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ruthiegirl
Monday, November 26, 2012, 6:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You need to learn to let go of the guilt with what you eat. I personally avoid things like larabars because I feel physically ill when I overdo the sugars, not because I "feel guilty" when I eat them.

O's need meat. Period. Buy the best quality meat you can afford. If you're struggling to even afford the cheapest meats, then the "cheap meat" is the best quality you can afford right now. Don't  feel guilty about buying or eating it. Get some beef in there too. I've found that beef really energizes me, and many O's have shared that response. You may need the nutrients in red meat to jump-start your metabolism, which may help you lose weight.


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You need to learn to let go of the guilt with what you eat. I personally avoid things like larabars because I feel physically ill when I overdo the sugars, not because I "feel guilty" when I eat them.

O's need meat. Period. Buy the best quality meat you can afford. If you're struggling to even afford the cheapest meats, then the "cheap meat" is the best quality you can afford right now. Don't  feel guilty about buying or eating it. Get some beef in there too. I've found that beef really energizes me, and many O's have shared that response. You may need the nutrients in red meat to jump-start your metabolism, which may help you lose weight.


Thanks. I can tolerate the larabars if I have a heavy workout like this am, but this was the first time I had one in about 6 months.

I def need to get some protein aka meat, or chicken.

True-maybe this will jumpstart my metabolism. NO GUILT.
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are george foremans ok for us?
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Some are concerned about the chemicals in the "non stick" coating, but all agree that food you cook yourself is better than precooked food with questionable additives.


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Marc- was that weight loss healthy or unhealthy for you? For many of us, losing weight is a good thing. If it was unhealthy weight loss, you may have cut calories too much when you cut down on the rice. Or you personally may need a lot of grains right now, especially if you're active.

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I`m not sure. I think it happened last week when I move from my house to the dormitory.

Due to unstable budgeting I have to cut rice. So my average intake per meal is 1 cup of rice.

I don`t feel bad at all.


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Some are concerned about the chemicals in the "non stick" coating, but all agree that food you cook yourself is better than precooked food with questionable additives.


Ok, thank you. I am hoping to get one this weekend.

How are you doing with BTD?
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I believe that your body feels hunger when it needs nutrients.  If you don't give it what it needs, the hunger won't subside.  If you give it something it can't use, then you'll gain weight.


That is a mantra worth keeping..

yes I always need more fats.. I trim the meat to all visible fats and use hardly any oils..

Today I ate to satisfaction after 4 weeks of eating out.. I went to the butcher and bought 8 rib steaks and cooked one (200 grams about 6 oz), for me and even 1 oz from my friends steak and ate it with onions and zucchini and 1/2 avocado.. mhmhhm  I finally feel full.. and wonderfully light weight.  I feel great.

When I ate like that nearly twice a day when I first came to BTD many years ago - I lost 20 pounds! - I wonder if I could do it again.. ?  I am looking forward to eating the steals at 6 oz each, all fat trimmed, with veggies or nice salad and salad dressing!

what I am saying here is that eating enough meat is making me happy.  It can be any meat.  


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When I ate like that nearly twice a day when I first came to BTD many years ago - I lost 20 pounds! - I wonder if I could do it again.. ?  I am looking forward to eating the steals at 6 oz each, all fat trimmed, with veggies or nice salad and salad dressing!

what I am saying here is that eating enough meat is making me happy.  It can be any meat.

As long as you are eating what your body needs, it will do what is best for it.  Depending on what the body's highest priorities are, it will either be removing junk, healing something or both.  

Remember that healing can be uncomfortable and long-term, so don't give up too soon.


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are george foremans ok for us?

We have a George Foreman grill but no longer use it.  The whole purpose of it is to quickly grill meat in such a way that the fat drains off.  But I don't agree with that method any more.  I know now that carbs are the unhealthy part of the diet.

Besides, the plates are made from aluminum, which is coated on the food side with a non-stick substance and a black finish, both of which are wearing off.  They need to be hand-washed, but we eventually put them in the dishwasher, and the aluminum became pitted.  Hand washing was difficult because they were hard to hold (lacking sturdy handles), and they'd mar the porcelain sink.

