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BHealthy
Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 8:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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we all go through a phase of wanting to figure everything out and test everything

It's not a phase with me...it's my whole life.  My MB is INTP.  I need to understand.



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it s ok

only watch personalized frequency values given for nuts
I soak mine the night before blending, in green tea.......I like it that way

THANK YOU!!!!

I'll have to try it with green tea, since I can't have coffee.  


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no need to spit out eva




thanks for the clarification Lola, but I can't swallow - too much fibre - I have been told to avoid fibre because of the diagnosis of digetive tract paralysis (basically very erratic - if any - peristalsis) so the pulp would just sit in my intestines.

I am on a liquid only (or puree) diet.
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I suspect BHealthy that you are not a Hunter but an explorer

Perhaps you should re check you measurements


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It's not a phase with me...it's my whole life.  My MB is INTP.  I need to understand.





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Eva- IMO, you have very different dietary needs than the "average person." Many "whole foods" are inappropriate for you until your GI system heals. It's imperative that you get enough nutrients and calories that your body can actually absorb. The problems with almond milk are clearly much more subtle than the problems with other "avoids" such as cow's milk. Do what you need to do in order to get enough calories to heal, but bear in mind that some of the "deeper healing" of this diet won't be within your reach until later, when higher compliance is possible.

BHealthy- I make rice milk to put into my yerba mate, hot cocoa, or "mocha mate" (yerba mate with cocoa powder.) I sometimes consume these drinks unsweetened, and sometimes use molasses. I make my rice milk thicker so it's more like "rice cream" than "rice milk". No, it's not as creamy, rich, or smooth as almond milk or coconut milk, but it fulfills the need for "something creamy in my hot beverage."


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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It's all about trade offs, isn't it?  Making the best choices based on the info that we have. Imagine the human species if everyone followed swami!  

OTOH, the abundance of info can be overwhelming as can prioritizing which issues to address first. I feel fortunate that I had eliminated wheat and dairy before I discovered BTD/swami.  Trying to do it all at once would have been anxiety provoking.


I think I really get why BHealthy needs to know the science. I am not as persistent because I get overwhelmed by all the details. But when I make decisions about my foods, I want to know which part of my biology I am impacting.  




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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One more thought:

I reran my MB. I am now INFP. Also nonsecretor. I have become an Explorer! No longer Hunting, Exploring the World!




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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Prunella- were there big changes in your food list with the change in "genotype label" or only subtle differences? Any change at all in recommended portion sizes or frequencies?


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BHealthy- I make rice milk to put into my yerba mate, hot cocoa, or "mocha mate" (yerba mate with cocoa powder.) I sometimes consume these drinks unsweetened, and sometimes use molasses. I make my rice milk thicker so it's more like "rice cream" than "rice milk". No, it's not as creamy, rich, or smooth as almond milk or coconut milk, but it fulfills the need for "something creamy in my hot beverage."

I may try that once I get over my aversion to eating rice.  Eating grains made my weight balloon and, having lost it, I don't want to go back there.  
  


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It's all about trade offs, isn't it?  Making the best choices based on the info that we have.  

Yes!  We can make the best choices if we have enough info!


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A batch of rice milk uses 2 tablespoons of rice, and lasts me half a week. That comes to about a teaspoonful of rice per day. Unless it leads to cravings, that small amount of rice shouldn't affect your weight.


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Ruthie, you guessed right!
Swami changes were more about frequency and portions than specific foods. Overall, less food, Thank goodness. Less red meat, a bit more carb.  I never managed to eat as much food as the Hunter diet recommended.
These changes are a relief to me and seem much more do-able.

I have lost weight since beginning swami and am now 118 lbs at 5'6", lean and angular.  I exercise daily if possible, but not as vigorously as Hunters seem to need to do.

I still love unsweetened almond milk, now a black dot. Chocolate is no longer highly beneficial. I can live with this!




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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Quoted from prunella

These changes are a relief to me and seem much more do-able.



It seems that most people feel this way when they get their SWAMI fine-tuned so that they get the proper fit.  It does just fit!



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I tried to be that Hunter chick, but I'm a way-too-nerdy think-out-of-the-box type.

PS: I ate organic chocolate while I typed that last sentence. It's a mere neutral now, but I can't let it go to waste.




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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If you have a physical aversion to something, you do not necessarily have to include or a lot of. (rice). Aversion can sometimes be more than dislike. Some gluten free people who start eating rice daily develop an IgG allergy to it. Some O's have reported that less grains make them feel better. Variety, balance, quality. New mantra for me.


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ruthiegirl, please post the rice milk recipe??
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Just make your own with a little almond butter, water, maybe a little sweetener. Shake it up. Delicious!


but wouldn't this be a bit grainy when added to say a nice cup of tea?

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I soak mine the night before blending, in green tea.......I like it that way


Lola do you strain after blending?  

Also what's the best way to strain and how long will it keep in the fridge?  

I'm forced to do this now since I have avoid carrageenan - as i'm thinking it might be one of the culprits in my joint pain... yes?
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Some people strain through a cheesecloth and squeeze.  I always just used the finest weave of a stainless steel mesh strainer. This was for almond milk, made from almonds, but you could do this with almond milk made from almond butter also.



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Quoted from Victoria
Some people strain through a cheesecloth and squeeze.  I always just used the finest weave of a stainless steel mesh strainer. This was for almond milk, made from almonds, but you could do this with almond milk made from almond butter also.


thank you.. i have one of those strainers.  I'm going to try it tomorrow after soaking the almonds all night.  
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I do not strain.....


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I do not strain.....


chewy milk!!!
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