because there was people who was thinking out-of-the-box and was respected each other ! Thank you for your understanding !
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becrola
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C_sharp, I'm speaking about the 2 pie(circle) graphs, as mentioned in my post !
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Quoted from becrola
Lloyd, if you think the problem was my "english" , I think you are an hypocrite.


Think what you will. We have many members in Canada and in the Toronto area. There are many here who speak French if you would find that helpful.

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becrola
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Thank you Lloyd and waiting for some answers in french, but I think you are the only one who's thinking my english is  a problem. This kind of polemics don't help. I'm waiting for relevant answers and an open mind / logical and respectful discussions. Thank you !
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I am not certain why this graph is important, but it appears as if graph:

Shows fat grams/(grams of protein + grams of fat + grams of Carbohydrate)  4 fat grams/ (17.7 protein grams + 4 grams protein)
= 18.4%

Shows protein grams/(grams of protein + grams of fat + grams of Carbohydrate)  17.7 fat grams/ (17.7 protein grams + 4 grams protein)
= 81.5%

I presume the slight variations in percentages is from the graph using more decimal places for grams of fat, grams of protein, grams of carbohydrate than I did.


I think a graph showing percent of calories from fat would be more useful, but that does not make the graph wrong.


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Total fat grams = 0.5 + 1.1 + 1.3 = 2.9 total grams

Fraction polyunsaturated = 0.5/2.9 =17.2 %

Fraction Monounsaturated = 1.1/2.9 =37.9 %

Fraction Saturated = 1.3/2.9 = 44.8 %


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From looking online and at the chart:

Heart contains very little Vitamin  E, A, C .

B12 RDA is 2.4 mcg 100 gram serving supplies 8.5 mcg (350% --Off chart)

Ca contains very little

Se RDA is 55 mcg contains 40 % or so of

Magnesium - RDA is 420 mg male or 320 female Heart supplies 21 mg this would be approximately 5%


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