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tonyacc
Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 6:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am fairly new to the program and am experiencing some issues.
I have horrible bloating and pain after many meals but especially in the morning. I have to gag myself to belch up the gas, its been horrible. It seems to happen no matter what I eat in the morning.
I am a type A and Warrior. I lost 12 pounds when I first started by eliminating red meat and pork and almost all gluten. Now my genotype acts like gluten isn't as big of an avoid so I have regressed a little. I have had sugar cravings for 3 months now and felt like that is all I wanted to eat. I have gained back 8 of the pounds I lost last summer.

I have been trying the Yoplait Greek Yogurt the past two days and it has helped a little but I have been having the consistent issue for months now.
I have also dealt with panic attacks since childhood and even though they are much improved, I still struggle with triggers. One of my triggers is a dry mouth which I used to get from the antibiotics I took as a child. So that said, I think I need to take some of the supplements but every time I see the words "detox" or "diuretic" I feel my heart flutter with this silly fear. I have the Polyflora A sitting in my desk right now never opened and I haven't purchased any of the Warrior ones yet - why waste the money if I wont take them?
So can anyone tell me if they have ever felt like this and how the supplements made them feel starting out? Should I take the Polyflora A and the Warrior supps?
Any advice welcome.
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A's get bacterial overgrowth-- which is what it sounds like you have. Targeting the supplements along with the diet will get your gut healthy. Use up three bottles of the gastro D along with intrinsa and deflect-- do not take the polyflora with the gastro d it will kill the good bacteria from the polyflora.

Once you are done with the above then you can start the polyflora.

What are you eating that is on your  Warrior list? Also cooking all your veggies and fruits will help your gut. A Warrior's have very low stomach acid.

Please tell us what you are eating on a daily basis

And you need to stay away from the wheat-- yes it is on my list too but I rarely eat it gives me heart burn.


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tonyacc
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Thank you Andrea.

Yesterday for example I ate a Glenny's Peanuts & Peanut Butter Bar. It's agave sweetened, no granola and gluten free. I had some grilled Salmon with and some Lipton rice mix (garlic butter) for dinner and a small amount of chocolate pudding with cool whip for dessert.

I woke up this morning and had 3 Belvita Blueberry breakfast wafers with a little less than half of a Stonyfield Farms vanilla yogurt. I got immidiete full heartburn feeling with the horrible gas and need to belch and within 90 minutes was using the restroom and gagging myself to get a deep belch of relief. It takes about 3 hours to get back to normal and that is if I dont eat at all. I have used the Gas X tablets before but they do not help much.

It is also important to tell you that I usually drink a few tbsps of Lakewood 100% organic cranberry juice (no sugar) before my meal. My chiropractor told me a few years back to try this to put the acid back in my stomach and help my digest meals because I had been taking Prilosec for so long it depleted my acid. I don't know if that is true or not but I stopped the Prilosec on March 1, 2011 cold turkey and never looked back. I still continued the Cranberry though.
I also try to take a few drops of Gentian root before I eat and sometimes that helps.

I will order what you said today. Do you have any opinion on continuing the cranberry and gentian along with the supps?
Thx.
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Thank you Andrea.

Yesterday for example I ate a Glenny's Peanuts & Peanut Butter Bar . It's agave sweetened, no granola and gluten free.  ( may be gluten free but what else is in it? often gluten free means full of other junk to make it taste better, learn to make your own granola from homemade ingredients)I had some grilled Salmon with and some Lipton rice mix( the ingredients in this mix are not good learn to make your own seasoned rice) (garlic butter) for dinner and a small amount of chocolate pudding with cool whip for dessert. ( who made the chocolate pudding and what was in it? cool whip is certainly not a good product for anyone)

I woke up this morning and had 3 Belvita Blueberry breakfast wafers( don't know what these are) with a little less than half of a Stonyfield Farms vanilla yogurt. ( yogurt might be Ok but I would buy plain and add my own sweetener and some fresh berries.)

Thx.


Your meals lack the vegetables that are needed for the A diet.

