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Spring
Saturday, March 16, 2013, 4:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It is Ok I understand the need to try a  load of things, but many of them can make people more obsessed and crazy over everything they ingest.

I understand you all think every time someone has a problem Lola and I scream " gut flora" ( kinda like saying fire)  I know but I do love you all so much that I want you to have healthy guts and feel so much better

I still have my fingers crossed, but this Jarrow enzyme that C Sharp recommended seems to be doing the trick for helping me digest these beans! I don't have all that bloating, etc., that so many seem to have, but these beans have been driving me nuts! I am with you about getting our stomachs "fixed" ASAP! Mine has served me very well since I got rid of corn, beef, etc., EXCEPT for these beans!

Of course, I already knew several other things I couldn't eat long before I knew about Dr. D. - such as milk products and ordinary bread. Since I was a teenager I had never eaten a sandwich with more than a half slice of bread. I just knew that I felt more comfortable eating them that way. Now I have found much more delicious things to make a sandwich occasionally!)


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Healthy gut flora is really the bottom line in healthy digestion.  Without it, everything else is like putting bandaids on a hole in the dam.

Even in a garden, without healthy microorganisms, it doesn't matter how much dirt you have, how much the sun shines, how much you water the plants - they won't thrive.

Getting a steady dose of Polyflora O in Marjorie's gut might be a very pleasant surprise for her.



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Saturday, March 16, 2013, 7:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I dont think it is candida over yeast overgrowth... I hardly eat any sugar. we are talking under 50 grams of carbs per day... come on now? This is not a sugar issue.

I do think that eating too many nightshades might make it worse.

food- definitely not going to eat the hummus! I think that made me bloated big time.

Today, I had an intense workout which I love and not going to stop-- then had a salad with half can of wild salmon, and a little bit of chicken... i know i said I would try not to eat chicken, but it was so yummy.

I am tired, but I do think that might have to do with chicken.

well-- just going to take one day at a time. lots of broccoli too
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Sunday, March 17, 2013, 12:34am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I know how important gut flora is but it's not something that can be fixed overnight, so some band aids for now might help. Of course we are all trying to fix our guts, that's why alot of us are here but it's also not as simple as popping a pill, one has to do the work, which is eating the right foods in the right quantities at the right time, etc for EACH individual. Taking a probiotic isn't going to solve it all if we don't eat the foods we digest and/ or eat them in the wrong quantities or at the wrong times, etc. I love my SWAMI but there are definately diamond foods that don't agree with me.I eliminate them and all the discomfort goes away. Everyones digestive systems are very different and that's where individuality and listening to your own body comes in. Though SWAMI is well worth every penny, it still needs to be tweaked. The amount of carbs I'm allowed are ridiculous for someone with blood sugar problems so I have eliminated fruit, juices and grains. They were never good for me, even when I was young. My point is, though we all need to constantly work on gut flora there are many things we can do to help that, like cooking fruit or avoiding it and not eating things that don't work for our own systems, not drinking too much water around meals etc, so maybe Marjorie could work on those for now as well.


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I know how important gut flora is but it's not something that can be fixed overnight, so some band aids for now might help. Of course we are all trying to fix our guts, that's why alot of us are here but it's also not as simple as popping a pill, one has to do the work, which is eating the right foods in the right quantities at the right time, etc for EACH individual. Taking a probiotic isn't going to solve it all if we don't eat the foods we digest and/ or eat them in the wrong quantities or at the wrong times, etc. I love my SWAMI but there are definately diamond foods that don't agree with me.I eliminate them and all the discomfort goes away. Everyones digestive systems are very different and that's where individuality and listening to your own body comes in. Though SWAMI is well worth every penny, it still needs to be tweaked. The amount of carbs I'm allowed are ridiculous for someone with blood sugar problems so I have eliminated fruit, juices and grains. They were never good for me, even when I was young. My point is, though we all need to constantly work on gut flora there are many things we can do to help that, like cooking fruit or avoiding it and not eating things that don't work for our own systems, not drinking too much water around meals etc, sop maybe Marjorie could work on those for now as well.


I totally agree with you here, Mother. When we had the other diets, and everyone knew what everyone else was "supposed" to eat, it caused a lot of friction when people started telling other people what all they should be eating, and it didn't matter whether it was bothering them or not. Thank goodness, we are delivered from most of that stuff now. Marjorie is working on a lot of different fronts right now about her health, besides everything else. Considering all that, I think she is doing pretty well. At least she is able to keep going! I remember only too well when I started taking probiotics the first time, I thought I was going to lose my mind with the worst headache I had ever had in my life! I was literally walking the floor. It was impossible to even THINK about food, let alone try to fix anything to eat! Eventually, things leveled out, and I was able to construct meals that were healthy. I have been taking probiotics for many years. Never missed a day since I took that first one.

