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jackster
Monday, February 11, 2013, 8:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have been following the ER4YT since September 2012 and have lost a total of one, count them, one pound!!!!
I have gone strict whole food vegetarian.  I buy all my food fresh and eat 95% raw.  I do not eat any fast or convenience foods and I also eat zero junk.  As much organic as I can buy.

Here is my issue.  If I am an A- and am following a very strict Type A diet, why am I still so fat?  I am not obese but a good 40lbs more than I should be.  

I walk everywhere.  I have a job that involves bending, stretching and climbing.  I drink huge amounts of water.  I take my vitamins and probiotics.  I am getting very very discouraged.  Today I had a beef sausage and it was good, but now I feel kind of nausiated.

What can I do that will help?  What am I doing wrong?  I AM following it to a tee and am getting rather weary of the zero results.  

Yes, I feel better, my breathe is better and my body seems happier, but I am still to heavy.

I do not have a CC to order a secretion test.  I looked at the Geno type diet but have no one to help mesure me so I took it back to the library.  I am almost ready to try slimfast,,, lord help me.......

Any suggestions?

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sorry you feel this way

I would try harder if I were you

we have all gone through harsh times
find out more about your biochemical individuality, therein lie the answers to finetune out guidelines
Rome wasn t built in a day

why would you be eating beef sausage?

try this easy quiz, to get you started in the right path
http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

tell us what your result was


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It is possible that you are consuming too many carbs (certain grains, certain fruits). High carbs can turn your fuel into fat and mess with your blood sugar.
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Jackster, I know how you feel. Being an A myself it's very difficult to loose weight. My personal experience is that eating grains (no matter how compliant) will hinder your weightloss. If you really want the weight to come off, take the grains to a minimum.

Furthermore, I don't particularly see the need to eat everything raw. You can cook some of your veggies (or stirfry) and give your body not so much work on digesting it. What also works is how much you eat during the day, big breakfast, smaller lunch and the least calories at dinner.

Also no need to go completely vegetarian, you can have some chicken or turkey every now and then. I think you will need more protein. Can you give an example on what your day looks like meals wise?
Also do you eat a lot of fruit?




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Yes, I feel better, my breathe is better and my body seems happier, but I am still to heavy.


Any suggestions?



It seems to be working. You feel better and so on.

There are several possibilities for why you have not lost weight, yet. They range from the body 'fixing some things before it fixes others' to more medical things like thyroid.
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Keep at it a bit longer. Follow the diet but don't be so harsh on yourself that you can't follow it! Suggestions above including the stir-fry, carbs, some fish and so on all have merit.

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I'm sorry for your disappointment in the A diet.  Many people have achieved success so perhaps
we could help you troubleshoot.

Would you mind sharing what you've been eating?  It's possible you're not eating enough vegetables and overeating starchy carbs or not measuring portions properly or overdoing portions of one food group.

How about giving us a few days meals.


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One could assume that you were a Non secretor and you therefore have to reduce grain and protein from whatever you are allowed. fish and the like.

You have to be extra compliant when you are a Nonnie.

when you say you don't have the CC do you mean credit card or cash? you can use a debit card to order most things these day.

How old are?


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as being a nonnie- yup augment protein intake and slow down to max. with all carbs !!!

I know you're going for success then  


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I would croak if I ate a vegetarian diet, and I am not kidding!!! I lost forty pounds with hardly any trouble at all. I eat fish, turkey and lamb. Lots of veggies and sweet potatoes. Snack on peanut and almond butters and several kinds of fruits. And all of this is on my diet!!


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jackster
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Thank you all for your responses.
To start with what I eat,, well, it is the same everday so here goes.

Breakfast- Slow cooked oatmeal with organic palm brown sugar and unsweetened soy milk.
Ginseng green tea with either stevia or royal jelly honey.

Snack- An apple with peanut butter.  or an large handful of seeds.

Lunch- A huge salad of spinach, carrots, celery, mushrooms, cucumber, walnuts, raisins and a home made dressing of silken tofu, garlic, mustard powder and roaly jelly honey.  Water or coffee, black.

For dinner is the kicker.  Every night is juice.  I use my juicer to make it.  Grapefruit (3), carrots (3), beets (2 small), blueberries (1 cup) and 1/2 a large pineapple. I drink this over the evening.  In 2 glasses I add 4 ounces of white wine with the fruit mix.  