No wonder you don't feel good--

Just using the supplements will not be enough you need to change your diet as well. Reading ingredients on everything will help you get in control of what you ingest.






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Well I admit I wondered about that

Okay, I will start today with more veggies, cooking them through.

Normally for lunch I just eat a plain rice cake (gf) and planters creamy peanut butter. I will make myself add a veg to that.

At night I do normally incorporate more but my favorite has always been corn and various peppers which are now a no no. I have recently found a liking for spinach and black eye peas though and can make myself eat green beans and broccoli.
I ordered the 3 supps today and will start now with the veggies. I will report back with my status. I am committed to getting better!!

I am going to return to my no wheat stance then and also see if that helps. I have found that the less dairy I consume the better as well which is in keeping with my Warrior A profile.
I hope the supps will help with the intense craving for sugar.

PS do you make your own granola?
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try some fish bone broth or other, like turkey or whatever is on your beneficial list

add veggies to that

warm soup for the heart!!


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It sounds like you've gotten some good advice so far.

You definitely need to move away from the packaged foods. Organic sweetened yogurt may or may not be compliant, but you can't go wrong with plain (unsweetened) yogurt with a compliant sweetener (agave, honey, maple syrup, molasses, etc) mixed in- then you know what you're eating and you can control the quantity of added sweeteners.

Skip the flavored rice mix. Add ghee or olive oil, salt, and garlic powder to the rice before cooking, and you've got "garlic butter rice." It may also be  tasty with a little onion powder there too, possibly some parsley if you want green specks to make your rice look more fancy. A dash of turmeric gives it a nice yellow color. You can get creative with the spices, or just use olive oil and salt.

The packaged pudding and cool whip are just bad news. You can make your own chocolate pudding with compliant ingredients, but you're probably better off skipping dessert altogether. Dessert should be a once-a-week (or less) treat, not a regular part of weekday eating. Real whipped cream, though it may not be fully compliant, is far healthier than cool whip. The chemicals, additives, and gums found in cool whip (and possibly pre-packaged pudding) probably made your digestive system feel even worse.  They certainly inhibit healing, making you feel even worse the next time you eat a food that obviously causes bloating.

The cranberry juice is probably fine, though I'm not overly familiar with the A diet.


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Okay, I will start today with more veggies, cooking them through.

You can also eat raw vegetables - carrot sticks, broccoli, cauliflower... per your food list of course...

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Normally for lunch I just eat a plain rice cake (gf) and planters creamy peanut butter. I will make myself add a veg to that.

Again, read the ingredients on the peanut butter...  You may need to switch brands to get less additives...
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I have recently found a liking for spinach and black eye peas though and can make myself eat green beans and broccoli.
I ordered the 3 supps today and will start now with the veggies. I will report back with my status. I am committed to getting better!!

Sounds great!!!

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I hope the supps will help with the intense craving for sugar.

Getting adequate protein from good sources and carbs from vegetables / fruit should help reduce the sugar cravings.


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No wonder you don't feel good--  

Wow! I was thinking the same thing........


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Organic sweetened yogurt may or may not be compliant, but you can't go wrong with plain (unsweetened) yogurt with a compliant sweetener (agave, honey, maple syrup, molasses, etc) mixed in- then you know what you're eating and you can control the quantity of added sweeteners.

Stonyfield makes some of the most highly sweetened yogurts around. I have written to them about seeing people in grocery stores tossing their  sweetened products back on the shelf because of the horrendous amount of sweetener they use. For whatever reason, though, they refuse to back off a single gram......


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Hey ABjoe-- when my friend went to see Dr D and colleagues they said for anyone with GI trouble to cook all the fruits and veggies for a bit-- more so for an A who low stomach acid.

Sticking with this for a bit might be best for the GI tract.

Like Ruthie said-- Planters brand PB-- might contain avoid oils and sugars. Best to stick with natural PB.

Slow and steady you are already getting the hang of things


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Thank you all so much for the info so far. I love the idea of the turkey broth soup with diamond food veggies and maybe some brown rice or gf noodles?

