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marjorie
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Hi

So, I am struggling a bit about a carb overload today Good thing is that I learned my lesson once again. My body doesnt like carbs at all.

On the other hand, i feel sick to my stomach and not sure how to get totally on board with btd again.

I have polyflora and fucus, so that will help.

I dont do well on alot of fat or alot protein.. so I need to find a good balance.

Any o's go through this after being on the diet for so long? I know BTD is the way for me, but I have to find a plan that works for me economically and psychologically.

I ran 4 miles today because I was so upset about eating the carbs.. dried fruit, dates, a vegan bar... ugh! I was a hot mess.


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is it better to just not eat and let my tummy relax or will eating some protein help this irritable bloated feeling i have right now.

Annoyance with myself
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I sip a few mugs of warm water with bicarb & Epsom salts (teaspoonful of each - not talking about a bulimic approach) if I ever over do it... Helps settle my tummy & moves things through... & I fast for at least a while too?!
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Quoted from Possum
I sip a few mugs of warm water with bicarb & Epsom salts (teaspoonful of each - not talking about a bulimic approach) if I ever over do it... Helps settle my tummy & moves things through... & I fast for at least a while too?!


thank you. I do not have any of those items in the house, but I could sip some warm water and go to bed or at least try.

I get so tired of analyzing what I eat.

However, tomorrow is a brand new day and I am going to believe that I am not totally off. I did not eat any dairy, corn, gluten or non-compliant foods, just TOO many was the issue.

Those dates are good, but wow.... I cant take them at all.
I think fasting is a good option.. I am learning that fasting is a healing process. Maybe I dont have to workout as much as I do, and fasting might help me to focus on the real issue here which pretty much has NOTHING to do with food. Hence, my psychology background
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We all go through this.  Just get back to your diet.
I wasn't a big bread eater much of my life, but now with no wheat, I occasionally try rice bread but even too much of that messes me up. A couple of weeks ago, I had some Ezekiel bread & the next 2 days was drowsy. I even nodded off while reading sitting in a chair.  It felt like narcolepsy, but then I remembered what the culprit was!
We also have avoids that bother us & those that don't outwardly do so.  I eat Lara Bars, even tho dates are supposed to be avoids. I somehow can handle them(hopefully!).
Dairy & wheat would have very bad results! Some foods make me look old & vanity is a great motivator! Even agave, which is supposed to be OK makes me look old or tired. A trace amount wouldn't, but large amounts do. Boooo!!
We keep learning, so don't despair!


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
We all go through this.  Just get back to your diet.
I wasn't a big bread eater much of my life, but now with no wheat, I occasionally try rice bread but even too much of that messes me up. A couple of weeks ago, I had some Ezekiel bread & the next 2 days was drowsy. I even nodded off while reading sitting in a chair.  It felt like narcolepsy, but then I remembered what the culprit was!
We also have avoids that bother us & those that don't outwardly do so.  I eat Lara Bars, even tho dates are supposed to be avoids. I somehow can handle them(hopefully!).
Dairy & wheat would have very bad results! Some foods make me look old & vanity is a great motivator! Even agave, which is supposed to be OK makes me look old or tired. A trace amount wouldn't, but large amounts do. Boooo!!
We keep learning, so don't despair!



Thank you so much I do feel better that I can get back on board....slowly.

Sending you a pm!

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How about some broth? I am also tired of analyzing food and this is keeping the big ones out already - but like you, learning the proper balance of what my body can handle between carbs, protein and fat feels next to impossible. Main thing is to not just give up.  
Funny Mrs. T., I find eating the wrong food can really age me and only for a week or so. I look run down and my wrinkles come out. Weird.
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better luck next day ..... the most important thing is to forgive yourselve....


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The key issue is not beating yourself up over your failures.  We all learn from our failures. What you can learn, are those situations where you tend to make bad choices, and learn to make better choices next time.

