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chud
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Hi folks, this is my first post.  

A little about me:  I had read a bit about the BTD a few years ago, and it struck me because I love turkey and I am AB+ (not sure of secretor status), but I didn't look into it seriously, and sort of fell off the wagon before I really got started.

Fast forward a few years and I just turned 45, my health has started going south (digestive problems, esophageal problems, high BP, fatigue).  

Also, my family is rife with blood clotting factors (Prothrombin, Factor V Leiden, etc), and many rare blood-related diseases.  Stroke is common in our family.  Some of my google searches on blood disorders led me back to Dr. D's work.

I know I have been eating poorly and drinking too much beer.  I have cut back my drinking, and I am ready to fully get on board with the BTD and Genotype diet.  

I just ordered three of Dr. D's books, and am preparing to order some of the AB vitamin and mineral supplements and the Gastro-D.  

I have been lurking and reading the forum a LOT.  I love it, but it seems like the O's rule the board.     
So I just thought I'd ask the AB's to come out and say hi to a newbie who is a fellow AB'er, and offer any advice you might have for a beginner.  

Thanks!

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Some of my google searches on blood disorders led me back to Dr. D's work.




use the pull down menus, you won t believe all Dr D has made available!!

http://www.dadamo.com/bloodtype_AB.htm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXPJuoBIMY
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http://www.dadamo.com/media/PersonalizedNutrition_AB.pdf

always happy to give a helping hand, so just holler.....
leaving you alone now with all your AB buddies!!  welcome!


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yeeeehhhaaa... welcome complete of mine ....all best wishes outta Switzerland perhaps one day we might beat the O's ...ahem nope I guess we're justamente too little

btw... my older sister is also an AB and has bloodclotting problems- so far... AB's might be concerned... but not us the explorers... and now I'm very curieuse what genotype will fit for you ....


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Quoted from Lola


use the pull down menus, you won t believe all Dr D has made available!!



Thanks for the info!

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btw... my older sister is also an AB and has bloodclotting problems- so far... AB's might be concerned... but not us the explorers... and now I'm very curieuse what genotype will fit for you ....


Thanks, my family traces back to Europe, and my dad's side is German; they all have the blood-clotting factors.

I'm very curious what genotype I'll be as well, and what secretor status (need to figure out how to do that, I have a lot to learn).
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I'll bet for  AB Rh + secretor *warrior*  .... yup those teutonics.... our A'parts lead to..... but a lot of midle eastern peeps are A's as well and don't have any problems in that way...


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By the way Amazone, I have a question for you as a fellow AB'er.  Do you drink coffee?  There seems to be some confusion about AB's and coffee.  
I found this link, but thought I'd ask you.

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/.....b-and-coffee?blog=27


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hi overthere

I stopped drinking café since 2006 and I feel much better since.... but this is due to
the effect that I was obliged to get to know about my genotype....and my last experience with a cup of café was a panic attac later... very

since then- I am a biiig fan of greentea & lemon and freshly cut ginger slices ...


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Good morning, chud.

According to population studies, about 5% are AB, so we are severely under-represented in total numbers...

I am also largely German descent.  Although haven't had diagnosis of any thick blood problems...  My dad has had a stroke and several TIAs (small stroke-like symptoms), but after the TIAs my mom said that they had eaten chicken for several meals just prior, so has removed chicken from their diet and he hasn't had any since...  I hope it holds.

I have never drunk coffee.  I couldn't stand the taste.  As a SWAMIed Nomad genotype, it is an avoid for me, so I don't have to worry about why I should be drinking it but can't...


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Thanks for the info on coffee y'all, I think I am going to cut it out, since I only started drinking it regularly in the past couple of years.  

I like the idea of drinking green tea with lemon instead anyway.

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I am also largely German descent.  Although haven't had diagnosis of any thick blood problems...  My dad has had a stroke ...



My dad had a stroke too, which is how this hit home for me.  Everyone in our family was shocked because he is an MD, and has always lived a very healthy lifestyle; not on BTD, but lots of fruits and veggies, vitamins, and no weight problem.  He has never smoked, or drank much either.  But then three years ago, he had the stroke.

You and your dad might want to tell your doctor to do some blood work; when you do, specifically tell them to check for Prothrombin and Factor V ("five") Leiden.  My family doc had never heard of these, but when I asked him to check for them in my annual blood work he did.  It's easy for them to do, but you have to specifically ask for it.  It may answer a lot of questions for you.

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I think my blood gets a little thick.  I take vitamin E sometimes and cod liver oil every day.  I think that helps it.  And antioxidents from berrries and fruits I guess help clean up the blood too.

Welcome.  And remember this.  I'm not Joe.  


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Thanks.  

Question about turkey:  this seems to be our protein of choice as AB'ers (and I love it).  But I have heard that dark turkey meat is preferable over white, is that correct?  Just asking because white meat turkey (breast meat) seems to be easier to find at the store, and at restaurants.  I assume both kinds are ok though, right?
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I have heard that dark turkey meat is preferable over white, is that correct?  I assume both kinds are ok though, right?

There are differences in the nutrient content of white and dark meat, but both have the same rating per BTD / GTD...  I like dark meat better, but eat both.


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Thanks!  

One other question, regarding grains.

Reading through this forum (which again, is well represented with Type O's) I see a lot of talk about giving up bread and grains entirely due to the various problems that people experience from them, however from what little I've read so far (being a newb) I understand that us AB'ers actually do ok (or are at least neutral) on many types of grains, is that correct?  

What is y'alls attitude toward bread, and tortillas?  Obviously corn tortillas are not good because they're corn, but what about flour tortillas?  Thoughts?

(I know I'm a newb who hasn't hit Genotype or Swami yet, so please forgive the simple questions.)  
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I understand that us AB'ers actually do ok (or are at least neutral) on many types of grains, is that correct?  

What is y'alls attitude toward bread, and tortillas?  Obviously corn tortillas are not good because they're corn, but what about flour tortillas?  Thoughts?

What does the diet you are following suggest for AB?
All of the books have recommendations for portion size and frequency of the specific food groups.