Evening snack is always pumpkin seeds.  Roasted and salted because I am addicted to them.

Some days, maybe 2 times a week I will have a beer with my husband.


Okay, past that, I am 51 years old, white and have a long long history of dieting.  I did Atkins and gained 8 pounds.  I gained weight in the delivery room,,,, twice!  The only diet that ever really worked for me was starvation. I quit smoking 5 years ago and all hell broke loose.  I gained the 40 pounds in under 9 months.  I had a lot of loss during this time, my Mother, my Father in law, my brother, sister in law, 2 nephews and a grand daughter.  The weight came on hard and heavy.

Now I am trying to get it off, and I really do feel better but it is not budging.  I am eating very very pure foods and today I ate a beef sausage.  I feel bad but I also feel it was myself being rebelious against myself??? if that made sense?

My husband is an type O, so I make him meat meals all the time and the organic, grass fed and finished sausage was just sitting there so alone,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,okay, I gave in to temtation,,, plus I dipped it in ketchup, argh!!!!

Honestly, I think I am following the diet.  I eat zero foods with moms and dads (minus today) and I eat limited sugars.  I am a compulsive label reader and if it contains MSG, aspertame or words I don't know, I don't have it in the house.

I am a virgo type A,,, if you have ever met one like me you will understand when we get on something, it becomes our religion.  Other than todays beef sausage, there has not even been a taste of the meat soup I make for my husband.

I have read and reread that book and printed off the sheets to shop with.  

CC means no credit card.  I just don't want one.  I would like to test for non secretor but can not.

I will try anything you all offer out to me.  Every thing is welcome.
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My guess is you are a nonnie & an explorer, especially after your comment re msg etc... So what Spring said will apply!! All the best!!
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I would say not enough protein. In all of the SWAMI reports that I have seen, the area that mentions sweeteners of any kind, says 0 - 1 tsp. daily as needed. You are consuming more than that on a daily basis. My A friend put on a lot of weight from juicing carrot and beets, too much sugar in the system she felt. Now she juices cucumbers, celery, romaine etc with 1/4 of small beet and one carrot.  
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eating the same thing everyday is a bad idea.

maybe not enough protein.

that juice and wine mixture for dinner is bad timing. spiking your blood sugar and late in the day. double whammie.

sounds like you have some emotional issues that may be causing you to hold onto the weight as well.

also, if you are too toxic, body will hold the toxins in the fat.

you don't have to be a vegan as an A.

also, make sure you are getting B12/B complex. look for a whole foods one. magnesium might also be something to search on this site. 80-90% are deficient and anxiety/stress often accompanies deficiency. stress burns all of these up quickly.

if you have a gluten issue, the oatmeal can possibly be sabatoging you. look at quinoa instead.

just observations. you have to find what works for you. that you were so drawn to that meat makes me think protein and B12 and also to watch your adrenals. that religious type thing, you have to watch it or you can burn out.

best to you. no reason to "quit" - it's just about tweaking habits into ones that finally work for you. it's not a diet, it's a life long change of patterns. do your best to relax and enjoy the process.

or quit.
it's ALWAYS your choice.

you might look into Bach Flower Remedies. google them, they sell them at health food stores. could take the edge off.

just my 5 cents.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Oh my that night time juice   is filled with sugar. You are having sugar at every meal. Why not do a veggie shake instead of a fruit one.

And where is the protein at night?


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The only time I bother with juicing or anything in that category, such as putting the veggies in my blender and drinking the whole thing without straining, is in the summer as a pick-up after working in my yard and sweating during the summer. Otherwise I DO NOT juice. Your intestines NEED a good workout! Sugar, except what is in my allowed portions of fruit, is no where to be seen in my house!! I have a little agave, maple syrup or beet syrup by the TEASPOON occasionally! I do not do well eating rice even though it is on my diet if I am trying to lose weight. Beans such as Great Northern, Navy and Pinto will stop any weight loss in its tracks if I overdo them. I do love them, though, and I do well if I simply watch my servings! I only add herbs and sea salt to mine. Delicious!