These days I prefer to broil or pan fry.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I agree about the ground bison.  I buy it every week at WFs.  Theres is freshly ground and I think it tastes better.  In the summer I grill it outdoors - only a little more than 3 minutes a side on high with the top down and it's perfect.
Marjorie, it does sound like you are obsessing.  Guilt's a wasted emotion.  Just move on and keep trying.  That's all any of us can do.  The stress from the worrying can affect your ability to let go of the weight too.  Relax!  I know it's easier said than done though.
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I have learned to treat myself as I would treat a friend or even a client lol! Big time difference.

Ask yourself what would you tell a friend that called you saying what you have written? A feeling of guilt, wrong doing etc only create anxiety on us which propels us to eat and dull the negative feelings.

I do better with small amounts of grains and fruits but I do better with them on a daily basis.

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I am in the weight loss mode, so am eating between 60 to 80 grams of carbs a day. I cut out most grain and if I eat bread it is made with almond flour. I will carb load one day every two or three weeks for a change of pace and it seems to help with the plateaus. On carb load day I eat some quinoa or some hot buckwheat cereal and some fruit. I do add Proberry liquid (1 tsp) and 1Tbsp of black cherry juice once a day. The cherry juice was helping joints too much to let go. I did only 40 grams for 12 weeks and ended up with joint pain without the cherry juice. Eat a lot of green veggies and include pumpkin, carrots or sweet potatoes in carb count 3 to 4 days a week. I have lost 25 lbs and belly fat. Had to get new clothes.


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I am in the weight loss mode, so am eating between 60 to 80 grams of carbs a day. I cut out most grain and if I eat bread it is made with almond flour. I will carb load one day every two or three weeks for a change of pace and it seems to help with the plateaus. On carb load day I eat some quinoa or some hot buckwheat cereal and some fruit. I do add Proberry liquid (1 tsp) and 1Tbsp of black cherry juice once a day. The cherry juice was helping joints too much to let go. I did only 40 grams for 12 weeks and ended up with joint pain without the cherry juice. Eat a lot of green veggies and include pumpkin, carrots or sweet potatoes in carb count 3 to 4 days a week. I have lost 25 lbs and belly fat. Had to get new clothes.


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Thanks Dianne


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I am in the weight loss mode, so am eating between 60 to 80 grams of carbs a day. I cut out most grain and if I eat bread it is made with almond flour. I will carb load one day every two or three weeks for a change of pace and it seems to help with the plateaus. On carb load day I eat some quinoa or some hot buckwheat cereal and some fruit. I do add Proberry liquid (1 tsp) and 1Tbsp of black cherry juice once a day. The cherry juice was helping joints too much to let go. I did only 40 grams for 12 weeks and ended up with joint pain without the cherry juice. Eat a lot of green veggies and include pumpkin, carrots or sweet potatoes in carb count 3 to 4 days a week. I have lost 25 lbs and belly fat. Had to get new clothes.


Good for you! That is excellent. I am in weight loss mode as well!
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Great going kittykar & marjorie!!!! Hang in there Goldie And marjorie - Jane is right - guilt is a wasted emotion
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Great going kittykar & marjorie!!!! Hang in there Goldie And marjorie - Jane is right - guilt is a wasted emotion


Thanks so much. I need to keep telling myself I deserve to feel good. Just as we all do.
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Fact: We are none of us are ever going to have the 100% perfect diet because we don't have 100% perfect knowledge or 100% perfect circumstances/family/finances etc.  We are moving towards 100% but we aren't there.....

Fact: Anyone who is here because they are following BTD/GTD/SWAMI to some degree, is eating better than the average human and better than they themselves were before

Fact: Many of us do a much better job of seeing the degree by which we miss the 100% than we do at seeing the degree by which our diet/lifestyle have improved as a result of BTD/GTD/SWAMI (Yep, that's me!)

When you start to feel guilty about some choice you made, stop and think about it - many times it will be a better choice than you would have made previously even if it wasn't the best possible choice that you COULD have made - give yourself credit for the improvement.  

And certainly don't worry about the choices which were never possible for you (too expensive, not available in your area etc.) - concentrate on the things you CAN improve    

Right, I shall now go away and read my own pep talk  


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