Have you looked at the Typebase for ratings?
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

My specific usage is to use whole grains, rather than breads for most of my grain intake, but that doesn't necessarily make it the only way...  It is very difficult to find bread without any additives and it is easier for me to use whole grain rather than making bread.  We haven't used bread on a regular basis for so long that it is a non-entity most of the time, now.


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Hi Chud and welcome to you!  

I hope you can get a Secretor test soon.  If you decide to stick with the BTD for a period of time before considering the Genotype diet or SWAMI, it will enable you to target more accurately your own body.  http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002

The book, LR4YT is a wonderful one to own and it really helps with understanding the nature of each blood type along with secretor type.  And you get lifestyle, exercise and supplement recommendations also.  http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED003



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Hi Chud and welcome to you!  


Thanks Victoria!

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I hope you can get a Secretor test soon.  If you decide to stick with the BTD for a period of time before considering the Genotype diet or SWAMI, it will enable you to target more accurately your own body.  http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002


The Secretor test is top of my list, I will be ordering it asap.

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The book, LR4YT is a wonderful one to own and it really helps with understanding the nature of each blood type along with secretor type.  And you get lifestyle, exercise and supplement recommendations also.  http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED003


I have ordered the ER4YT and the Genotype book, but not that one.
Thanks for explaining the benefits of that one to me, I have a lot of reading to do, but I will order it as well.  
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btw...dark turkey meat contains more tryptophane...important for us and sleep and mental issues .... btw... I prefere lamb meat


and don't forget ginger slices and lemon are both légèrement blood purifiers and helping for a good bloodstream....


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btw...dark turkey meat contains more tryptophane...important for us and sleep and mental issues .... btw... I prefer lamb meat


I haven't eaten much lamb in the past, but now that I know it is beneficial for me as an AB I have been trying it, however it is not as readily available as turkey.
How do you usually prepare it?
  
I did find a restaurant just down the street from my office that does mongolian style barbecue, and they offer lamb, which is great.  
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I haven't eaten much lamb in the past,...
How do you usually prepare it?

Here is a thread on cooking lamb...  It was contributed to by all types, so use your discretion with the ingredient lists:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-btdlf1/m-1333401746/s-all/


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Lemon and water is a natural blood thinner-- I drink it every day.


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Thanks ABJoe for the link about preparing lamb.
Btw, I grilled some lamb burger patties that I found at the store today, and they were good!

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Lemon and water is a natural blood thinner-- I drink it every day.


Yes thanks Andrea, I have been drinking water with lemon, or water with lemon and lime.  
It seems to work out well for me as a substitute for soda and beer.

I've also been drinking green tea with lemon in the morning, instead of coffee.
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Thanks ABJoe for the link about preparing lamb.
Btw, I grilled some lamb burger patties that I found at the store today, and they were good!



Yes thanks Andrea, I have been drinking water with lemon, or water with lemon and lime.  
It seems to work out well for me as a substitute for soda and beer.

I've also been drinking green tea with lemon in the morning, instead of coffee.


Way to go, Chud!  



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Welcome chud.  So glad you special AB's have another one of you. Found out one of my girlfriends', from a few years back, is an AB+ and is interested in coming to the forum.  Not well at the moment.  Seeing specialist tomorrow.  Gave her the Eat Right Cancer book to have a look through.  When she comes back to see me next week I will set her up on the forum.

Yeaaayyyy for you chud on the lemon and green tea.

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I found this in the "garland of gratitude for Dr. D" thread, and I thought it might be helpful/inspirational for other AB's:


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I'm AB blood type & I'm loving my dark meat turkey, my swiss cheese, my goat milk, my granola in apple sauce & tofu marinated in olive oil, kelp, turmeric, soya sauce & garlic! Gone are chicken, beef, bananas, oranges and cow milk...i have lost 45 lbs in less than 6 months (I'm back to my tennis playing weight of 150!) my energy is through the roof again & more importantly i don't take anti-inflammatory pills anymore & haven't seen the acupuncturist or massage therapist in months!
thank you Dr. D'adamo 4 giving me life again!
P.S. and i just don't like anything to do with cow products, cottage cheese and yogurt give me the runs and hurt my stomach


Edit:  I believe yogurt is actually listed as "beneficial" for AB's.  Just wanted to clarify that so that people aren't misinformed.

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some of us are lactose intolerant .... me too...


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some of us are lactose intolerant .... me too...


Understood, I know that we are not all going to be exactly identical just because we share blood type.
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Can some of you AB's share your meal plans?
What are some of your favorite meals?  

Since I am new, my meals so far are lacking creativity.  
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I eat a pretty boring meal plan.  I choose from my beneficial foods to make up meals as I like.  I'm typically the only one that eats what I fix, so I just have to please myself.

Breakfast is typically eggs, scrambled in ghee with a side of steamed vegetables.

Oatmeal with nuts, cinnamon, applesauce...

Turkey, rice (or other compliant grain), and vegetables makes a good lunch or dinner.

Split peas, cooked with onions, (other vegetables), parsley, and spices to taste...  

Sweet potatoes can be added into meals within limitation of the frequency guidelines.


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very little grains, A2B nonnie lists for veggies & fruits in lr4yt....entre-autre
it's plus-minus adequate to my swami recommendations    no potatoes at all very little starches indeed  

and I feel good


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I was reading in Dr. D's little AB food guide and it mentioned amaranth.

I had never heard of this before, but he said it was a grain and that there were cereals made from it, which are available at health food stores.

So I went around the corner to the health food grocery store near my house and they had amaranth cereal.  It looks just like corn flakes, but it's amaranth flakes, not corn.  It's good!
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Just wanted to say thanks to y'all for sharing meal ideas above, it's appreciated.

ABJoe, I just aaw this post of yours in the "Artic Zero" thread discussing alternatives to ice cream, and thought I'd put it here for AB'ers to reference:

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I would be happier eating a bowl of fruit with plain yogurt and cinnamon.  I'm sure you can come up with some beneficial combination that you would be happier with as well.
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amaranth isn't that a seed or grass so far no gluten nor gliadin ....