I often overate beneficials.  I thought it was okay because it was a beneficial. It can't 'harm' me, right?  Or that one chocolate bar is okay because it's 'chocolate' and that's on my beneficial list.  It's excuses we use to fulfill a momentary need of comforting ourselves with food.  I've been through these mental gymnastics in my mind for a long time now.  

I currently don't eat grain.  I get all the carbs I should eat via sweet potatoes.  I don't skimp on ghee on my potatoes. It helps to make me feel full.

Hope this helps.  Sharing with the best of intentions.


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I just enjoy it.  I ate it.  I wanted it.  So why not enjoy it?
  
But it's never the food really, it's always something going on in my head that takes me there to begin with. So...
A hot cup of decaf green tea seems to help me get back on the right path.  
And running like a wild and crazy person seems to help me too.  

Oh ya, and playing Lego Lord Of The Rings and bashing everything in sight seems to help straighten out whatever hitch I've got in my giddy-up going on.
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When I fall off, I tell myself the "next meal is my fresh start". I feel so much better overall when I stick to my plan, and sometimes I'm feeling so good that I fool myself into thinking that "one piece" won't hurt me...and then it does.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Sometimes I feel the need to gorge on everything and just don't care. (usually hormone time) But the next day and for 3 or 4 more days I do care because I feel like junk. Remembering this keep me in line. My saying is, "one bad meal = 4 bad days". That always helps me.


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I've been following this diet since I'm 47 (check my age)....so I've had many opportunities to fall off the plan and start over....which is usually my next meal.

But I want to share a few tips.  First is don't allow yourself to get so hungry that you find that you're
lusting after foods you know you shouldn't eat.  And don't allow yourself to get so dehydrated and thirsty
(without sometimes knowing it) that you want to eat instead of drink a glass of water.

Yesterday, I waited too long to eat lunch.  All I could think about was the gluten free bagel in my freezer....thinking of lots of ghee on top....I didn't want anything else.  I immediately went over to my
pantry (while focusing on that bagel I hadn't removed from the freezer) and pulled out a can of
Great Northern Beans.  I stopped to drink a full 8 oz glass of water.....and continued to open the can,
drain the beans and dump them into a mini food processor....Still focusing on that bagel and having
it nearly drive me crazy, the thought of crunchy food came into my mind....chips....crackers...starch...
bread, cake, cookies, butter.  Fat and starch...OMG...Someone help me please!  I've had experiences
like that many times over the years....and each time, I've managed to bite the bullet and keep on going
forward listening to the little voice in my head that was going in the right direction.

So, dumping the can of beans into my mini food processor, squeezing in some lemon juice, throwing
in a few cloves of fresh garlic, a few sprinkles of sea salt, a handful of cilantro, a few glugs of EVOO
and a little hot water....away went my food processor making me bean dip.  The odor of garlic
was enough to counteract the thought of that bagel....and quickly I ran to my 'fridge to find my
bag of raw stringbeans, my cut up carrots, celery and red pepper strips.  I didn't even bother to
put the dip into a bowl....I just removed the little blade, ate about 2 cups of veggies, a little less
than half my bean dip..

And one more glass of water....

And totally forgot about that bagel.  In fact, I didn't even want the bagel.  About 2 hours later, I had
a handful of mixed nuts...a cup of green tea.

And my day was totally compliant!

This can be done if you listen to the little voice in your head that keeps instructing you to eat the
foods that are beneficial.....Keep that little voice loud enough so it eventually drowns out the naughty voice that says "bagels, chips, cake, cookies, candy, sugar, sugar, fat.... yada yada yada".


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Quoted from marjorie
So, I am struggling a bit about a carb overload today Good thing is that I learned my lesson once again. My body doesnt like carbs at all.

I dont do well on alot of fat or alot protein.. so I need to find a good balance.

This about sums it up.  You need to find a good balance between the proteins, fats and carbs. - combined with eating enough.  You may have to stretch that stomach a bit to get enough to eat.  It may be a bit uncomfortable since you have eaten so little for so long.  

Learning new things is often uncomfortable, but we continue on because the knowledge and the results from using said knowledge is valuable and worth every bit of the discomfort we went through to gain it...


