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Jennadodge, I agree with DoS about the estrogen/soy discussion, but....again we are all individuals with differing needs, and I am one type A that can only tolerate a little soy at a time. I don't remember who it is but I know there is one other A person on this forum that is like me. I tried all forms of soy and got the same reaction....terrible stomach aches. it actually made me nauseated. I will drink a bit of organic soy milk in my coffee ( about 3-4 cups per week) and I eat a small handful of soy nuts once a week...only because I know they are good for me.  I cannot do tofu or soy beans...even though they are diamonds on my swami! Its ok, there are so many other diamond foods I love on my swami! The beauty of "one size does not fit all!" |
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Thank you everyone, and welcome Julie!
I am 28 and live in Oregon - just moved here from Montana. I will be attending ND school starting in the fall of 2013 so that is the reason for the move.
I will go ahead and do SWAMI. I'd like to give this the best chance possible so that it will work for me. I do have to say, I am loving having oatmeal for breakfast instead of eggs/bacon!
I know I will need help figuring out what to eat on a daily basis - meal plans, recipes, etc. I've been eating paleo for so long that I don't remember "normal" eating!
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jennadodge |
| Saturday, December 8, 2012, 2:42am |
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Thanks DoS. Is there a particular type of Soy Protein to look for (isolate vs. whatever else? I haven't even looked yet)? And is organic, commercially produced soymilk OK?
Looking forward to testing Secretor status (test is in the mail!) and SWAMI as well. Thanks |
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| Saturday, December 8, 2012, 6:46pm |
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I don't remember who it is but I know there is one other A person on this forum that is like me. I tried all forms of soy and got the same reaction....terrible stomach aches.
Might be me! - but there are plenty of suitable proteins. I've had a session of being off anything green - wanting red and orange instead and preferably cooked - possibly due to winter.... though managed 3 cooked Brussel sprouts today along with a mash of squash [wish we could get more pumpkin in UK] carrot, celery and a bit of potato [tut tut] plus codfish. |
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| Saturday, December 8, 2012, 8:27pm |
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Jenna why not come to the conference in June?
I'll look into it for sure! |
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jennadodge |
| Saturday, December 8, 2012, 8:31pm |
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Also, FWIW, I used to drink soymilk (in my cereal) about 10 years ago, when I first went to college. I started thinking about it the other day and I ate very A-like, even though I had no idea what that was, at that time. The meat in the dorms grossed me out and I was very much into health foods so I ate cereal (low-sugar but don't remember the exact type) with soy milk for breakfast, and then lunch was always a salad with tuna - big salad, lots of nuts on top too. I don't recall dinners but if it was a meat, it would have been chicken. I think I maybe had another big salad. Once I started cooking for myself I would do rice and veggies with fish. Even today, when we eat meat in the house, I make my husband prepare it - I don't like to touch it raw. Maybe I have been fighting my A tendencies all along!
Anyway, when I was eating the way listed above, freshman in college, I actually LOST 15 pounds - did the opposite of the freshman 15! So maybe there is something to it.
Have never had a bad reaction to soy but I haven't had it literally in years so it will be interesting to try again. |
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| Saturday, December 8, 2012, 8:59pm |
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And is organic, commercially produced soymilk OK?
Look at the ingredients for whatever you are considering... There are many avoid oils and gums added to many commercial products, but there may be some that are acceptable to you. |
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| Sunday, December 9, 2012, 8:57am |
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Thanks DoS. Is there a particular type of Soy Protein to look for (isolate vs. whatever else? I haven't even looked yet)? And is organic, commercially produced soymilk OK?
Looking forward to testing Secretor status (test is in the mail!) and SWAMI as well. Thanks
Actually I recommend Tofu and Tempeh because they are packed full of nutrients like iron, magnesium, etc. Otherwise for protein powders it doesn't matter much. I'd just avoid the ones mixed with avoids. (Dr. D's one has extra other good stuff in it) |
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jennadodge |
| Sunday, December 9, 2012, 5:45pm |
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Thanks! I have NEVER cooked with soy/Tempeh so I will have to look up some recipes for sure! |
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| Sunday, December 9, 2012, 9:22pm |
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I think you'll enjoy eating like you did when you were in college. It sounds like you are into lots of veggies and lean foods. Especially now that you know the things that will help you even more, and the ones to leave out. Salads with almond slices and not tomatoes, etc.
Don't be surprised if the turn around is slightly adverse. You'll probably end up enjoying it as your body begins to function at an even higher level but... don't be surprised if you get a little bit of gas or something first! |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 1:54am |
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I have been finding my way around the forum for a while now and am impressed with the amount of knowledge I have picked up from everyone that contributes.
I have been eating high animal protein for a few years and only found the typea diet about 2 months ago now - big improvement. Followed up my books on ER4T with geno type and am warrior. Now adjusting to slight change in warrior diet and hoping to see about 5 kilos disappear in the next few months. Have virtually eliminated all wheat/red meat and fine tune the veg and fruit I am allowed to eat. If someone is offering me an avoid I either get out of it or have a tiny bit but am trying to be super strict with myself. So far feeling good.
Interestingly I can see the repercussions of not eating right in my mother and my older sister (both As) and high dairy/meat/wheat eaters so I know this could be a way for me to avoid their health issues. |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 2:21am |
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Interestingly I can see the repercussions of not eating right in my mother and my older sister (both As) and high dairy/meat/wheat eaters so I know this could be a way for me to avoid their health issues.
