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marjorie
Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 10:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi All,

Been studying alot these days, but also I went on a vegan kick for one week.... almost all raw. Well, I was in a fog for most of the time and I was veryyyyyyyyyy sad.

I wanted to see how I felt and there are some parts of this I liked: felt much lighter in general.
No reason to worry about what to cook
Yoga improved.

Did better with not a lot of fruit but lots of veggies!

What I learned: I need animal protein to feel grounded even if it is eggs/fish.
I was moody with too much fruit
I was bloated

I need more greens in my diet along with the protein. No reason to go from one extreme to the other.

I guess I am tired of listening to others say eating fish is sooooooooooooo bad for me and I am wondering if any o's struggle with balancing everything?

Thank you and it feels good to be on the same page of individuals who accept me for who I am .

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prunella
Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 12:29am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Oh yes. I struggle.  I love seafood. Do not like meat or poultry. Feel best with lots of protein, but not too much legume.
Where I live, it is challenging to find organic fresh veggies that are not nightshades, especially in winter. It's a good thing I like squash and black beans.

In my next life I want to come back as a type A.  




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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marjorie
Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 1:48am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from prunella
Oh yes. I struggle.  I love seafood. Do not like meat or poultry. Feel best with lots of protein, but not too much legume.
Where I live, it is challenging to find organic fresh veggies that are not nightshades, especially in winter. It's a good thing I like squash and black beans.

In my next life I want to come back as a type A.  


I agree. Thank you for understanding my side. I am not sure what to do about it other than, just eat seafood for my protein and now I am starting to read terrible things about this as well.

where in the northeast? I am from NY.
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I don't know either. I can figure out which foods make me feel full, and which ones either don't satisfy me in the first place or don't keep me feeling full. But I've been dealing with a lot of fatigue, and I don't know which, if any. foods might alleviate that.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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marjorie
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I don't know either. I can figure out which foods make me feel full, and which ones either don't satisfy me in the first place or don't keep me feeling full. But I've been dealing with a lot of fatigue, and I don't know which, if any. foods might alleviate that.


I am sorry to hear that you are tired, I can relate.

I choose to eat some protein, but trying to figure it all out. I guess listening to our body is key?
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prunella
Thursday, October 18, 2012, 12:15am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I notice that you are in CO, not close to the coast! I live on the coast of New England.  If you can manage it, choose wild fish, sardines, yellow
fin tuna.
I eat lots of salmon and canned yellowfin tuna. Also, I eat a bit of grass fed beef, which I can only enjoy if it is in tomato sauce, which is an avoid.
And kale is a food group unto itself lately. I eat it cooked in soup or stir fry; raw in salad. Massaged kale is good, no bitterness.  

Like Ruthie,I also feel fatigue that I cannot always relate to foods I have eaten.  I usually feel better with more protein from meat or oily fish.

One thing I have not been able to make peace with is the amount of time I spend on food prep.  All of my creative energy goes to making gluten free, dairy free, swami compliant foods. In years past, I ate quick meals of bread and cheese, ravioli, tofu. These are no longer an option as per my swami. Digestion and achiness are much improved. Energy is somewhat improved, but I am often fatigued.

One of the things I miss most is time spent on art. Creativity goes to food. I have not worked in my studio in the past year. No time or energy left for that. Also less time for biking.  Compromises.




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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Joy
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Prunella,

I read your post and there are a few issues that stand out.

It's great that you are devoting so much time to cooking gluten free meals.  It is very healthy.

But health consists of multiple dimensions:  mind, body, and soul.

If you are giving too much to one area the others will suffer.  It sounds like you had a better mix when you prepared food quicker and had time for other pursuits such as your art.

I'm not focusing just on your issue as I am aware of this same issue in my own space.  I am eating better than I have ever been but I was deprived in my creativity such as designing beads, and interior design.  I am currently working on a necklace with fall colors and have enrolled in a condensed interior design class.  I find the class very invigorating.  It also simultaneously keeps me being creative in the beading area and also makes me want to continue to eat better.

I am rambling a bit here but I hope you can grasp the gist of what I'm saying.  

Why feel deprived in an area such as art that it seems you are clearly interested in continuing to grow and expand?

Just putting in my two cents here as I've been dealing somewhat with the same issues.  