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This can be done if you listen to the little voice in your head that keeps instructing you to eat the foods that are beneficial.....Keep that little voice loud enough so it eventually drowns out the naughty voice that says "bagels, chips, cake, cookies, candy, sugar, sugar, fat.... yada yada yada".

Very well stated.  Always look for a beneficial alternative when desiring an avoid.  This is part of the reason I like to keep avoids in the house to a minimum...  The benefits are so worth it!


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Very helpful and insightful post, Chloe - Thank you!  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Marjorie, I second what ABJoe said. The transition can be difficult and rough on the body, but you should be able to feel some rewards through it all. And it gets better.
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I do well enough with carbs from vegetables, I do poorly with carbs from starches.

When I go off and eat avoids my body yells and screams and dances a jig, all to let me know it is unhappy. As soon as compliant food comes down the body purrs like a kitten, contented that I listened and did the right thing.

It takes so little to mess with me and my weight. But it takes just a minute to also respond to what is good for me.. I marvel at how easy it is for the body to switch from the state of despair to the state of nirvana. And if I do right my body is my friend.  

The mind is my enemy...  The mind seems never to learn a lesson.  seems to keep doing the same thing over and over, sending out messages: reach for this and eat that and by all means do not leave anything on my plate.  My mind is a storage container of thoughts I do not need to have.  The mind does not recognize truth from fiction it just mindlessly allow for me to become unhappy later.

By comparison the body never forgets a smell, a look, a taste... together they create moments of joy and moments celebrating some thing.. something whatever is ... and then I go on and celebrate my own good health, and well being by celebrating the differences with Beneficials...   That is all I can do.. but it is enough... recently I discovered (my oil thread) that I could still my inner conversation about avoids and now even that 'inner war' is quiet..

Good luck in whatever you need to do.. but every day is a discovery.. I live for them... Find yours and celebrate...


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It takes so little to mess with me and my weight. But it takes just a minute to also respond to what is good for me..


So true!


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I do well enough with carbs from vegetables, I do poorly with carbs from starches.

The mind is my enemy...  The mind seems never to learn a lesson.  seems to keep doing the same thing over and over, sending out messages: reach for this and eat that and by all means do not leave anything on my plate.  My mind is a storage container of thoughts I do not need to have.  The mind does not recognize truth from fiction it just mindlessly allow for me to become unhappy later.  
Me too!! I just got home from taking husband to work & smelled the lovely (compliant for him) freshly toasted bread I had made for his breakfast & lunch... As I set about making my own breakfast of minced beef & lettuce I was literally feeling sick at the thought of it & it was all I could do not to grab some toast However now, absolutely forced myself to eat the beef, I find I am actually enjoying it?! My mind & sense of smell sure are powerful

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This can be done if you listen to the little voice in your head that keeps instructing you to eat the foods that are beneficial.


So true.  And, what a great post, Chloe.  I really like your posts, too, very informative.  You truly are a Teacher in more than genotype.  
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Thanks for that Chloe.  I need to remember that....
My difficult time is just after I get home from work.  Sometimes I feel like I can't stuff the food in fast enough.  It's not hunger...it's habit.  I'll think about what you've suggested and try harder.
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So true.  And, what a great post, Chloe.  I really like your posts, too, very informative.  You truly are a Teacher in more than genotype.  


Thanks...you're sweet Adam.....{{{hjugs}}}}



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Love it, Chloe! I crown you Queen of teachers!!!!! Great tips!!!!


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You may have to stretch that stomach a bit to get enough to eat.  It may be a bit uncomfortable since you have eaten so little for so long.


This point is a most important.

What about type O blood thickness? Is it too influenced by eating meat - or not eating meat? I remember that 28 years ago, when I told a vegetarian friend that I'd decided to stop eating meat, he strongly advised me to watch out and introduce the new diet gradually, because the a diet with no meat would affect the blood thinckness and make it thinner. If this is true, the opposite would happen in the reverse process.




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