Exactly! This is a big part of the value of this way of eating - avoiding future genetic disease tendencies.  |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 4:50am |
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Well, I found out I am a Teacher and a Type A1 Secretor. I did SWAMI and got my diet print-out. The only thing I am sad about is that I can't have chocolate  But oh well. Oh, and half and half  I love half and half in my oatmeal! Interesting that Wheat is OK according to my SWAMI. In fact, the only grain that is an avoid (and it is a black dot) is Rye, which I don't like anyway. My biggest challenge right now is that I don't know what to eat! I am so used to eating "Paleo" that I am having a hard time adjusting and figuring out what to eat. I feel like a "cheater" when I am eating grains or *gasp* tamari sauce! I am going to do some serious recipe searching this weekend and try to make at least a semblance of a meal plan for next week. I know I need to do better with getting in more beneficials and particularly more vegetables! |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 6:49am |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 6:10pm |
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Lola, that link doesn't lead anywhere.  |
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| Saturday, December 15, 2012, 7:26pm |
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Lola, that link doesn't lead anywhere. 
I fixed the link in Lola's post. |
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| Sunday, December 16, 2012, 1:59am |
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| Sunday, December 16, 2012, 3:04am |
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Well, I found out I am a Teacher and a Type A1 Secretor. I did SWAMI and got my diet print-out. The only thing I am sad about is that I can't have chocolate  But oh well. Oh, and half and half  I love half and half in my oatmeal! Interesting that Wheat is OK according to my SWAMI. In fact, the only grain that is an avoid (and it is a black dot) is Rye, which I don't like anyway. My biggest challenge right now is that I don't know what to eat! I am so used to eating "Paleo" that I am having a hard time adjusting and figuring out what to eat. I feel like a "cheater" when I am eating grains or *gasp* tamari sauce! I am going to do some serious recipe searching this weekend and try to make at least a semblance of a meal plan for next week. I know I need to do better with getting in more beneficials and particularly more vegetables!
A teacher that can't lose the last few pounds? Maybe. What type of exercise do you do? |
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| Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:28am |
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A teacher that can't lose the last few pounds? Maybe. What type of exercise do you do?
I do CrossFit 4-5x/week (I know, I know....as an A I'm supposed to do Yoga and walking....but I am totally addicted to CrossFit and I LOVE being strong. I was glad to read that teachers should do more strength training). I also recently picked up yoga 1-2x/week...vinyasa, generally. Other than that I do fun stuff for exercise - mountain biking, walking/hiking, cross country skiing or alpine skiing (not much). I don't do that much but I do as much as I can. I am willing to compromise on my exercise intensity a little bit for my health, but like I said, I love to be strong and fit and don't see myself as a Yogi.....ever. I DO sleep 8.5-9.5 hours a night which I feel like should offset the stress of intense exercise. |
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cajun |
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 9:03am |
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Jennadodge, I used to Jazzercise..from 1980 until about 3 years ago. I absolutely loved the way it made me feel..we actually used light weights and core pilates along with the dancing. After getting my swami, I decided to try yoga and strength training on alternate days. I still "dance" around in my garage gym on my treadmill and weight lifting days. This has turned out to be the best exercise plan, for me, as my weight is stabilized and my muscle definition is really good. Not bad for my age!  Switching from paleo to teacher diet must be difficult. I stopped red meat in 1995 and never looked back!  best thing I ever did for my digestion!  No more sluggish red flesh sitting too long in my gut...  I do enjoy my fish and turkey weekly, variety of beans and rice and delicious nuts and seeds...so I do not feel deprived at all! If you don't have sinus issues you probably get many good cheeses on your swami, too.  Try to eat a wider variety of all the wonderful veggies we teachers get...I really look forward to my fresh greens plus "whatever" salad each day...add a little evoo and fresh lemon squeeze! It took a bit of experimenting and adjusting but now it is all good! |
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 9:22am |
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Sleep can not offset what stress does during the day, per say. Obviously there is a little bit of a reset, but that isn't a total fix. Cortisol has a little more longevity than that.
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| Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 5:25pm |
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Also bear in mind that most of the "soy is dangerous" studies didn't differentiate the blood types of study participants. Type Os, especially O nonnies, and type Bs are going to do poorly on soy. Many of these studies didn't separate out non-GMO soy from organic soy, and/or lumped processed foods containing soy (such as "meat analogues") in with things like tofu and miso.
A type A individual eating modest portions of organic, unprocessed soy is going to be healthier. A type A individual eating processed junk food containing genetically modified soy is NOT going to be healthy. A type B individual won't be healthy eating the organic miso soup with tofu chunks OR the soy-based junk food. |
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| Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 12:12am |
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Also bear in mind that most of the "soy is dangerous" studies didn't differentiate the blood types of study participants. Type Os, especially O nonnies, and type Bs are going to do poorly on soy. Many of these studies didn't separate out non-GMO soy from organic soy, and/or lumped processed foods containing soy (such as "meat analogues") in with things like tofu and miso.
A type A individual eating modest portions of organic, unprocessed soy is going to be healthier. A type A individual eating processed junk food containing genetically modified soy is NOT going to be healthy. A type B individual won't be healthy eating the organic miso soup with tofu chunks OR the soy-based junk food.
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| Friday, December 21, 2012, 7:07pm |
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Thanks everyone! I appreciate the repsonses. I haven't been checking in here much lately (busy week!) but have been sticking with my SWAMI diet for the most part - of course I am not perfect but it is a learning process. I plan to pick up some vegetarian cookbooks to help me get started - I know there are lots of recipes online I can use, but to me, there's nothing like flipping through a cookbook to spark my imagination. Any recommendations?
Thanks again!
Oh! I also started doing Yoga and plan to incorporate that more and more into my regimen. I love the way it makes me feel, for sure! |
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