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very little grains, A2B nonnie lists for veggies & fruits in lr4yt....entre-autre
it's plus-minus adequate to my swami recommendations    no potatoes at all very little starches indeed  

and I feel good


That's interesting because Dr. D's books say that generally AB's do well on grains.  

That's actually part of the reason I started this thread for AB'ers...I felt that the dominance of O's on the forum and the resulting widespread anti-grain sentiment was actually a bit misleading for someone like myself who is new to BTD and happens to be type AB.  

But I understand that we are all individuals.  
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Sometimes people who are gluten intolerant will eliminate all grains, at least for a period of time.  This particular food intolerance can affect people of any blood type, but probably doesn't indicate the approach of the majority of type AB.



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That's interesting because Dr. D's books say that generally AB's do well on grains.  

We can have intestinal lining damage when we start the diet that makes eating some otherwise acceptable foods very difficult.  It is an individual response that we have to deal with and/or heal from.

I do use grain, but I have to be careful which ones.  Rice, quinoa, oatmeal are the ones I eat most, although flax seed is OK.  All of these are beneficial per SWAMI.  Although millet is supposed to be beneficial as well, but I wasn't very happy when I ate it.  I decided to wait a while before re-introducing it.

Also, if you move to SWAMI, you may find that you get less acceptable grains or that some move to a lower rating as more factors are taken into account...  For instance, per Live Right, almost all forms of wheat are acceptable for AB, but on my SWAMI, since I have indicated white lines in my fingerprints, all wheat (except 100% sprouted) is best avoided...  Several other grains have been "downgraded" as well.


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So I went around the corner to the health food grocery store near my house and they had amaranth cereal.

Is there any other grain in it?

What brand is it?


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I have a pretty long list of grains that are good for me, and I'm supposedly allowed 4 servings a day.  And when I eat oatmeal, I feel SO GOOD after it.  I mean, like, like the books says.  Like it's medicine.  I swear I can feel power surge through my whole body after eating it.  I don't know if it's just the heat or what.  I like rice quite a bit too.  I eat long grain brown, short grain brown, basmati brown, and white basmati.  The browns are more satisfying, but the white seems to give me energy too.  I don't care what others say about grains being bad for you.  I think I said it earlier, when I stopped them, I lost weight too fast and had no energy.  So........  I eat them.  And I love them.  

However, my list echoes JOes'.  All wheat products are black dots for me (which is in the avoid list but eating every once in a while is better than the ones without a black dot.  Sprouted wheat is neutral for me.  So....  I just don't eat wheat.  But to be honest, I may try to eat a little here and there, just because I'm trying to train my body and mind to not be so anal.  I would like to have some choices for traveling.  I used to eat all kinds of foods before I had health problems, and didn't seem to have problems with them at the time.  So.....  maybe someday I won't be so sensitive.  I probably said all this already.  I repeat myself sometimes.  Sorry.  But I had gotten real sensitive, physically and mentally, to a lot of foods.  Now I'm trying to make a comeback against that.  I think the downside to BTD is that when we read that some foods are like "poison" in our system, it sets us up to view foods as bad.  And I just don't agree with it.  Some foods that are supposed avoids in the BTD become neutral or even superfoods on our swami's, and I think it's the wrong message to focus on about foods being poisons.  I think there is some wisdom in knowing what foods mess with us.  Like Corn and wheat, or chicken for us AB's.  But even at that, if I was starving, literally, and all there was to eat was Corn and chicken.  I think I'd eat it.  I'd be doing everything I could to find something else, but you get what I mean.  Yeah, I'm sure some foods can do some damage to us.  But we have to keep it all in perspective.  These are my viewpoints.  They don't apply to everyone.  But they make sense to me.

So to make a short answer long, yeah, I like the grains.  At least, the ones I've found that work for me.  I ate amaranth once and I felt really awful for a week though.  I'm not sure what it was.  It might have been the way I prepared it.


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I have a pretty long list of grains that are good for me, and I'm supposedly allowed 4 servings a day.  And when I eat oatmeal, I feel SO GOOD after it.  I mean, like, like the books says.  Like it's medicine.  I swear I can feel power surge through my whole body after eating it.  I don't know if it's just the heat or what.  I like rice quite a bit too.  I eat long grain brown, short grain brown, basmati brown, and white basmati.  The browns are more satisfying, but the white seems to give me energy too.  I don't care what others say about grains being bad for you.  I think I said it earlier, when I stopped them, I lost weight too fast and had no energy.  So........  I eat them.  And I love them.  

However, my list echoes JOes'.  All wheat products are black dots for me (which is in the avoid list but eating every once in a while is better than the ones without a black dot.  Sprouted wheat is neutral for me.  So....  I just don't eat wheat.  But to be honest, I may try to eat a little here and there, just because I'm trying to train my body and mind to not be so anal.  I would like to have some choices for traveling.  I used to eat all kinds of foods before I had health problems, and didn't seem to have problems with them at the time.  So.....  maybe someday I won't be so sensitive.  I probably said all this already.  I repeat myself sometimes.  Sorry.  But I had gotten real sensitive, physically and mentally, to a lot of foods.  Now I'm trying to make a comeback against that.  I think the downside to BTD is that when we read that some foods are like "poison" in our system, it sets us up to view foods as bad.  And I just don't agree with it.  Some foods that are supposed avoids in the BTD become neutral or even superfoods on our swami's, and I think it's the wrong message to focus on about foods being poisons.  I think there is some wisdom in knowing what foods mess with us.  Like Corn and wheat, or chicken for us AB's.  But even at that, if I was starving, literally, and all there was to eat was Corn and chicken.  I think I'd eat it.  I'd be doing everything I could to find something else, but you get what I mean.  Yeah, I'm sure some foods can do some damage to us.  But we have to keep it all in perspective.  These are my viewpoints.  They don't apply to everyone.  But they make sense to me.

So to make a short answer long, yeah, I like the grains.  At least, the ones I've found that work for me.  I ate amaranth once and I felt really awful for a week though.  I'm not sure what it was.  It might have been the way I prepared it.


