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So sad for you!! I do understand re missing your Dad!  Just try to remember there are people on here that care about what happens to you!!

Marjorie, Possum is so right!!

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Marjorie, Possum is so right!!

Thanks ladies.

And.. my dad was like my best friend in many ways as I grew up.

Awesome guy.. and he was type o, so we sure clicked!

It is so hard to have to live without people we love. I used to feel that a lot of my heart was in cemeteries, but somehow we manage to renew, eventually, and go on with living. A saying, "life is for the living," has a special meaning to me. Actually, we don't really have any other option if we want to be a productive, successful, nurturing person. Being able to adapt is something that we can eventually find in ourselves - but, it goes without saying that it is a lot easier to adapt to some things/situations than others.

Marjorie, I hope you have better days soon. Take good care of yourself.

Yes, we renew and thank you Spring.

not sure how much the food and what i eat has to do with anything.. today, i had some beef for lunch and still was tired. maybe it will just take time for my body to adjust again.


I did have a great workout this am, though.

Definitely need to work on the fruit issue. I had a salad with beef which was ok, but did not love it.

then 2.5 hours later i had a pear and omg, totally, not feeling well. i always get bloated and miserable when i eat fruit. it really is annoying. i feel like the only time I can eat it is if i havent had any food in at least 4 hours.

well, now i know.

Pears (as well as apples) are of course higher in fructose And of course there is the double whammy of the fruit fermenting at a different rate to the meat & causing digestion to slow down...

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Pears (as well as apples) are of course higher in fructose And of course there is the double whammy of the fruit fermenting at a different rate to the meat & causing digestion to slow down...

UGH... and I kind of new something was off when I bought them, but was trying to be more flexible about this diet. I think the stress of limiting myself all the time can take a toll on me. however, the stress i feel right now because i am so bloated is not worth it.

so,... no fruit at all? ever? this seems so ridiculous to me, but i will do it if is the only way to health.

Yeah - personally I always prefer to feel less stress about limiting myself tbh, than to have to cope with the stress I feel when I am bloated or my sin breaks out etc That to me is way worse, as I then also have no energy either due to what is going on inside!! My skin reactions &/or bloated feeling is a sign that my guts are not happy, so imo not to be ignored...(& I love fruit, so it's not that I am just being picky or difficult)

All my life, fruit has caused pain, bloating and heartburn and yet I have loved it so much.  Finally I "got it" that I can't be eating fruit throughout the day and I can't use it as a snack food between meals.  I eat fruit only once a day and that is first thing in the morning as part of my smoothie.

But the way I make this work for me is once a week I cook a big pot (enough for a week or two) of diamond or superfood fruit until it is reduced down to 1/4 to 1/3 of what I started out with.  So for breakfast, I take my day's allowance for fruit, which is 3 servings or 3 cups, and is now reduced down to about 2/3 C.  That goes into my blender with ground flax and ground chia, some pineapple juice and water and a number of my other supplements (such as ARA6, Proberry, Chlorella and Camu Powder- for vitamin C)  I blend it into a great smoothie which has proteins, fats and my fruit carbs.  It sits real well in my stomach, lasts for hours and is very satisfying.

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All my life, fruit has caused pain, bloating and heartburn and yet I have loved it so much.  Finally I "got it" that I can't be eating fruit throughout the day and I can't use it as a snack food between meals.  I eat fruit only once a day and that is first thing in the morning as part of my smoothie.

But the way I make this work for me is once a week I cook a big pot (enough for a week or two) of diamond or superfood fruit until it is reduced down to 1/4 to 1/3 of what I started out with.  So for breakfast, I take my day's allowance for fruit, which is 3 servings or 3 cups, and is now reduced down to about 2/3 C.  That goes into my blender with ground flax and ground chia, some pineapple juice and water and a number of my other supplements (such as ARA6, Proberry, Chlorella and Camu Powder- for vitamin C)  I blend it into a great smoothie which has proteins, fats and my fruit carbs.  It sits real well in my stomach, lasts for hours and is very satisfying.

This sounds great. I am going to start a more strict regimen with the fruit. No, I cant just eat it whenever I want like others.. it makes me moody!

So, I will start making small portions of pineapple or bluberries that I can grab for one per day.

V- thanks, I want to start planning and preparing more foods for the week so i can just not obsess about what to eat so much.

Some people are allergic to basically all fruit...

Yep, I might be one of them honestly. Everytime I eat fruit, I am mad.

However, I still struggle with being ok with eating grass fed beef... why do so many people say that I will lose weight if I just switch to veganism again?

Marjorie, I'm sharing with the best of intentions here: you've been asking about eating meat or not eating meat for some time now. Many O's have suggested they feel better in many areas eating meat, yet you keep asking if it's right for you. You are the only one that can decide if you will feel better by following a path. If you feel you will lose weight and feel better by going against the advice set forth here for you from so many of the caring folks, then try it for yourself. But please report back about how you are doing, and don't just fall off the grid. We genuinely want to help you.

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However, I still struggle with being ok with eating grass fed beef... why do so many people say that I will lose weight if I just switch to veganism again?