Joy
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Prunella and Joy - boy, do I understand. I am just now trying to get back to my writing and art. I have started on another book for children, as I have been an author and illustrator since retiring from teaching school. It has been difficult getting back in the mood. Nearly three years ago my mother died of heart disease. Then nearly two years ago I developed heart problems. So I have spent nearly all my time reading health books and trying to figure out what to cook and eat instead of anything else. I have soooo many allergies and food intolerances, many of which send my pulse really fast, that it is a really vital issue. And I also get pretty tired. So, I'm going to try to get back in my studio and begin to "turn on" my creative juices. Maybe today? (after I read some in my new book on ways to cook greens).    
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Yes there is a great difference... Veggies and egg / meat and here and there a fruit would be totally ideal..  as of lately I also eat some (2 table spoons) Super Beneficial beans..just so I will not feel hungry..   works nicely.

Then if I could let go of all the other foods I would like, I would be living forever.. I might not have been meant to do that, so every so often I eat more of other things.. I love dried prunes, bananas, pineapple, chocolate and ice cream but all those things don't do me much good.. so back to line one and then all is great!  

What I am trying for now is to eat most days really well.. and take a day off in-between and eat what I like.. I hope that this will help me long term.. .... either that or I need a new friendship..  


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I think you are both doing great.
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Thanks to All of you for "getting it."
I don't believe that this diversion of creativity will last forever, but I sure notice it.  I have a belief system that stuff happens because it is supposed to.

I actually enjoy the challenge of preparing compliant food when my garden is still producing kale, basil, and zucchini. Shopping for compliant foods takes extra time.  I have always preferred homemade to store bought. So I have been making almond flour muffins, almond butter breakfast breads, sesame crackers, soups.  

I keep hoping that when my energy improves, I will also find the time to do studio work. On one level I hear you saying "lighten up!"  On another level, when I read this forum, I feel like I will never be as healthy as I want to be unless I figure out how to beat the fatigue by following swami.

Goldie, you have made me appreciate the pineapple my swami has as a diamond. Love that Trader Joe's dried pineapple!  




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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ruthiegirl
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After  being at this for a while, I've found that it takes less creative energy to stick to SWAMI. I keep on re-making meals that worked in the past, instead of constantly trying to think up new ones.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Patty H
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I eat much more fish than red meat or poultry and that is what my SWAMI calls for.  You are on the right track with the fish/seafood!  Not sure who is telling you not to eat it, marjorie.


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When I was a Hunter, fish was 6X/week, poultry 3X/week, red meat 4X/week. No way could I consume that much food.  I added some info to swami, morphed into an Explorer and swami says fish 4X/week, poultry 3X/week, red meat 3X/week.

If I manage to eat fish 4-5X/week, chicken broth 1-2X/week, and red meat 2X/week I am more than satisfied. I eat compliant beans, too, but not poultry.

Do the people who claim 80% compliance actually eat all the servings recommended by swami?  I would never get off the couch if I ate all recommended servings of any food category.




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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Quoted from Patty H
I eat much more fish than red meat or poultry and that is what my SWAMI calls for.  You are on the right track with the fish/seafood!  Not sure who is telling you not to eat it, marjorie.


Thanks, Patty. I was listening to all these raw foodists and it has been starting to take a toll on me. I was feeling guilty everytime I had a piece of cod or even tuna.

I also do believe in a plant based diet overall, however, I am much more productive when I have some protein.

Perhaps I can slowly modify my plan, swami says red meat 4 times per wk and I have not had any in 2 months! I have pretty much stuck to fish and a little bit of poultry, but lately I do not even want that anymore.

And.... I totally think fruit is overrated. I was eating more fruit to fill up and it really made me moody and not focused. Thanks for your support, I really appreciate it.
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Raw eating works for some people some of the time. Most people need a balance between raw and cooked foods. In general, most people need more raw food in the summer and more cooked food in cooler weather, and in general A's need more raw food than O's. All these factors interact. An A may do well on 98% raw in the summer and 50% raw in the winter. An O may do well on 30% raw in the summer and 10% raw in the winter. Your actual needs can vary slightly from day to day depending on a number of factors.

Any eating system that doesn't acknowledge these variations isn't going to work for everybody. Many people have a hard time separating out "this worked great for me!" from "this is what everybody should do all the time." Your "raw foodist" friends may be type A or AB. They may be feeling guilty about eating some cooked foods, when in reality it's those "cheat meals" that are keeping their bodies in balance.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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I couldn't read everypost, but I've found I spend less time in food prep.  I usually broil my fish, meat and often turkey. Or I use ground. (lamb mostly) and may curry or stir fry type dishes. Large meat I use the slow cooker. I do make my WH Spelt bread, (I don't eat that much bread) but I make at least 2 maybe 4 loafs, cut and freeze so that might be once a month.  My veggies I steam if not having salad. I don't bake much anymore something I did alot of before BTD. This might be harder on a large family or like ruthie a family with several GTD and/or different bts. I like to build my meals which save time too.  (pot roast, becomes stew etc)


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