Thanks JJR, I agree.    
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So I think this way of eating is starting to work on me.  

I am at the point where I feel different.  It's like a strange sense of calm; no distress.

I have also started to experience the easy BM's that some have mentioned.

It is a strange feeling to just feel...ok.  I had a little bit of an esophageal spasm yesterday, but other than that, I have felt pretty good.  And I have confirmed that "when I stray, I pay" as someone said.  
When I do stray, and feel crappy, it makes me wonder...did I always feel like that before, and just not realize it?!?  
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chud,..... those spasm can be psychosomatic related... we the AB's might be sometimes extremely sensitive  and/or also a bit reluctant to our own feelings ... we prefere to stay in our heads...NT'-wise (intuition & thinking) but sometimes we need a bit more the F-side...called feeling when our troath chacra might be closed..we need furthermore *to talk* to exprime ourselfs correctly.... so far..so well.. I think
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Rice, quinoa, oatmeal are the ones I eat most, although flax seed is OK.


Yes, I like rice and oatmeal.  Thanks for reminding me about quinoa, I'm going to try that.


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Also, if you move to SWAMI, you may find that you get less acceptable grains or that some move to a lower rating as more factors are taken into account...  For instance, per Live Right, almost all forms of wheat are acceptable for AB, but on my SWAMI, since I have indicated white lines in my fingerprints, all wheat (except 100% sprouted) is best avoided...  Several other grains have been "downgraded" as well.


I will probably move to the Swami software after a month or so, right now I need to read the books I have already bought. I don't want to do too many things at once!  
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When I do stray, and feel crappy, it makes me wonder...did I always feel like that before, and just not realize it?!?  

I think the answer to this is both, "Yes" and "No".  I think you felt bad, just maybe not to that extent...

I say this because when I first started BTD, I stopped all corn for 3 weeks, then felt an "openness or spaciousness" at the base of the skull.  I wondered if it was related or what could have caused it.  

A couple of days later, we were out somewhere and I absent mindedly ate a very small pastry and almost immediately got a pounding headache in "spacy area" of my head.  Now, I don't think I walked around with that much headache all of the time. What I think happened is that some of the nerves numbed or responded less over time to allow me to continue to live, but the feeling turned into a pressure in that area.  However, now that I had reduced the aggravating influence, the nerves had returned to full response status so I felt the new response much more...  An immediate reinforcement to reduce that activity.  


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openness and spaciousness I feld when trying once guarana and the same with sweat on my nose and chest while giving a try for the first time to macadamian nuts.... jaminei have I been sick.... ......


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chud,..... those spasm can be psychosomatic related... (snip)
you see how psyche things are related to body reactions ...


Well I disagree.  And with all due respect, I think it is wrong to put that on type AB's.  Heck, if bad feelings are just psychosomatic, then who's to say that the good benefits we are feeling are not also all in our heads?  See how that works?!?  I think we need to listen to what our bodies are telling us.
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Is there any other grain in it?

What brand is it?


Arrowhead Mills - Organic Amaranth Flakes
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Arrowhead Mills - Organic Amaranth Flakes

Thanks, I can look for it at the HFS...


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I love that peanuts are highly beneficial for AB's, they are a common snack that is easy to find.  
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I eat a bunch of types of nuts in significant quantities.  I love them.  They seem to do me well.  They help add calories for me too.


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I'm loving how pineapple helps with digestion.  
I read about it in er4yt and it really works.

It is beneficial for us AB's, and also for A's and B's.  


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Yeah, I feel like I need to eat it regularly to keep things moving.  There are other fruits that seem to do that for me.  Plums, apples, grapefruit, kiwi, any fresh fruits, even frozen. Strawberries, blueberries.  All the fruits seem to help me with this I think.  Plus a salad with romaine every day.


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Plus a salad with romaine every day.


Thanks for the tip about the romaine salad, what kind of dressing do you use?
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I'm loving how pineapple helps with digestion.  
I read about it in er4yt and it really works.


There's a pineapple smoothie recipe for ABs in the NAP catalogue.

I think there's a pronounced flavor of pineapple in NAP's tea for type A's, too?
Check it out - perhaps a cup of that would be a nice digestif for you.





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Thanks for the tip about the romaine salad, what kind of dressing do you use?


Olive oil.  That's it.  Although I have used walnut oil too.  That's good on a salad.  When I go to eat at panera, I just don't use any dressing.  They don't have just olive oil.


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Olive oil.  That's it.  Although I have used walnut oil too.  That's good on a salad.  When I go to eat at panera, I just don't use any dressing.  They don't have just olive oil.


Not knowing what "panera" was, I googled it.
I ended up looking at its menu, and they have a "Greek salad" with their "Greek vinaigrette".
Vinaigrette is made with oil (usually olive), and a Greek vinaigrette, if authentic, definitely is, which means they've got olive oil in the pantry, unless the dressing is ( ) bottled.



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I am new to this forum and to this new way of eating. AB+ here!! I've been trying this book ER4YBT for about 3-4 weeks now and I feel better (not bloated and so fatigued) BUT my question is...how long will this "diet" take? I may have lost a couple of pounds but I need to lose more. I am eating from the beneficial and neutral list, but still drinking 2 cups of coffee a day. Not sure if coffee is an avoid, some say yes, some say no. Lets keep this going so I can see how other AB blood type people are doing..



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I am new to this forum and to this new way of eating. AB+ here!! I've been trying this book ER4YBT for about 3-4 weeks now and I feel better (not bloated and so fatigued) BUT my question is...how long will this "diet" take?

This "diet" is a healing diet.  Weight loss (or gain) will happen based on the body's priority during the healing process.  Expect to live with BTD, or a more advanced version for the rest of your life.        Once you feel the benefits, you will never want to go back to a standard diet...  

PS  I realize that the AB Avatars aren't all together, and that there may not be enough to choose specifically the information you know with having error, but it is better to show less information that is all accurate than to show errant information.  You can always add additional information in your signature or personal message space.


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Welcome Chud!

