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Monday, May 14, 2012, 9:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I've noticed that my wife who is an A+ can handle sweets a lot better than I can ... who am an O nonnie.  Is this official?  We go out and she has desert and feels no "repercussions" from it, whereas if I have it... I really regret it.

Any insight into this would be appreciated.

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It's quite often a 'Nonnie' thing!  Sure is true of me - I don't eat desserts any more, nor add any sweeteners to the foods or beverages I prepare.  Don't miss it any more, not one bit.  The natural sweetness of foods is so wonderful!  



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It could be because you're a nonnie and she may not be. It could be because wheat-laden sweets are much more harmful for O's than for A's- it may not be JUST the sugar you're reacting to. A third option is that you're more aware of your body and know when you've eaten something unhealthy, while she's less aware and can't "feel" the damage being done by the bad foods.


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Xplorer,
Curious what reactions you feel to sweets?
My husband and I are both A blood, but he seems to handle sweets better than I do.  I'm a secretor, don't know what he is.
Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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I like sweets.. but much more for its mental -self pity- thing.  I think I could do without more and more, but paying a price never seems to kick in until after I ate the sweets.  Generally I just stay away from places where they sell sweets.  I have no needs for it at home.  

one sis does not eat sweets and is fanatical about looks, I think in that attitude it's a self punishment, yet she really would rather eat cheese.. she is B.  

I wonder if nonnies suffer 'guilt'?   I do as I really wish I could just give it all up, but then what good would living be?   I play games .. like having a scoop of ice cream only when I fill up my car with gas, never buying any for my home- way to dangerous.. little by little over many years I am much better at NOT rewarding ME..   and seeing that as a good thing   and with that I learned that I can make a big difference in healing my gut and reducing diabetes damage by much ..

I think however that guilting someome for their 'needs' is dangerous, makes one feel superior and the other sufffffers.. (talking about my feelings here)    


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Interesting post Goldie. I can relate to the reward thing. I'm lucky I'm an A I guess, have always loved sweets and things like golden syrup! Oh man! (Sorry O's) But nowadays (being over 50 now) I try to limit it to things like honey and maple, occasional cereal bars/good choc, more sensible sweet stuff.
But I confess I do have treats sometimes but tend to steer completely clear of purely sugar laden sweets and also biscuits. I think, just don't go there, don't even have one biscuit ever, and that works for me. Also ice cream. I virtually never have that. I have occasional cakes more. If you limit it to one type maybe that helps??
I'm tired and waffling now I feel.
Hey, don't feel guilty. Don't even go there!  
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I feel guilty if I eat too much fruit and never enjoyed sweets in general. Not my thing, but i believe being an o has something to do with it.

Do not be hard on yourself, just accept who you are and go with it.
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From this A secretor, I can tell you that I had a huge sweet addiction, one that affected me tremendously...although I've given up added sweeteners for the most part...I do use dates in my morning oats, and sometimes date sugar or agave, but that is rare and far between.

Every once in a while, added sugar finds its way into my body (usually by accident when eating out, which is also rare) and the repercussions are: craving and caving into eating processed wheat, which leads to more cravings and so on. After eating sugar, it usually takes me close to a week to rebound.


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I'm an O and I love sweets so I don't think it's an A thing.  They are so addicting though.  If I have one p iece of chocolate I seem to need more.  I've made some "compliant recipes" with agave and I find they are just as addicitive if not more.
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yes the thing to do is to not have any in the house..

and if it is then it has to be 90% chocolate.. at least if I eat it it's still good enough for me..

I ate rice yesterday and gained 2 pounds.. Just not worth the calories and the water retention.. and the arthritic kicking up .. all it took was one day !

If I am to gain it is going to be with pure chocolate cream ice cream, or an added slice of fruit.. // and darn it: NO guilt..

I DO BELIEVE that GUILT adds the pounds.. and makes me miserable in more ways than weight and pain..  



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I hate sweets!    Well, yes....I'm lying....but it made me feel good just to say it.  
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Everyone is different.  And sometimes we go through periods of change.  I used to be a HUGE sweet fanatic before I had health problems.  Then I got to the point where I couldn't stand them at all.  Physically they made me feel awful and I wouldn't even crave them.

Now, I think because I'm feeling better, I'm starting to crave them more.  I hope to never go back to what I used to be.  But I plan to enjoy some now and then.  There is a reason so many people are addicted to sugar.  Because it tastes good.  Although I have learned that there are a lot of healthy foods that taste GREAT and don't even have to be sweet.  For me, when I was a sugar fanatic, that addiction skewed my tastebuds to where I didn't like healthy food.  Like veggies.  But now I do love them.  Bitter ones, etc.  I think now I'm a salad fanatic.  I need one every day and I love them.  Without dressings.  Just olive oil.


