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| Saturday, April 21, 2012, 11:25pm |
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I seem to have a SIBO [small intestine bacterial overgrowth]. I do OK on meats, fish, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, broccoli, onions, and fermented vegs, but any other veg (or especially fruit) and I get mucus in stools, the eczema on my scalp gets worse, and I get constipation.
I tried some roasted almonds, I thought they'd be OK, but they weren't. I think I had trouble because almonds are alkaline forming.
Do you think I could add small amounts of millet and/or quinoa right now or should I wait longer? I think I'd do OK with them but I don't want to slow down my healing.
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 12:08am |
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Couple of bottles of Gastro-D and Nystatin powder. After that, Polyflora and Live Cell. |
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Also, since you are an O non-secretor, you can have coconut oil which is anti-fungal.
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Whitey |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 12:10pm |
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Hi,
I'm wanting to correct this with diet, garlic, cayenne, fermented vegetables, etc.
Nystatin is too extreme and unnecessary in most cases, in my opinion and can cause severe side effects.
I don't know if I'd trust Polyflora O. I've had trouble with a lot of things and I'm tired of wasting money on things I can't take.
I've used coconut oil for 10 or 12 years, a lot of it. |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 1:34pm |
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Hi,
I'm wanting to correct this with diet, garlic, cayenne, fermented vegetables, etc.
Nystatin is too extreme and unnecessary in most cases, in my opinion and can cause severe side effects.
I don't know if I'd trust Polyflora O. I've had trouble with a lot of things and I'm tired of wasting money on things I can't take.
I've used coconut oil for 10 or 12 years, a lot of it.
The power of this approach is the specificity: you know what coconut oil does for you. Dr D' Adamo knows what coconut oil does for non-secretors. The question you should ask is "What does Nystatin do for O non-secretors?". Ultimately "What does Nystatin do for me?" is what is at issue. Knowing what it does for people of your type can help you shorten the learning process and evaluate risk and reward. |
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Whitey |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 2:44pm |
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I think many here will attest to the fact that it takes time to correct GI dysbiosis.
I'm surprised Nystatin was even mentioned at this forum. |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 3:34pm |
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I'm surprised Nystatin was even mentioned at this forum.
Did wonders for a case of thrush I was dealing with. This is a self-help forum. What is right for you may not be right for someone else, and vice versa. |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 4:41pm |
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Did wonders for a case of thrush I was dealing with.
Maybe so but I tend to think raw garlic, GSE, Cayenne, Oregano Oil, all could have done the same thing and without a prescription. |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:00pm |
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Whitey, how long have you been following your guidelines?
how compliant are you?
Rome wasn t built all that fast.....have faith and make the right choices when it comes to nurturing your cells |
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"The majority of chronic disease is primarily a food borne illness. We ate ourselves into this problem and we have to eat ourselves out of it." ~ Mark Hyman, MD
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:10pm |
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Maybe so but I tend to think raw garlic, GSE, Cayenne, Oregano Oil, all could have done the same thing and without a prescription.
Nystatin is naturally created my bacteria. Do whatever you believe is best. I'm just trying to help. |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:13pm |
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Am I the only O non-secretor who thinks coconut oil tastes disgusting? I tried dipping my steamed broccoli in coconut oil. Yuck! I prefer butter.  Does anyone have any recipes to make it taste better? I'd like to incorporate it into my diet so I can keep the yeasts under control. Thank you! |
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Does anyone have any recipes to make it taste better? I'd like to incorporate it into my diet so I can keep the yeasts under control.
Not an O, but I don't care for the flavor when cooked with other foods I've tried it with... I tend to take CO by spoon before a meal... |
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| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 9:58pm |
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Am I the only O non-secretor who thinks coconut oil tastes disgusting? I tried dipping my steamed broccoli in coconut oil. Yuck! I prefer butter.  Does anyone have any recipes to make it taste better? I'd like to incorporate it into my diet so I can keep the yeasts under control. Thank you!
No you are not the only one who does not like the oil, My daughter (6) hates it with a vengeance, she used to love it, six months ago. I give her a choice of hemp or coconut oil and she takes hemp every time. lol. sibo will take as long as you let it to heal. the harder you are on yourself the quicker it goes. but you have to continually fight it. if fighting with food only. easier with intrinsa, polyflora, live sell. but will still take a while. |
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also have a teaspoon of ghee every morning, cook your egg in it. all helps
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| Monday, April 23, 2012, 1:19am |
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Whitey, how long have you been following your guidelines?
how compliant are you?
Rome wasn t built all that fast.....have faith and make the right choices when it comes to nurturing your cells
Hi, I've only been on BTD for a week now, and I've been fully compliant, no avoids for a week. I get the feeling there's something out there that will improve my SIBO fast, or, at least, fastER. Diet helps because I eat hardly any carbs at all but onion and broccoli, so, I'm making some ground on that. I did some web surfing and they say SIBO can be caused when people my age are deficient in HCl, which I've been deficient in for 20-30 years or more. Couple that with the raw honey I was taking last year 2-3x a day for weeks on end, and you get SIBO. They say it can be greatly improved by taking a ECPO [enteric coated peppermint oil] capsule 1/2 to 1 hour before each meal, according to a Hydrogen Breath Test. The enteric coating allows the peppermint oil to bypass the stomach and get to where it's needed - in the small intestine, where it's effective against many pathogens and will purify the SI after a while.. I like coconut oil and any coconut product, the oil is a neutral for me all else is avoid. If you don't like one type, try another. Spectrum coconut oil tastes terrible, always did. Nutiva tastes like fresh coconut. Tropical Traditions expeller pressed or their EV organic are both real good. Expeller has a bland taste, EV Organic tastes like coconuts. Each brand of CNOil has it's own unique taste. I haven't had many I didn't like the taste of. |
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I fry or scramble eggs in it....throw in some curry spices if you like. |
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Hi - I just had a hydrogen breath test that came back positive and I supposedly have SIBO or small intestine bacteria overgrowth. I am a AB Secretor. Is there any Blood type products I can use to help heal this condition? I think my Naturopathic Doctor will prescribe a course of antibiotics. I understand AB blood types are conducive to this condition due to low stomach acids. Just want to know what I can do, other than taking AB supplements and adhering to AB diet. Thanks for any input. KV |
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Staying compliant will help. Also try Parmesan cheese 2-3x during a week. No more than 3oz at a time. It helps starve bacteria.
If you didn't have SIBO then I wouldn't recommend it. If SIBO balances out you would probably best stop consuming Parmesan.
There is a fair chance you are the GTD type Hunter. The issue is common among them, and very small amount of occasional cheese as Parmesan is recommended. |
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Katherine, chewing your food well is often overlooked advice. The more surface area you have the easier it is for the stomach acid and enzymes to really break it down. To be really effective, food should be paste like or smoothie like when it leaves your mouth. It sounds like you have a doctor that is clued up. These may be good questions for him or her.
Andrea has a standard protocol that she shares for SIBO. She may post it here. |
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Thanks so much for the reminder to chew. I also will look into the parmesan cheese. I took the GTD test once and had a hard time figuring out what I was, my recollection is that I was an explorer but maybe a teacher. Any further supplements are welcome, am currently on enzyme, AB probiotic, vitamin, hepatiguard, AB deflect, krill oil, Live Cell AB and more. Thank you! |
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Andrea - how do I find your standard protocol for SIBO? KV |
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I am new to this - just chose to input other optional information, but have no idea how to grab an AB avatar. Thanks for your help - just spent 45 minutes trying to figure this out. KV |
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