I, too, am happy when I see AB blood types posting.  I have been absent from the BTD forum for a while, getting a new degree & job has swallowed most of my time in the last few years. If it wasn't for my husband's support, I would have been sunk.

Some advice I'd like to share from my experience is to:

     Concentrate on what we should eat, and not waste time obsessing over what we shouldn't have.

     Be sure you have the right foods for your blood type on hand (my day just isn't the same if I've run out of limes!).

     Read ingredient labels of packaged foods every time...they can change!

     Avoid becoming the food police for other members of your household, it is always better to make eating meals a positive experience.

Welcome again! Pleas do not feel you need to apologize for "simple questions" as it is good to see your progress on the learning curve. I think it's a valuable part of how we all keep learning from each other.
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My son took me out for Mothers Day and I ate CHICKEN. I have not had chicken in about month and I feel very full and stuffed. Its been 2 hours since we ate and i don't think that I will eat any dinner, I am still that stuffed. Hopefully my hot green tea will help.
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One meal probably won't hurt too much.  Hope you had a great time with your son...  just focus back on your beneficial foods and maybe pop a Deflect to help deal with the chicken lectin...


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Not knowing what "panera" was, I googled it.
I ended up looking at its menu, and they have a "Greek salad" with their "Greek vinaigrette".
Vinaigrette is made with oil (usually olive), and a Greek vinaigrette, if authentic, definitely is, which means they've got olive oil in the pantry, unless the dressing is ( ) bottled.



More and more restaurants are saving money by cutting their olive oil with some other kind of oil, so it pays to be cautious and inquisitive if it is important to you.



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My son took me out for Mothers Day and I ate CHICKEN. I have not had chicken in about month and I feel very full and stuffed. Its been 2 hours since we ate and i don't think that I will eat any dinner, I am still that stuffed. Hopefully my hot green tea will help.


I know how you feel, I ate some chicken about a week ago during a special occasion where it wss the main dish.  I felt terrible afterwards.  Chicken is definitely an avoid for me, I get bad heartburn and feel like my food is stuck in my chest.  I can occasionally eat some steak and get away with it, but chicken will make me pay every time.

I try to avoid chicken altogether, but I plan to purchase some of those Deflect pills that have been mentioned, for the rare emergency.
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Olive oil.  That's it.  Although I have used walnut oil too.  That's good on a salad.  


I found a thread about salad dressings, apparently you can mix some lemon juice with olive oil for a good AB-friendly salad dressing:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GC/m-1167497834/s-new/#num18

As a side note, it seems curious to me that vinegar is an avoid for everyone but B's, since it has been viewed as a beneficial drink since ancient times by so many cultures (ex: the ancient Romans carried it in flasks to add it to water or sour wine).  But anyway, if Dr. D says avoid, I trust him.
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I found a thread about salad dressings, apparently you can mix some lemon juice with olive oil for a good AB-friendly salad dressing:
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Lemon juice has always been too tart for me to use as a salad dressing.  I like to use a little sweeter compliant juice like pineapple or tangerine juice...


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I hear you on the vinegar.  I don't eat it, but I miss it.  Plus, it is in other foods.  But that's why I don't usually eat dressings.  Personally, I think if a person ate it once in a while, it would be no big deal.  But therein lies the problem.  The foods in our society are always "laced" with something that is OK in moderation probably.  But it's like everything has it in it. Sugar being one of those.  So, I end up avoiding a lot of things.  Which is kind of a pain.  Yeah, the dressing at panera is all in one.  They don't carry just olive oil by itself.  

I actually am learning to be less anal and try things that are more "worldy".  I have been very particular and have avoided so many things to a fault.  I need to relax about some of it.  But the rest of my family like my Mom and sister are the opposite.  They loosely follow BTD, and will tell you they are being strict, but every time I see them eating they eat things I have avoided, and they should be too for the BTD.  But whatever.  We all have to figure out what works for us.  

I went to a Mothers Day Buffet at a Country Club this weekend and survived!!!  However, there were so many things I wanted to eat but was afraid to.  I still kept it relatively safe.  I had them make me an omelette with just mushrooms.  And the only veggies I had were potatoes.  Because everything else had onions mixed in.  And I didn't eat a salad, which I love, because I'm too grossed out by 17 million people sticking their hands all over everything.  I avoided fresh fruit because of that too.  But I had already had some for breakfast.  But my avoid thing was I ate half of a blueberry muffin.  Muffins are good because they are usually no horribly sweet.  I don't usually do well on too much sugar.  They had lots of other good desserts I would've liked to try, but I would've had a racing heart beat probably after eating something like that.  But I'm thankful that I survived eat at a buffet.  I was fighting anxiety about it, especially because of all the people.  It's just not comfortable for me to eat where everyone is touching the spoons and who knows what else.  Kids were there too of course and you know how they can be.  

My immune system must be getting better though.  Because praise the Lord I didn't get sick.  I had a pretty loose bowel that night, but it seemed like that was the worst of it.


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Olive oil.  That's it.  Although I have used walnut oil too.  That's good on a salad.  When I go to eat at panera, I just don't use any dressing.  They don't have just olive oil.


I don't know about y'all, but -
Any European-style restaurant (i.e., the kind that offers "Greek Salad") that doesn't have any olive oil in its pantry sounds like one heckuva scary establishment to me!



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Why?  The rest of the ingredients are fresh and it is a lot better choice to eat there than many places.  I just don't get any dressings.  It's just that simple.  Have you ever eaten at a Panera?  It has a been a huge blessing to me because it's one of the few places I could eat without feeling strange after going there.  But any restaurant you go to is going to be imperfect with their selections.  If I want to be compliant, I have to modify what they offer.  


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Lemon juice has always been too tart for me to use as a salad dressing.  I like to use a little sweeter compliant juice like pineapple or tangerine juice...


I love this dressing. I thought it would be to tart. But the garlic or rosemary must off-set the flavor somehow.

http://sarahscucinabella.com/2010/04/27/lemon-rosemary-vinaigrette-recipe/

I believe it would be good for A/B groups.   The trick is to make the garlic, rosemary, lemon juice paste.