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90% chocolate? I keep 100% baking chocolate in the house. I don't eat it often, but when I do, it's just the pure stuff, no sugar or vanilla added. It doesn't take much to satisfy a chocolate craving, and it never leads to sugar cravings because there are no sugars in it, not even agave.


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Quoted from ruthiegirl
90% chocolate? I keep 100% baking chocolate in the house. I don't eat it often, but when I do, it's just the pure stuff, no sugar or vanilla added. It doesn't take much to satisfy a chocolate craving, and it never leads to sugar cravings because there are no sugars in it, not even agave.


Same here. I keep it in a drawer out of sight and have a little when the mood hits. Thing is that it has no 'fuse' i.e.sugar, vanilla, milk or whatever.

If you don't light the fuse the bomb won't go off.  





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I can't eat sweets - they make me feel absolutely awful - and I don't even like them anyway.  I don't know my secretor status, but it would not at all surprise me if I am a non


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It would be really cool to know your secretor status.  I think it makes a good impact on how to know which foods to eat and other things.  I've been wanting to test my sons and wife but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Hey Briny, I hit 132 last night!!!!!!!  Thank you for your help!  I am continuing to gain weight, PRAISE THE LORD and pass the food.  hehehhe  That's 18 pounds I've gained.  Wow.  Your posts early on really did help me a LOT.  So thank you.


Sorry to hijack the thread.  Please resume!!!


That 100% chocolate is pretty stiff.  I was eating the 90 for a while, but I do admit I like the 70 percent the best.  Lindt.  Mmmmmmmmmmm...  And yes, it has sugar in it.  I guess I'm not as good as some of you all.  hehehhe  For me, I don't really care.  Eating one and a half squares every few days doesn't make me want to binge.  At least not yet.  


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I enjoy something sweet after a meal...lunch or dinner. I prefer a fruit or chocolate pastry, frozen yogurt, pie, profiterole.. I don't go there now, since er4yt (especially ice cream..oooh bad stomach ache) but sometimes.....my resistance is gone!
As a teenager I craved sweets, things like chocolate, fruit pies, pastries, not hard sugar candies .
I don't get real cravings anymore but have never lost the desire to enjoy a sweet!

btw...my O son, O husband and O Dad always want dessert and my 2 best friends, both O, crave sweets alot!


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I live for desserts and am a fabulous baker, that said...I have not even contemplated finding BT replacements for my sweets I have no left behind.

I do have to say I have bought a juicer and real fruit juice is very satisfying. Do I miss all those fabulous delicious treats..yep am I going to eat them? nope.

My A- husband is has absolutely no self control, if there were sweets in the house, that is all he would eat. So it is better no sweets at all. Fruit is your dessert, chew well.
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Quoted from ruthiegirl
90% chocolate? I keep 100% baking chocolate in the house. I don't eat it often, but when I do, it's just the pure stuff, no sugar or vanilla added. It doesn't take much to satisfy a chocolate craving, and it never leads to sugar cravings because there are no sugars in it, not even agave.


I keep some in the fridge for just this reason. One square is usually enough, and I only have some every once in a blue moon.


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I keep a bar of 85% Vivani and maybe once a week, I'll eat one of the little squares.  That's all I really want and I never would have believed that my appetite would change so drastically.  After all, I was an ice cream addict all my life, and easily ate a pint a day for decades.  Also chocolate was something I couldn't stop eating.  My, how things have changed for the better!!!!!  



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Ruthie and others: I just don't see any 100% cooking choc in the stores here. Maybe not available in UK?  
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The strongest chocolate I can handle is 60%.  You guys are hard core.  That stuff tastes awful
to me.    I made really weird faces when I tried it.
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Very rarely do I crave sweets. Most of the time, it would be chocolate and a piece of fruit usually makes it go away.

I noticed if I eat more veggies and lots of water -- I could go without sweets forever
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Hey Briny, I hit 132 last night!!!!!!!  Thank you for your help!  I am continuing to gain weight, PRAISE THE LORD and pass the food.  hehehhe  That's 18 pounds I've gained.  Wow.  Your posts early on really did help me a LOT.  So thank you.


I am so glad to hear that - another success!!!

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Sorry to hijack the thread.  Please resume!!!  


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That 100% chocolate is pretty stiff.  I was eating the 90 for a while, but I do admit I like the 70 percent the best.  Lindt.  Mmmmmmmmmmm...  And yes, it has sugar in it.  I guess I'm not as good as some of you all.  hehehhe  For me, I don't really care.  Eating one and a half squares every few days doesn't make me want to binge.  At least not yet.