As a side to this- I work for a major food manufacturer so the brands I use (Planters, Cool Whip, etc) are specific to my company. I hate to do it but I will have to start going to the great natural food stores here and getting those brands instead.

I grew up in a Mennonite, dessert-with -every meal family so I am adjusting!
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get a crock pot!!

my favorite 'night chef'


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How about some ambition to get higher in the company [if your warrior genes can deal with the stress ] and get some good ingredients in and some bad out of the manufactured foods - half joking!
Good Luck with improving your health.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned, i a bit of a rush ..

look into soaking stuff to ease digestion. phytic acid etc

have a look at intrinsa, that helps.

drink less water assuming you are drinking too much? if you have stopped drinking coffee diary wheat etc, you seem to need less water so bloating is common.


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Gluten free noodles are not the best choice-- get some quinoa,  brown rice or even100% rice noodles.

Gluten free is not good for anyone-- they often contain corn and tapioca starch along with other avoids. Maximize your nutrients with dense foods that will heal your gut rather then make you sick.


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Hey ABjoe-- when my friend went to see Dr D and colleagues they said for anyone with GI trouble to cook all the fruits and veggies for a bit-- more so for an A who low stomach acid.

Sticking with this for a bit might be best for the GI tract.

Good to know...  Thanks, Andrea!


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Hey ABjoe-- when my friend went to see Dr D and colleagues they said for anyone with GI trouble to cook all the fruits and veggies for a bit-- more so for an A who low stomach acid.
Sticking with this for a bit might be best for the GI tract.
Slow and steady you are already getting the hang of things

I've heard for years that cooking food is good for people who have horrible digestive problems. Must be something to it if Dr. D. gives an okay for doing it short term.... Fresh made juices seem to work for some people too. Sure is an easy way to get a whole lot of stuff down! In fact, I think I will make a celery-based drink right now!  


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Poor sensitive blood type A's--- we lack that iron stomach.


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Good to know thank you. Andrea- if we should avoid the Gluten Free foods and wheat, is there a bread choice I can have (that tastes good ) instead? I was getting the Schar gluten free ciabatta. I have heard that Challah is good...any thoughts? The brown rice/turkey broth/veggie soup sounds great with a piece of bread!
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You need to read ingredients carefully on every packaged product you buy. There are some gluten-free foods that are acceptable. Many simple, whole foods (such as uncooked rice and beans) are labeled "gluten free." There are "gluten free pastas" that are made with brown rice flour and nothing else.

Remember that gluten is found in wheat, but also in spelt, rye, barley and some oat products. Gluten is not found in some very unhealthy foods, such as carrageenan, xanthan gum, potatoes, sugar, and corn (a no-no for Os and Bs, not sure about As), and you'll often find those ingredients in gluten-free products.

Meanwhile, you may be able to eat some products that are not gluten-free if the ingredients are acceptable on the A diet. Spelt bread can't be labeled "gluten free"  but it may be acceptable for you- check your food list. It's easier to find 100% spelt bread without weird ingredients than it is to find gluten-free breads without additives, since the natural gluten in spelt makes a good loaf, while rice flour doesn't hold together as well.

It doesn't matter if the bread is pizza dough, challah, bagel, english muffin, or sandwich bread. You need to read the ingredients on anything you buy ready-made or in a mix. Another option is to bake your own.


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Good to know thank you. Andrea- if we should avoid the Gluten Free foods and wheat, is there a bread choice I can have (that tastes good ) instead? I was getting the Schar gluten free ciabatta. I have heard that Challah is good...any thoughts? The brown rice/turkey broth/veggie soup sounds great with a piece of bread!



Let go of bread-- in all forms.

Use a lettuce leaf, nori sheets, rice cakes for what ever you use bread for.  Stop seeking breads to fill in the void in your life .

Wasted calories on foods that do not build up your body are not the best choice. chose things that make you healthier.





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You could try some kind of cultured vegetables or kefir if you can tolerate dairy which you probably can and also coconut oil- I think many As can use it.
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