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I love this dressing. I thought it would be to tart. But the garlic or rosemary must off-set the flavor somehow.

http://sarahscucinabella.com/2010/04/27/lemon-rosemary-vinaigrette-recipe/

I believe it would be good for A/B groups.   The trick is to make the garlic, rosemary, lemon juice paste.


Looks good, thanks for sharing that!
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Olive oil.  That's it.  Although I have used walnut oil too.  That's good on a salad.  When I go to eat at panera, I just don't use any dressing.  They don't have just olive oil.


When you go there, maybe you can bring a little vial of OO with you!  



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I used to do that.  But I just skip dressing now.  I really don't miss it that much.  Although some oil at a meal is probably a good thing.  I eat the potato chips with it, and they have oil.  So......


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I used to do that.  But I just skip dressing now.  I really don't miss it that much.  Although some oil at a meal is probably a good thing.  I eat the potato chips with it, and they have oil.  So......


I don't know where you're at with salt, but a very light dusting of salt through an OO-coated salad is nice.  Herbs, too...


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Salt is good.  I have low BP, so I need salt.  The chips have salt on them.  But yeah, when I'm at home, I add salt to my food.  Although it's still not as much as some people.  


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I buy these ones from the store that are fried in olive oil.  Mmmmmmmmm......

"Good Health Natural Foods" is the brand.  The ones at Panera use non compliant oils.  But I don't care.  It's one of the few things I eat that stray from the diet.  I don't eat them that much and I'm already so anal, it does my mind good to know I can survive if I'm "off the list".  


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What type of chips do y'all eat?

I usually don't eat any purchased chips (or other processed foods with much salt added) because the salt seems to bother me...


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I buy these ones from the store that are fried in olive oil.  Mmmmmmmmm......

"Good Health Natural Foods" is the brand.  


Thanks, I'll check my neighborhood health-food store and see if they have those.

Are there any AB-compliant crackers, that could be eaten along with something like mozzarella cheese for an AB-compliant snack?

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Yeah, I've seen rice crackers in the oriental aisle at the supermarket we go too.  I'm pretty sure I saw some with compliant ingredients, but I've never been willing to try them yet.  I might have to go back and look though.  Because it sounds like a good idea.  But if you have oriental places, they might carry something like this.  They usually have rice noodles too, that are just rice and water.  I've eaten those before.  Although they never seemed like really GREAT for me, they never seemed to hurt all that much.  I remember thinking they tended to slow down my digestion.  But it has been a while.  


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Are there any AB-compliant crackers, that could be eaten along with something like mozzarella cheese for an AB-compliant snack?

We eat Blue Diamond Almond Rice crackers once in a while...  They aren't perfect, though...  You might look at those to verify compliance with your diet...
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Dia.....339637316&sr=8-1

You could also check the recipe center for recipes that are compliant for a cracker...

I've also checked into WASA 100% rye crackers...  Here is one link:
http://www.amazon.com/Wasa-Cri.....339637543&sr=1-4



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yeah, I gotta try some of those rye crackers.  I've never seen them in a store though.  Although I don't know if I was looking real hard.  I'm not sure I want to pay shipping just to "try" one though.

Do you eat them Joe?


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Do you eat them Joe?

I have, but I've settled on Lundberg's Lightly Salted Rice Cakes for my crunchy snack of choice...  I get a much better piece price and I share them with DD, who uses them as a replacement for popcorn...


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I haven't eaten much lamb in the past, but now that I know it is beneficial for me as an AB I have been trying it, however it is not as readily available as turkey.
How do you usually prepare it?  


Lamb is so easy to prepare and  is very "forgiving!" In other words, you don't have to be a super chef! I had never eaten a lot of lamb, either, before it was a super food on my diet. But with the spices and herbs I use, I can hardly tell the difference between it and beef (which I don't eat anymore). I have never made lamb stew that the meat wasn't tender! And it is so simple. In fact, I have never cooked or eaten lamb anywhere that wasn't tender. I love it!



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Yeah, rice cakes we eat.  I don't eat them all the time lately, but I do eat them.  


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Lamb is so easy to prepare and  is very "forgiving!" In other words, you don't have to be a super chef! I had never eaten a lot of lamb, either, before it was a super food on my diet. But with the spices and herbs I use, I can hardly tell the difference between it and beef (which I don't eat anymore). I have never made lamb stew that the meat wasn't tender! And it is so simple. In fact, I have never cooked or eaten lamb anywhere that wasn't tender. I love it!



Besides stew, how do you like to prepare it?  So far, all I've done is grill it.

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Besides stew, how do you like to prepare it?  So far, all I've done is grill it.



Grilled lamb chops are great. Use herbs. Use garlic. Use olive oil. Quick. Easy. Can make small portions, serve a few folks, or a dinner party...

The little tenderloins are another option for quick prep.

I like ground lamb, as burgers or in a shepherd's / moussaka sort of pie.

Longer cooking: Stews and roasts. You can BBQ a butterflied leg o'.
The internet is full of lamb recipes.
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Longer cooking: Stews and roasts. You can BBQ a butterflied leg o'.
The internet is full of lamb recipes.



I did a leg o' lamb in the crockpot, and it came out GREAT!  I didn't do anything fancy either, just placed the frozen leg o' lamb in the crockpot on low, with garlic and pepper, half cup of water, and some potatoes and carrots.  By evening it was delicious, better than I expected.  

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Sounds delicious.  FWIW, I've heard you're not supposed to put it in there frozen.  I can't tell you why though, so it's probably nothing.  I think it might have something to do with the amount of time it's at a certain temp.  Anyways...

The slow cookers are great for tender meat though.  I've used too much water in the past though and that has a tenancy to dry the meat out by letting all the fat go into the water.


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Apparently AB's have a higher risk of stroke.  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/h.....udy-finds/51245948/1

I'm not surprised, since we have thicker blood that clots more easily.
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Apparently AB's have a higher risk of stroke.  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/h.....udy-finds/51245948/1

I'm not surprised, since we have thicker blood that clots more easily.