You will eventually get so used to 80% then 85% that you will not like the sweet stuff any more.. REMEMBER choc is good for you.. it fixes the head nicely.. the heart also.. so a little can go a long way to be medicine..  


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I feel bad about sweets also, have had a sweet tooth my whole life.  I stick to dates & every other weekend have a gluten free chocolate mousse treat.  Red wine, chocolate & dry cheese like parmesan can also be a good dessert for Os.
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Ruthie and others: I just don't see any 100% cooking choc in the stores here. Maybe not available in UK?  


I've never gone shopping in the UK, but I do know that in USA stores it's with the baking supplies, next to the cocoa powder, spices, sugar, flour, etc. If you're looking on the candy aisle with the other chocolate bars, you won't find it.


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I didn't crave sweets for most of my life.
I snacked on saltier stuff.

In my late 40s I started sweetening tea -- then coffee.
I remarked about it to an older friend as we were having a cuppa together (he took plenty of sugar), and he said it's common to want to "sweeten the deal" as one gets older.

Anyone heard of that?


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I feel bad about sweets also, have had a sweet tooth my whole life.  I stick to dates & every other weekend have a gluten free chocolate mousse treat.  Red wine, chocolate & dry cheese like parmesan can also be a good dessert for Os.


I just typed my Ode to sweets and a dinner menue planned for O kids.. and then I wiped it all out in some error I keep making.. I might retype some of it.. but it is really painfull- I had so much fun// reliving my life with sweets..  no sorrow for me.. not today, even as I am eating very carefullly.  


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Ok sugar is not the bad thing it is made out to be,... Here is another stab at Ode to sweets..

I ate sweets all my life and especially when I was young.. and I never gained any weight.. until hormones or America sugar turned my life around..  and I started to gain, but I am certain it was more about STRESS than anything else.

for me the dreams of eating sweets will never be less than beautiful.  The pastries the fruit and all the other good things.. the camaraderie's the friendship, the being pampered, the being supported .. sugar was never on issue in my family.  we also worked and we moved freely and we balanced it with other foods and the gorgeous foods where always in proper portions.. IT IS NOT the foods and it is not the sugars, jams or chocolates.  

In the current life and time.. It is the monkeyed around with foods.. the packaged foods and the pressure to buy per- packaged foods.  I am lucky, I stopped following that herd decades ago, and then I found BTD and that settled it for me - guilt free indulgence.

Over the years my diabetes label gave me more to think about, more to learn and coming to term with.  HAD I not known that from Dr D's writings I would be sunk!   Genetics is the explanation.  Genetics about cancer was one consideration on moms side, I never knew about the diabetes gene until papa was older..  Dr D put life in perspective.  

YET, to drop weight AND not pick it up again, it seems that my body allows me to drop 20 pounds and sneaks 10 back on.. but I don't go all the way.  Even with BTD at the beginning I lost effortless even though I ate 2000 calories more than I do now..  Then I ate way more ate more meat, nuts and all kinds of foods but cutting the milk and grains allowed weight loss of the 20 pounds.. no matter the calories.  

Now my body is used to such a regiment and it does not allow me to drop weight unless It is with yet another TYPE of maybe SEASONAL diet.  But my current body is so used to eating relatively little, 1000 calories, and still I can not drop any weight.   It is my Gatherer body that is so clever, it will protect me form future starvations at all cost.  

I wish I knew how to eat more, but I do not feel deprived, just stifled..

BUT sugar and sweets, I am all in favor of eating it..

I will make a meal for kids and be generous in sugar foods and sweet vegetables.

I will make:
pizza on rice cakes
sweetpotatoe chips in my dehydrator along with bananas, and maybe some meat jerky
spaghetti squash with tomato sauce, Parmesan and meatballs
butternuts soup or dessert
banana rice pudding made with farmer cheese
a bowl of sweet hard candy on the table, and fruit next to it.
Cherry juice or cranberry blended with ice for smoothies and even carrot juice added
and whatever else I can dream up - to introduce the kids and parents to vegetables and grain free eating..  

I wish I could use plain trehalose in place of sugar, but its not for kids? not even over weight kids?

my ode to sweets is not to be afraid of it, but to include it in the overall food pattern.. If you want rice pudding for dinner so be it, with raisins and dates;  or chocolate pudding with allowed quark type cheeses and nuts in place of dinner.  Eat hardy. and then be satisfied.. no steak to go with that. Tomorrow is time enough for the steak and veggies.. I think fun & happiness is more important than fear of food.  and rice cake filled with candied fruit and a dab of cream.. YES! but it has to look nice.. not just a blob.  