To me, a weight loss diet is simple. I do the things I mentioned above. If my weight loss slacks off, I simply eat smaller servings. But, believe me, I do not go around hungry! If I happen to need a boost in energy, I have a slice of fresh pineapple or a little watermelon. Works like magic. What do you mean by "half a large pineapple?" Wow!!! To the nth! Every single thing in your list for that drink contains sugar. No doubt, it tastes wonderful, but you are killing any chances of losing weight with that concoction. Instead, eat a piece of fish or a turkey burger with plenty of turmeric and other seasonings, a medium sized baked sweet potato and a huge salad with an olive oil, lemon (if you like it) and some nice herbs dressing. BTW, I am allowed very few soy products. Have a tad of ghee on your potato (however, I have mine plain because they are so delicious!).

I would think that you are bored mindless with eating the same thing every day. No wonder you succumbed to the sausage temptation! Believe me, I LOVE good sausages, but I avoid them like the plague. Nothing under the sun is worth that pain. But you need some staples around that will help you feel better not worse. Even a teaspoon of almond butter or peanut butter can taste like heaven under those circumstances, and they are very satisfying.

I am sorry about all the trauma that has been in your life in such a short period of time. I had a lot of losses one after the other like you, and it is very hard to look after yourself. But now it is time for you to do that. They would not have wanted it any other way. I finally came to the age-old conclusion that life is for the living, and we may as well make the most of it as we can. Take care of yourself.


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jackster, if you get a chance, check out these links...Stress will raise cortisol levels and that all by
itself can hinder weight loss.  I would suggest meditation, tai chi, qi gong....all good calming things for
blood type A individuals.

But maybe just check out this info.

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

http://www.dadamo.com/program_weight.htm

http://www.dadamo.com/bloodtype_A.htm


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Oh my that night time juice   is filled with sugar. You are having sugar at every meal. Why not do a veggie shake instead of a fruit one.

And where is the protein at night?
Not to mention the alcohol added to each glass (more sugars)

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I feel for anyone who goes through the hard times of discouragements.. Nothing is so draining then the feeling of failure... PLEASE know no matter what YOU are NOT to blame.. sometimes it is just the body not cooperating..  

What country are you in?  What are the illnesses in your family?  Until you see the connection between what we knew and what is, and what will be in future, you will just have to decide what it is you wish for..

I am impossible to drop weight, yet I feel so much healthier and so I stay the course.  I know I postponed the onset of diabetes by a decade or more, I made me feel more energized then ever and still I have big issues.  

I posted today about Diabetes and neuropathy, you might read that just to show you how much we fight with.. and doctors never talk about it..

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1360566951/s-new/#num1

Give your self the amount of selfpity sorry time as you need, then start fresh again.. there is always a good day ahead.. go for it.

    


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jackster, if you get a chance, check out these links...Stress will raise cortisol levels and that all by
itself can hinder weight loss.  I would suggest meditation, tai chi, qi gong....all good calming things for
blood type A individuals.

But maybe just check out this info.

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

http://www.dadamo.com/program_weight.htm

http://www.dadamo.com/bloodtype_A.htm



Agree.

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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Oh my that night time juice   is filled with sugar. You are having sugar at every meal. Why not do a veggie shake instead of a fruit one.

And where is the protein at night?


Totally agree.

Two beers a week???? That's two beers too many.

Way too much sugar. Way too much fruit.

Try something else for breakfast like a poached egg and some veggies.

I lost 15 lbs on this WOE, but it took about 6 years.

And what about exercise?


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It took you 9 months to gain 40 lbs and you've been following ERFYT for 6 months.  You feel better, breathe better and you notice your body is happier. Don't worry, you'll find your ideal weight.  


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Hi, Jackster

Great advise here.  One year is not a proper "yardstick" for this lifestyle.  It seems to be a constant adding and subtracting of foods.  You are finding that out.  Give yourself credit for eating right and feeling better.  That goes a long way.

I was eating A type foods for a long time but didn't lose any weight.  I had other issues that were distracting me.  Don't point the finger at only food.  We are all very complex.

Regular exercise is something to consider.  I've had a "jumpstart rebounder" for a month.  I know I've lost inches but maybe not too many pounds.  That's ok.  When I use it in the AM I feel better during the day - mentally, emotionally, physically.  

It's impossible to take it all in in "one fell swoop"  Just digest what you can.  It's all about learning and that's what we are all doing every day.

Good luck.