Maintain a beneficial diet - at least without chicken - and you'll probably be OK...


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I didn't read the whole thread, but want to say that we have a good number of ABs who regularly contribute to the forum considering the percentage of them in the population.
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Maybe there are slightly more Os than the ratio of the population, but we all enjoy this forum.

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Maintain a beneficial diet - at least without chicken - and you'll probably be OK...


Thanks, I'm hoping that you're right.  

As an AB, if I had to pick the single most valuable choice or policy that ER4YT has taught me, it is that I should avoid chicken.  
As they say, knowing is half the battle.  

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I really miss chicken.  Especially KFC.  hehehhehehehe  


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I really miss chicken.

I miss the convenience, but not the associated joint and muscle aches I got from it...


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I miss the convenience, but not the associated joint and muscle aches I got from it...


It is convenient, that's true.  I didn't realize how convenient and prevalent chicken was until I started doing ER4YT.  I went to Chili's a few weeks ago with my wife and some friends, and 90% of their menu was chicken.  I had never noticed that before I started eating this way.  The only things they had that were close to being AB-friendly were a turkey sandwich, and a salmon dish...that was it.
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Go to Whole Foods Market and try to whisk through the Prepared Foods counter (both hot and cold) and all the self-service tables / offerings.

Chicken-City.

But don't worry. Anything that doesn't have chicken in it is very likely to be particularly tomato-heavy.  


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But don't worry. Anything that doesn't have chicken in it is very likely to be particularly tomato-heavy.  


Well I love tomato sauce (I love italian food).  
I guess for B-Secretors tomato is an avoid, but for me as an AB-non it's beneficial (cancer fighting super beneficial even!).
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Well, no I don't miss the side afffects either.  But I loved the way it tasted.  I miss fried chicken more than sweets probably.  


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I was thinking about it today and wondered what it would be like if all AB's and B's knew that chicken was something they should avoid.

What effect would it have on stroke rates nationwide, and on health care costs overall?  

I bet the improvement would be astounding.

This will probably never happen though since many people don't even know what blood type they are.



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Plus, chicken is touted as a "healthy" meat.  But most of them are raised so poorly.  Even if they are good for your blood type, the run of the mill chicken is kind of a scary deal.  Now organic or farm raised ones that are mass produced would be a whole lot better deal.  


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India/Pakistan/China are loaded with Bs and ABs. Russia, too, the further East you go moreso. They also eat plenty of chicken. If you're curious about this, then compare various disease rates there with countries much lower in B/AB incidence.

That's the cool thing about the B allele (OK, one of many cool things): It's more localized than the A. If chicken consumption is significantly statistically related to a certain disease in B/AB subjects, you can find B/AB-heavy countries where chicken is eaten and track/guesstimate it, to a degree.

If you're interested, the Ainu people of Hokkaido have the highest rate of AB of anyone on earth - something like 20%! That's be a really interesting sample for you. Find out if they eat chicken!  


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Someone mentioned increased risks of blot clot or stroke & although I don't have the solution I just try to maintain a high pH. I generally consume anywhere between 75-85 oz of water per day, which should keep the blood alkaline.

Also to not miss foods like chicken, shrimp, ice cream, etc., I sometimes substitute "High's" with "Neutrals" to curb the withdraw. For instance, I noticed some of you eat rice cakes, but I'd rather just eat the bread the you would normally get, which would be a "neutral". It's translated by the body as food rather than medicine, but before ER4YT, you were probably doing this 33.3% of the time anyways. My "highs" probably total 80%, 15% "neutral" & 5% "avoid".

Plus if my desire for the "avoids" reaches a dangerous point, I'll just reset the body through a fast. By the time I'm finished I'm over joyed to return to food regardless if it's back to my traditional AB diet. That feeling can stay up to 3-4 months. Also your taste buds are harmonized in the sense that your "Highs" will taste like filet mignon.
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Hi All

I'm a 57 year old male with arthritis, spinal stenosis, bulging disks with obesity ( have lost 75 pounds since April 30). I am an AB- and just found out about the BTD this past Saturday. I ordered the erfyt book and have done a lot of reading in this website as I am in rehab for physical therapy. I was eating chicken, shrimp, with the occasional hamburger as Iwas following Atkins and did lose weight but felt terrible. No energy and anxious with my mind feeling cloudy. I am looking forward to reading the book and learning as much as I can.


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Hello AB's!

I tried the diet for three months back in 2006 & felt so wonderful! I stopped because I found out I was pregnant(without partner) & was working FT so was too tired to keep up with it. I've just gotten back to it in the past 2 months & am noticing the benefits once again!

I'm so happy to have found this thread!!! I still want to find out my secretor status & Genome info, etc.

I just read all your posts & they are very informative & inspirational! The only tip I can offer at this time is I've really noticed the benefit I've gotten from drinking teas throughout the day: Chamomile, Dandilion, one called Breathe Easy from Traditional Medicinals(I think the name just changed to Herbal Tussin). Also, I don't know the beneficial status of it but I've been drinking Yerba Mate instead of coffee with great results & it tastes great!!!

If anyone knows the beneficial status of Yerba Mate please respond to this! Dr. D if you can answer this that would be MUCH appreciated!!!
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If anyone knows the beneficial status of Yerba Mate please respond to this! Dr. D if you can answer this that would be MUCH appreciated!!!

A blog by Dr. D. on Yerba Mate:
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2004/11/07/type-o-and-yerba-mate?blog=27

An old thread discussing Yerba Mate:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GC/m-1213328013/s-0/


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Fabulous finding this page!  I am getting used to the eating more veggies per day.  It is a great encouragement finding this and other pages for BT AB!

I have been borderline hypertensive since my 20's and never understood why.  Especially since I have been very active and fit.  One day in the late 1990's I picked up the ERFY BT and found out the reason why.  Still learning and wanting to learn more and be healthier.

