I have made my point, and still stand behind it. As often on message boards there are contradicting opinions; which means you have to think for yourself, weigh the arguments, and possibly do your own research.
If you read JJR's post closely you'll notice that there is nothing in it that disproves my claims. If anything, it proves my point; that once you start taking digestive enzymes, you'll get troubles digesting food without them. JJR hasn't tried the bitters, TMG, B and C, which would probably have healed him far quicker.
It doesn't prove that you get addicted to them. I used them when I needed to. It fluctuated. There were times I'd take more than others. It was what my body needed at the time. IMHO. And now I don't take them at all. So how does that prove what you're saying is true?
But yes, to be honest, I have no clue if the science behind what you are saying is true. Also, what you are saying makes rational sense to me. But regardless, my experience tells me they are AOK. And like briny said, they helped me quite a bit when I did use them. Sometimes we'll learn something that says, hey, you should do things this way, and will have all the right reasons to back it up. And sometimes it just doesn't make sense to follow it. I'm not sure how to quantify it, other than the fact there is so much information out there on what is PROPER, and like you said, some of it contradictory, that not ALL of it can be right. And what is "right" for one person, might not be for another. So.... in respect I say all this.
The problem I have with your post is that you are not respecting the differing side. You clearly stated it wasn't a good idea to take digestive enzymes. Therefore all of us that have, become targets of your statement. You get me? Also, to clarify and make this more scientific: What is your source?
My source for it being OK is my doctor. Also, I read it in one of James Colbourn's books that he takes them. I forget which book though. It was a book about detoxifying your life. I think the word "toxic" was in the title. I'm not sure which way Dr.D stands on this though. I forget if he's written about it. The genotype Teacher Catalyst, I think, had HCL in it. FWIW. But I don't know what he thinks about plant based digestive enzymes.
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If anything, it proves my point; that once you start taking digestive enzymes, you'll get troubles digesting food without them. JJR hasn't tried the bitters, TMG, B and C, which would probably have healed him far quicker.
I just did some reading about digestive grape bitters - something I had never heard about before... It appears that they stimulate bile flow and healthy liver function. When I took digestive enzymes, it was because the pancreas was having difficulty, not the liver... It is possible that the pancreas was having difficulty because I had already had liver issues and dealt with them, but messed up the pancreas in the meantime...
I don't think I would have taken the bitters for the issue I had when I took the enzymes. Also, even though I took enzymes for somewhat longer than several weeks, there was no addiction or dependency created, as when the pancreas healed and came online, the body reduced its demand for the enzymes...