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Jackster,

Lots of good, important advice..trust me when I say please take advantage of all of our experiences! You will find what is best for you.  
Nothing wrong with eating raw..I do eat some foods raw, but, your body might be telling you to change it up. I learned to rotate my foods so I reduced the risk of allergy to any one item( such as: I quit eating toast every single morning)
My A- friend absolutely has to have some turkey, fish and lamb to be her best and keep weight off! I agree that if you are RH negative and/or a nonnie, you need a little lamb and naturally some fish!
I did not lose weight on the A diet..only when I went to Geno type diet then swami, but then I never drank beer, white wine or all the sugars you eat.
After swami my weight just fell off!


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Jackster,
if you're in the Kelowna near me (Kamloops), then if you need to order anything, I order my Bloodtype
stuff from http://www.aboessentials.com in Toronto.



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You need to add good fats and complete protein for each meal including snack.

I am blood type A and Swami Teacher.
I was not be able digest fat and also was told I should not eat fat. So I was completely off the fat for a long time. After I started this Swami diet, now I know fat is not the problem, it is beef or chicken protein. I added good fat from olive oil, coconut oil, avocado and raw nuts.
Then I lost all unwanted visceral fat, heals better from infection and more energy.
I used see doctor regulary for low white blood count over 3 years. Lab test confirmed white blood cell count is above normal and I do not have to see doctor for that.
I will be 70 years old in July and play single tennis game 3 times a week and swim outdoor pool almost everyday.

You get complete protein from animal meat, egg or fish. Otherwise you have to combine foods to make it complete protein. Indian has long history and experience on this otherwise it requires lots of knowledge.

Please do not give up. It is in your hand.
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for my opinion you are lacking enormously aminoacids!!! Go and google about MAP, this is a good option to drop all sugars and I'd reverse also the intake of fruit juices to the morning intake. No alcohol at all for a while, and a positive attitude to yourselve
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[quote=28875]Thank you all for your responses.
To start with what I eat,, well, it is the same everday so here goes.

Breakfast- How much oatmeal? Skip the palm brown sugar soy milk, use water

Ginseng green tea skip the stevia and royal jelly honey.

Snack- An apple with peanut butter.  or an large handful of seeds.

Lunch- A huge salad of spinach, carrots, celery, mushrooms, cucumber, walnuts, raisins and a home made dressing of silken tofu, garlic, mustard powder and roaly jelly honey.  Water or coffee, black.

For dinner is the kicker.  Every night is juice.  I use my juicer to make it.  Grapefruit (3), carrots (3), beets (2 small), blueberries (1 cup) and 1/2 a large pineapple. I drink this over the evening.  In 2 glasses I add 4 ounces of white wine with the fruit mix.  

Evening snack is always pumpkin seeds.  Roasted and salted because I am addicted to them. small cup of the hand only and stop salting them.

Some days, maybe 2 times a week I will have a beer with my husband.


Honestly, I think I am following the diet - Good one The diet is about portion size as well as eating the right foods.  

you are addicted to sugar it has replaced the cigarettes no doubt.



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I think you eat too many carbs. I would cut the grains and limit the fruits and do secretor test (if possible). Good luck. I hope you can make this work!


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It sounds like you've gotten some good advice so far about specific changes to make to your diet. I don't think I can add to it.

I do want to point out, though, that sometimes our bodies don't lose weight when we want them do. Improve your diet and exercise, and your body may choose to do some healing before letting go of excess fat. You did mention having more energy, right?

Also, many women find it difficult to lose weight during menopause. All of our bodies are a little bit different- by age 51, some women are past menopause and already have balanced hormones, others are just getting started, and others are  right in the thick of it. If hormonal imbalance is part of your problem, diet will help somewhat but you also may benefit from hormone-balancing herbs or bioidentical hormones. It's something to look into if things don't settle down after a few weeks of lower carb/higher protein.


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Too much fruit and way too late in the day. Eat your fruits in the morning otherwise your body will not be able to burn off all during the day. Now you eat a lot of sugar in the evening. Not a good thing. Try eating some yoghurt in the evening.

Also try to incorporate some veggies like Cauliflower, brocolli etc. Stirfry them in some olive oil if you don't want to really cook them. And do eat some chicken or turkey every now and then. You need more protein.

And again, breakfast like a King, Lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper. That works for A's. We have a slow metabolism and our body needs time to digest and burn food. Don't eat after 8 PM unless of course you go to bed at 3 in the morning. Stop eating 3 to 4 hours before you go to bed.




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Once again thank you everyone.  