But don't get me wrong, I know that Victoria is one of the smartest people around and has helped untold numbers of people! I am using several products she has recommended right now that I would be ready to fight for almost if I thought I couldn't get any more!

Just one other thought, maybe Marjorie's body is begging for a good cleaning out. I wonder if that would have helped me when I was going through all that initial suffering!


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Marjorie is doing a great job, especially all things considered. And Victoria certainly is a wealth of wonderful knowledge. I believe evryone is just offering up things that they have found works for them and hopefully may work for her too. I had been told over and over that O's can't eat too much meat of fat, well yes, they sure can. Beef does not sit nearly as well with me as lamb, elk or venison and I don't need them often, only 3 or 4 meals a week and  I need more fish. Chicken is a bennie on SWAMI but not in my gut. I think everyone offering there ideas gives Marjorie a lot of different things to try for herself. Sometimes we get in a rut and some simple thing makes all the difference. For me, eating small 4x a day and cutting way back on beef helped a lot. She has to listen to her own body but everyones ideas will give her things to try. I also hear "eat alot of this or that", so I did-bad. Now I eat them often but not alot. That type of thing. She will figure it out and this community should be able to help. BTW, I never meant to suggest she shouldn't take probiotics if she wanted to, just that other things may need to change as well.


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Quoted from Mother
I believe evryone is just offering up things that they have found works for them and hopefully may work for her too.

. . . I think everyone offering there ideas gives Marjorie a lot of different things to try for herself. Sometimes we get in a rut and some simple thing makes all the difference.


This is very true.  Generally, we all suggest either things that have worked well for us, or things that we have good reason to believe will be appropriate for someone else.  And ideally, when any of us recommend something, we never intend to come across as negating something another person has suggested.  

Just wishing the very best for everyone!  



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Ladies--

I appreciate all of your thoughts, feedback and help so much. I think my body is changing, and letting nature take it course will help.

yes, different options help however, in the long run, I will need to listen to myself. However, when I have been dealing with eating disorder, stress of school and just pure isolation of a phd program... I get hung up on what is "suppose" or "should" be. At least I am aware of it, and thanks for the encouragement. I wont give up on my health.

This is the healthiest I have been in terms of psychology with regards to weight and following some guidelines. It is who I am, I have spoken to others about having some structure when recovering from ED and it helps alot if it is the right structure.

Everyone has shared great thoughts, but I have to admit, smaller portions and eating more frequently seems to be the best option. Looking back, I was most content, at peace and focused with this lifestyle. now, I just have to implement it back into my life with my new school schedule.

I am going to look at this as an opportunity to PLAN and have fun with it as much as I can.

For me, I need simple, easy to prepare meals. I get anxiety in the kitchen (and start freaking out about what to eat or cook or make) not because I will eat too much but I get overwhelmed.

enough rambling, and thank you!!!
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Good luck, Marjorie! I will be away from my computer for the next few days, but I will be anxious to see how you are doing when I can! And you too, Mother!


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Great attitude Marjorie,
Just for now, for a week or two, if you love TJ's salmon and cod, just plan on salmon salads for breakfast and lunch (and snack/ another meal) and cod with salmon and broccoli or whatever veg for dinner. Eat that everyday for a few weeks. That will do two things, take out the guess work of trying to figure out what to eat AND act as an elimination diet.Nothing wrong with those foods, I could eat them everyday, and often do. Then as you add foods back in, you can look for reactions. If your body craves red meat or poultry in the mean time, switch out a meal and see how you do. I know when I need red meat so I eat it. Variety is good but sometimes too much can send us out on the wrong path and we don't know what's causing what reactions. For a few weeks, simplicity might help you figure things out.
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Quoted from Victoria
Healthy gut flora is really the bottom line in healthy digestion.  Without it, everything else is like putting bandaids on a hole in the dam.

Even in a garden, without healthy microorganisms, it doesn't matter how much dirt you have, how much the sun shines, how much you water the plants - they won't thrive.

Getting a steady dose of Polyflora O in Marjorie's gut might be a very pleasant surprise for her.





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I have polyfflora, fucus ( just ordered it and received) and 2 unibars which I already ate and LOVE.

I read the thread, but I am still not sure how this will help..is it the water balance issue? I am thinking if I cut back on the water intake, perhaps I wont need this?
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Just keep in mind that this supplement is available in case cutting back on water doesn't help, or doesn't help enough.

How are you feeling today?


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