First, these people are probably not aware of the knowledge that Dr. D. has provided to you.

Second, Even Dr. D. has said that Type O people may feel better short term by going vegetarian or vegan, but long-term do damage without the meat.

Third, about fruit - it is possible that the specific sugar in the fruit you are eating is stimulating cellular detox, which is making you feel so bad.  It is also possible that without doing this "cleaning", you will never lose the weight you think you need to lose...  Also, some of these things don't happen within a month or two...  Food for thought...

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First, these people are probably not aware of the knowledge that Dr. D. has provided to you.

Second, Even Dr. D. has said that Type O people may feel better short term by going vegetarian or vegan, but long-term do damage without the meat.

Third, about fruit - it is possible that the specific sugar in the fruit you are eating is stimulating cellular detox, which is making you feel so bad.  It is also possible that without doing this "cleaning", you will never lose the weight you think you need to lose...  Also, some of these things don't happen within a month or two...  Food for thought...

Right. Dr. D does know best. I also think listening to my body is going to provide answers.

Hmm... I remember I was 100 percent compliant about 2 years ago and fruit was ok in moderation. Great thought! Thanks Joe... you are so supportive.

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Marjorie, I'm sharing with the best of intentions here: you've been asking about eating meat or not eating meat for some time now. Many O's have suggested they feel better in many areas eating meat, yet you keep asking if it's right for you. You are the only one that can decide if you will feel better by following a path. If you feel you will lose weight and feel better by going against the advice set forth here for you from so many of the caring folks, then try it for yourself. But please report back about how you are doing, and don't just fall off the grid. We genuinely want to help you.

Thank you for your comments and I value your feedback. I have tried the veganism and yes, I did lose weight. However, I struggled with energy and staying focused. On the other hand, I felt lighter and "cleaner" per say without eating meat. I guess it is about finding a healthy balance which is my goal here I think getting feedback is a good thing.

Maybe you felt better on the vegan diet because you stopped eating dairy, or maybe because you stopped both dairy and eggs? Eggs are fine for Os in general, and are a very inexpensive source of protein, but some individuals simply don't do well on them.

Marjorie,
There are a few reasons why you may not be losing weight.
When your body fat ratio exceeds your muscle mass ratio, it will be extremely hard to lose unwanted weight in the right areas.
You must add muscle in order to lose weight faster, that simple.

As diet is concerned, you need carbohydrates in your diet. When you go 3+ days without carbohydrates the thyroid is becomes confused and body goes into starvation mode. At this point your body starts to break down muscle tissue and store fat.

Carbohydrates are good alone not mixed with protein. When you mix carbohydrates and protein directly, you create a large insulin spike in the body which equals again fat storage. Control your insulin spikes and do not eat carbs 3 hours before bed time.

Gosh, this seems so complicated as I get older. I feel like all I do is try to figure out how to lose weight... and I dont even know if I am overweight anymore!

I know I felt better with less weight on me, but who knows.


I thought carbs were the best for us o's.

See... it gets so confusing.

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Maybe you felt better on the vegan diet because you stopped eating dairy, or maybe because you stopped both dairy and eggs? Eggs are fine for Os in general, and are a very inexpensive source of protein, but some individuals simply don't do well on them.

hm... I think the eggs are ok. Definitely not the dairy though. IDK, I am tired of analyzing it

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it gets so confusing.

I agree it is confusing.  And a lot of information may be really good but not work for everyone so you have to just try different things and see what works for you.  I would think that the fact that you are only 5 pounds overweight shows that a lot of what you are doing is beneficial for you.  If you feel beef makes you feel heavy try other compliant meats.  I seem to do best with eating beef less and turkey and cod more but that's just me personally and may not be true for you.  If you think nuts might bother you cut your servings in half...over time that would probably take care of the 5 extra pounds.  And your feeling better weighing less may not be because of your diet but some other factor.  My Mom had RA and felt much better when she weighed less.  When you get feeling overwhelmed sometimes a brisk walk or some other physical activity can really help ease the anxiety.  I hope you can find some answers that work for you and not feel so perplexed anymore.

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I agree it is confusing.  And a lot of information may be really good but not work for everyone so you have to just try different things and see what works for you.  I would think that the fact that you are only 5 pounds overweight shows that a lot of what you are doing is beneficial for you.  If you feel beef makes you feel heavy try other compliant meats.  I seem to do best with eating beef less and turkey and cod more but that's just me personally and may not be true for you.  If you think nuts might bother you cut your servings in half...over time that would probably take care of the 5 extra pounds.  And your feeling better weighing less may not be because of your diet but some other factor.  My Mom had RA and felt much better when she weighed less.  When you get feeling overwhelmed sometimes a brisk walk or some other physical activity can really help ease the anxiety.  I hope you can find some answers that work for you and not feel so perplexed anymore.

This is true, at least I am not obese.

And.. maybe just switching things up a bit will shift things. I just started incorporating more food due to economical issues so it just might take some time for the fat to disappear.

Thanks for helping.

And...for sure,  I love fish. It is my favorite.

5 lbs is not very much; I can fluctuate within 5 lbs quite easily. I mostly go by how my clothes fit and what I look like without clothes.