Seeing the responses was an eye opener.  1st off, I never put 2 and 2 together
about the amount of fruit.  I looked at the list of what I could have and went with it.

I am excited for some turkey but will be closely watching my amounts.  
The beer and wine are now gone, even though wine is neutral.  I just don't like the taste of
full strength wine.
I will be ordering a secretion test on payday.
Toronto looks good for purchases,,, thank you Kamloops

Because I was not using any table sugar etc, other than a tbs. on my morning oatmeal of organic brown palm sugar, I thought
I was doing okay.  Sometimes it just pays to open it up so other people can help you break through.  I like the way this plan has made me feel and am super stoked to see how I do without all the extra sugars and some turkey.  My portion sizes are going to change as well.  

This morning I had a poached organic egg on a peice of gluten free toast.  Ginseg green tea straight up and it was awsome.    I take a B-complex plus a B12 (methylcobalamin) strip at 1000mgs, a high quality fish oil (because I just can't eat fish) , Vitamins A, C, D and E, plus milk thistle.  I take a calcium magnesium supplement but am going to buy the recommended Aquamin (in the ER4YT book).  My probiotic is Ultimate Flora 50 billion and I take it twice a day.
This vitamin therapy has been going on for years with the Probiotics introduced about 1 1/2 months ago.  I also rub my feet with magnesium oil twice a week.

I am excited to have all this get realigned.  You people have given me something to grab a hold of.  I might even get a full nights sleep without the evening sugar blast.

I will also no longer call this a diet, it is my new way of living, my lifestyle.  Everything just changed.........Everything.  Thank you

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Jackster, you nailed it. Good luck, and keep posting your progress. This could be interesting!  
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What a happy update!


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Great news, Jackster!!! Hang in there, girl, you are ready to roll!!!


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For dinner is the kicker.  Every night is juice.  I use my juicer to make it.  Grapefruit (3), carrots (3), beets (2 small), blueberries (1 cup) and 1/2 a large pineapple. I drink this over the evening.  In 2 glasses I add 4 ounces of white wine with the fruit mix.  


I think it's insulin resistance and the jucie you're drinking for dinner is totally shooting your blood sugar sky high.  You probably should stop the juice for dinner and eat fish or tofu or even turkey.
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Great news Jackster...what a difference a day makes!  Good job!~  


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It's great that you reached out for help and now you are taking it to another level. It will be so nice when you post about all of the positive changes you are experiencing!  
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Thanks everyone for being so helpful to this person. I would only add that lowering stress/ cortisol always seems to remove roadblocks to type A's who have plateaued with their weight loss goals.  


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Thanks everyone for being so helpful to this person. I would only add that lowering stress/ cortisol always seems to remove roadblocks to type A's who have plateaued with their weight loss goals.  


Amen to that. I was trying to address that in the last paragraph of one of my posts. Multiple tragedies and the heroic effort to quit smoking --- who could hold up under that without a high cost..... I've never smoked, but I know people who have gone through that awful stress. But there was a period in my life that it began to look like everyone we knew was going to die. Before things began to look better we had lost nearly twenty-five relatives and friends. I know older people face a lot of losses, but we were in our forties. It got to the point that I didn't know how to live without being charged up on cortisol. The first few times I took Cortiguard I thought I was having a severe hypoglycemic attack!

Truthfully, I think I would be dead if it had not been for these diets that I was fortunate enough to learn about. No doubt, many others on the forum feel the same way.


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Truthfully, I think I would be dead if it had not been for these diets that I was fortunate enough to learn about. No doubt, many others on the forum feel the same way.


Same here! However I do not seem to be able to get rid of the stress since it's from an outside source, that besides the worries about my mother, work and so many other things. I do try, however, to do some relaxing exercises every evening. Unfortunately I don't succeed every day.

Is it a characteristic of A's to worry about everything?




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Is it a characteristic of A's to worry about everything?

Some A's definitely worry about everything, but not all do...  My mom was very relaxed as is my daughter...  My WW often tends to worry about all the bad things that "may" happen - even more so than things that do happen.


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Your supplements should focus on stress reduction. I would change over to other things that will have more benefit for the time being.


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I am an A that used to worry and stress out over things but I learned to stop. I've learned to remind myself that worry never made anything better. I've also learned to hear what my inner voice is telling me and asking myself if it's true.


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Ditto what Grey rabbit said!
Love cortiguard for stress, also!