Dish patterns facing me, napkins folded, and glasses sparkling.  Sometimes even candles.  anything to build Memories.. not blobs on a plate.  Help your selves to four  times one serving spoon full, but eat what you put on your plate.  and I don't cook to have big trays of left overs or they go in the freezer.
  
    
  
  
    


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You made me hungry just reading about your "substitutions!" They sound delicious. Rice pudding with cheese is delicious! Of course, we always used cheeses that I can't have now, but I think it would be all right with mozzarella. I will have to try it. Yum!!


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In the last year or so I've gotten way away from the daily sweet thing, has helped me a lot.
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Goldie, in the larger natural food stores, it is possible to find hard candies that are made with sweeteners other than refined sugar.  I used to give my kids sour plum hard candy sweetened with rice syrup. I think there are other options, too.  I bought a brand of candy canes sweetened with maple syrup. And there were also some lollipops sweetened with maple syrup.  Even with candy, it's possible to find choices for the occasional candy treat that are not a highly refined non-food sugar.



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I wish I could find a means to do give sweets up and still be friendly ..I would become mean fast..

.. I will not beat on me about some of the CHOICES, since I don't I have other things as 'lovers' in my life..  

Yes substitutions is what life is all about:  with Swami.. I am allowed :

GT2 'Gatherer' (Blood Group O Non-Secretor)Food choices emphasizing hybridized BTD and GTD values
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Frequency: 4 servings weekly.

Portion Size:
Milk: 6 ounces;
Cheeses: 2-4 ounces;
Ghee and Butter 1 teaspoon



Beneficial:
Ghee, Clarified Butter
Quark Cheese  

Neutral: Butter
Cottage Cheese
Farmer Cheese
Manchego Cheese
Paneer Cheese
Ricotta Cheese
Romanian Urda

so some dairy should be adoptable to making creamy things..

Minimize your use of processed cheeses, cream cheese, high butterfat forms of milk and cream. Minimize use of blued cheeses such as Limburger and Roquefort cheese. They have a variety of alkaloid mycotoxins which can be a problem for many genotypes.

Meaning I might be able to use low fat quark which is another whole ball of fun to contemplate.. I will make fresh pineapple & quark ice cream with trehalose smoothies hahaha  



  




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Trehalose has not been studied on kids, so for now "the powers that be" (aka TPTB) are saying not to feed it to kids. Even DPN has to say that, so they don't get into legal trouble. The offiicial line is probably age 18 as the cutoff, even though that makes little biological sense. Parts of the brain are still  growing until the early 20's, while the rest of the body may be fully grown by age 16.

You need to decide what your comfort level is regarding trehalose and these overweight teens- I'm guessing they're your grandchildren? I'm thinking the kids' parents should have some say in the matter as well. Nobody yet knows what trehalose may do in teenagers' developing brains (could be  good or it  could be bad) or what large quantities (like you'd use in baking, not supplementing) would do to growing bodies in general. Would too much at once cause GI distress? Unpleasant detox symptoms? Since trehalose causes "unhealthy cells to die off, making room for healthy cells" there's definitely the possibility of harm to healthy cells if there aren't enough unhealthy cells around.

OTOH, all other sweeteners have known dangers, and trehalose may be a much healthier option for overweight/prediabetic teens. But the studies haven't yet been done. My gut feeling would be to limit added sweetener altogether for these kids. I wouldn't worry about carbs from veggies at all, and I wouldn't worry about modest amounts of sugars from whole fruits. I would prepare meals that are low GI, meaning plenty of protien and fat along with the carbs to slow absorption.

All of the cheeses listed as beneficial or neutral are soft cheeses. Any one of them would make a tasty frozen dessert if blended in the blender with fruits and then frozen. I'd go with full-fat varieties to lower the GI and make them more satisfying.


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Goldie, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying.  However, white sugar IS processed.  I would feel far better about putting sweets on the table regularly if I knew the sugars in them weren't "corn syrup" or some other yucky form of sweetener.  But if you buy treats from the store, that's what you're getting.  

I let my kids have maple syrup in their oatmeal and rice regularly.  Honey too.  But the junky sweets that I have no clue what's in them, we limit.  I think it can do long term damage to eat on a regular basis.  Which is what I see most people letting their kids do.  Every day, or every meal, it's got to be some form of junk going in the mouth.  That is creating a dependency and addiction.  Which is exactly what Coca-cola or proctor gamble or whoever wants you to be. And maybe some people can get away with it.  In our family, it didn't seem to help our health.  It just seems to me avoiding those things have helped my health and my sons to a large degree.  Yeah, it's fun, sweets are great.  But I see them being abused so easily.  I'm not claiming you do, I'm just bringing an opposite side of the story to make a point.  Sweets can hurt your health.  If you've had leaky gut, you know what I'm sayin.


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