Thank you all and I look forward to hearing more and learning much.  
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I'm a newbie too and still learning..I stay bloated or gassy and after I eat, I feel so bad I swear I ain't eating again but of course I do. Trying to cut out everything that's a avoid for my Ab type. Just started so haven't notice a difference yet. Order the CRFYT book can't wait to see what it has for me to learn. [/face][face=Times]
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I was thinking about it today and wondered what it would be like if all AB's and B's knew that chicken was something they should avoid.

What effect would it have on stroke rates nationwide, and on health care costs overall?  

I bet the improvement would be astounding.


No doubt! I was astonished at how much better I felt switching to turkey.

Good to see you here Naomi,  xcaribecab and Tammy!  

And whatever happened to jodi1031,  Th3pr3dit0r and SnowmanR?

Chud? Marianne? Why so quiet  

Keep up the posting!  

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I'm staying tired absolutely exhausted no energy what so ever & all started when I hit my 40's before could eat or drink anything I wanted didn't gain an oz.. I have memorized all the AVOIDS, cutting out favorites is where it's the hardest, I love anything with Vinegar in it. Ketchup, Raspberry Vinaigrette, Mustard,Relish, Miracle Whip...what do I do?
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I'm staying tired absolutely exhausted no energy what so ever & all started when I hit my 40's before could eat or drink anything I wanted didn't gain an oz.. I have memorized all the AVOIDS, cutting out favorites is where it's the hardest, I love anything with Vinegar in it. Ketchup, Raspberry Vinaigrette, Mustard,Relish, Miracle Whip...what do I do?

Sorry that I didn't see this post until now...

I have cut all vinegar components out of the diet.  It is difficult at first, but I feel so much less abdominal pain because of it.

In place of any favorites, I use some other beneficial food from my lists.  I first tried to eat like I had, but it was difficult to remake all of the same meals with all different ingredients, so I ultimately read enough cookbooks/menus/etc. looking for dishes that incorporated beneficial foods from my lists.

Most of my condiments are homemade, as pre-made dressings, etc. usually have vinegar, corn syrup, spices, or gums added that I do much better without.

I do most meals with whole foods and individual spices (or spice mixes where everything is compliant) and mix beneficial or neutral foods that go together to make tasty (to me) meals.

There are many recipes in the Recipe Center that others have shared to help each of us find dishes that are much more compliant than "standard fare".  Try searching there for ideas.



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Nice thread.  I haven't been on in a long time but I need to get my but back in gear.  Stress and hormone issues is making me a bad girl.  I need a slap in the face.
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Hi, I'm a new member with AB negative secretor blood. I just ordered the SWAMI software and will be figuring out my genotype soon. I don't have any current health issues, but a family history of high cholestorol, heart disease, blood clotting issues, stroke and cancer. Already, I've eliminated chicken and shrimp which I was eating a lot of recently as part of a "healthy diet" to loose weight.

I'll be doing a lot of reading here..

Take care  
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Looks like it's been awhile since someone posted in this thread, but I just found it and wanted to say hi!  I had head about the BTD, but didn't know much about it until I was googling the other day.  I knew that being AB+ was rare, and I knew that all other types of diets (paleo/low carb, low calorie, etc) have never been successful for me so I wanted to see what it was all about.  I thought it was interesting that a lot of the foods I would eat on these other diets are on my avoid list, which was enough to convince me that I should give this a try.

I'm currently 13 weeks pregnant so I don't want to change anything too drastically, but I'm going to start making little changes here and there.   The biggies I think will be to avoid chicken, corn, oranges, and whole dairy and start eating more turkey, rice, lentils, and yogurt/kefir.  Hopefully I will feel a little better when pregnant and after I have the baby I can ramp it up a bit.  I got the book from the library and once I get through that I'll be interested in the other tests and SWAMI program and supplements.  

Anyhow, glad to see other ABs - I wish we had our own little forum or something - or do we and I just haven't found it?
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Welcome!  I really like the Turkey,Fish (though careful with pregnancy) and Lamb.  I don’t miss milk at all which is nice.  I really like the Almond milk and have ramped up the good cheeses.

I feel great and I am about 75% compliant.  Congrats on your pregnancy.


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I'm currently 13 weeks pregnant so I don't want to change anything too drastically, but I'm going to start making little changes here and there.   The biggies I think will be to avoid chicken, corn, oranges, and whole dairy...
Anyhow, glad to see other ABs - I wish we had our own little forum or something - or do we and I just haven't found it?


Hi krockak!

You might want to eliminate wheat right away, too.

Have a look at here:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED006

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/.....-of-eat-righ?blog=19

Another AB thread you may be interested in:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-lr4yt/m-1263512349/s-0/

Happy reading!

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Welcome krockak--and a big thank you for reviving this thread.  I hadn't seen it before today.  

I think you will be very happy with following the BT way.  It will be good for you and your little 'bun in the oven.'  

Keep us posted on your progress.
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Thanks everyone!

I wouldn't know who to ask about this - but do you think the moderators would be open to creating boards for each of the blood types?  I know I am more interested overall in what other AB's post and don't have time to sift through some many other posts.   Ideas?
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There are Genotype threads that would be helpful, and getting a secretor test is a great way to refine your diet. Swami would be instumental in tackling any pressing health issues you may have.

I think you'll find that a lot of valuable information is shared across the board, and many folks here have a lot of good info to share. Most of our specific issues can be addressed through high compliancy with our diets. If you have health issues that need addressing, use the search field first, and if you need additional help, feel free to start a new thread.
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... do you think the moderators would be open to creating boards for each of the blood types?  I know I am more interested overall in what other AB's post and don't have time to sift through some many other posts.   Ideas?

This has been discarded as an idea due to there being so few of some types, and the fact that we all help each other out...  If you start a thread about any topic, anyone who has pertinent information will respond to help, rather than only type AB, so it quickly becomes a mixed type thread.  The best you can do is read what you want or have time for, etc...


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Krockak--I agree with Averno and Joe.

Great information is shared across all threads.  And, when you consider our BT--we have our A side and our B side.  And we share a similar nervous system with O's.  We're actually very versatile.

And, as Averno says--when you discover your secretor status and GT you will have even more to relate to than just the AB.
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