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combine foods to make it complete protein
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
the exception is soy protein which is a complete protien and an plant protien


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I think I saw that on Dr. Oz. He recomended it for sleeping instead of sleeping Rx. I've never tried it.
Hmmm.
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I can hardly function at all if I take ashwagandha during the day. It makes me relax all right! I can't remember it helping me sleep at night, though. Strange.


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My mom said I was a born worry wort. Now that I'm retired and have heart problems, I work on being more relaxed and not worried about everything.
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To recount:
"Okay, past that, I am 51 years old, white and have a long long history of dieting.  I did Atkins and gained 8 pounds.  I gained weight in the delivery room,,,, twice!  The only diet that ever really worked for me was starvation. I quit smoking 5 years ago and all hell broke loose.  I gained the 40 pounds in under 9 months.  I had a lot of loss during this time, my Mother, my Father in law, my brother, sister in law, 2 nephews and a grand daughter. The weight came on hard and heavy."
If she is swamped with "worry" it doesn't seem to be coming through in this post. Calling severe trauma a simple "worry" seems somewhat "off" to me.


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I just started taking ashwaganda again (the one that Gaia manufactures) and it really seems to be helping me.

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I am an A that used to worry and stress out over things but I learned to stop. I've learned to remind myself that worry never made anything better. I've also learned to hear what my inner voice is telling me and asking myself if it's true.


Yes, that's my experience too and I've rather trained myself to make mental choices...picking and
choosing what's most logical....also asking myself IF the worse case scenario happened, then what?
When I realize most of my worries are about my fear being projected into the future and not about me living in this moment, I start to see where I have faulty thinking.  I start to see where worrisome
thoughts come from.....and at that point, I actually CHOOSE to be living in the now....when everything
IS just fine. I remember thinking when they predicted this last storm that we could get high winds.
Immediately I conjured up high winds and trees blowing so hard that one actually fell on the roof,
and that a humongous tree went through the kitchen....tearing up the whole room.  I imagined myself actually being in the kitchen when it happened....looking around in an apocalyptic environment....everything decimated and and us freezing to death.  When I realized it was my insanely wild imagination going through this drama, I said to myself "STOP, change these thoughts".....and suddenly I was taken back to realizing this was simply a weather report I was
reacting to and not a reality of the present moment at all!




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Maybe we need to start a separate thread about worry!  


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I'm a worrier too - especially when I can't sleep in the middle of the night.  I've gotten better too but I still tend to see "the possibilities."
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I can hardly function at all if I take ashwagandha during the day. It makes me relax all right! I can't remember it helping me sleep at night, though. Strange.


That's what I was afraid of ... too strong...    We A's are so sensitive
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I went to a psychic when I was younger and she told me I worry too much. Hey it's an Italian thing. She said I was a worry wort and to stop it!  I didn't even realize I was a worrier   until she said it..
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I just started taking ashwaganda again (the one that Gaia manufactures) and it really seems to be helping me.

Joy



MF why not give it a try not all A's have will have the same effect

It has so many benefits that it is a shame not to take advantage of it.


Really good for us A's--- take it at night if it makes you sleepy.

It is in Attentia too.



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Yes, that's my experience too and I've rather trained myself to make mental choices...picking and
choosing what's most logical....also asking myself IF the worse case scenario happened, then what?
When I realize most of my worries are about my fear being projected into the future and not about me living in this moment, I start to see where I have faulty thinking.  I start to see where worrisome
thoughts come from.....and at that point, I actually CHOOSE to be living in the now....when everything
IS just fine. I remember thinking when they predicted this last storm that we could get high winds.
Immediately I conjured up high winds and trees blowing so hard that one actually fell on the roof,
and that a humongous tree went through the kitchen....tearing up the whole room.  I imagined myself actually being in the kitchen when it happened....looking around in an apocalyptic environment....everything decimated and and us freezing to death.  When I realized it was my insanely wild imagination going through this drama, I said to myself "STOP, change these thoughts".....and suddenly I was taken back to realizing this was simply a weather report I was
reacting to and not a reality of the present moment at all!

Chloe, you have described me a few years ago!  I too have to stop and take a reality check, I have a very vivid imagination & would tend toward "worst case scenario" preparation which I used to think would help me at some stage be ready for anything... however i was so stressed out preparing for the worst all the time & "the worst" rarely, if ever, happened.
Yoga helped me practice being in the present, meditation is a must for me!  I tell myself, "right now i am ok, i am calm and safe". that does the trick most times
Stress is an A's enemy on every level.

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Hello All.
I just wanted to give a wee bit of an update.

In the last week after eliminating wine, beer and over doses of fruit juice, here is what has happened.

I have lost 3 pounds.  Now this may not seem like a lot but it is, it really is.
I bought a rebounder and use it every day that I am not working (manual job).
I am grounding/ earthing with a home made unit that lives under my feet while I am at the computer.  I thought it might be better than adding any more pills.  It makes me tingle, kind of cool.
AND I am eating turkey.  Gawd how I missed turkey.  It kind of took me off guard when an organic bird cost $135.00.  But we deboned it and cooked the whole thing and now have enough turkey to last 6 months.

Question......  Can we A's have saki and wasabi?  We have been invited out to a new sushi bar and would like to try both.

There are some here that are thinking I maybe still reeling from the large losses I have had.  Well, yes, but I know enough to cry when I have to and that really does help.  Thank you for your concern, I really do appreciate it and all of you.


Going to try Taichi with my husband this upcoming weekend.  This will be interesting.  And for the first time in 6 years, we are planning on going to the Coast to have a bit of a vacation.  I can not wait to dip my feet into ocean water.
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Progress!  

Feels kind of liberating, doesn't it?
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In the last week after eliminating wine, beer and over doses of fruit juice, here is what has happened.

I have lost 3 pounds.  Now this may not seem like a lot but it is, it really is.
I bought a rebounder and use it every day that I am not working (manual job).
I am grounding/ earthing with a home made unit that lives under my feet while I am at the computer.  I thought it might be better than adding any more pills.  It makes me tingle, kind of cool.
AND I am eating turkey.  Gawd how I missed turkey.  It kind of took me off guard when an organic bird cost $135.00.  But we deboned it and cooked the whole thing and now have enough turkey to last 6 months.

Going to try Taichi with my husband this upcoming weekend.  This will be interesting.  And for the first time in 6 years, we are planning on going to the Coast to have a bit of a vacation.  I can not wait to dip my feet into ocean water.


You are taking some very good steps - keep up the good work!  

I thought you might enjoy browsing this long thread on the benefits of rebounding.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xr4yt/m-1162675148/s-0/



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Congrats on the changes & the results!!
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Kudos for making those changes that you mentioned.  Self-motivation will take you to the next step.

I took Tai-Chi many years ago.  It was kind of rigorous but let me just say I had a toned body. And I loved it (although probably didn't appreciate enough at the time).  Never mind.  That and the rebounder will help with balance and do "your computer (my word for brain)" alot of good.  

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Enjoy your changes.

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What a wonderful update!

For wasabi, I'd follow the recommendations for horseradish.  http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?203 Sake is considered a "distilled liquor" (avoid for As) but it's also brewed from rice, which is compliant.

If you're overall eating well, you can probably afford the occasional "imperfect food choices" in a social setting. One or two cups of sake is a reasonable "cheat" but I'd avoid "getting drunk."


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I always thought sake was more like wine, or maybe you could have some plum wine instead of sake, still goes very well with sushi.


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Quoted from grey rabbit
I always thought sake was more like wine, or maybe you could have some plum wine instead of sake, still goes very well with sushi.


Sake is Japanese wine made from fermented rice.



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Sake is served hot and in teeny tiny cups- like ceramic shot glasses. My Dad used to have a sake set. I wonder what happened to it?

In any case, the size of the sake cup makes me think it's more like rice liquor than rice wine, in terms of strength. I still hold by my recommendations above- that it's fine once in a while as  a special treat.


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I've been doing a quick search on sake, using the question - Is sake distilled spirits or wine?  The common answer seems to be that it is NOT wine, since it is not made from fruit at all.  Several sites I went to say that it is closer to a beer because it is made from grain and because of how it is made.  One site I went to called it distilled.

So at this point, I have to say that it isn't wine and is close to beer and may possibly be considered distilled.  

Also, the general opinion seems to be that only inferior grade sake is served hot.  The more refined the rice, the better the grade.

Edited to add:
This link has some very clear info on what sake is, how it is made, the different grades and when it might be considered distilled (due to the addition of distilled spirits).
http://www.liquoranddrink.com/ingredients/712-sake



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So, plum wine to the rescue! Great with sushi.


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