Quoted from shoulderblade

I means that the benefits of the A diet happen over a longer period of time (months or years) rather than showing a dramatic change right away.

With O's it seems that changes are noted more quickly.

Thank You, what a pity.

Quoted from cdix

I've been on Type O diet for 5 years.  Met my boyfriend 3 years ago (also O-Non) and he is in medical field - read book and it all makes perfect sense to him. He was Kosher so I went Kosher. We enjoy cooking together, and have lots of good recipes.  Before we met he ate potatoes almost every day.  After he quit he had about three months of a healing crisis as his knee was swollen and painful but it finally disappeared and he has no issues with it.  We were both with Type A in previous relationship - not good for us.  We ARE TALKERS, he more than me.  We did the test for Secretor- Non and are Non's, but didn't realize until we just bought the Live RIght book last week and discovered that there were Avoids for Non's that were ok for secretors, so now we are adjusting our diet.  One great thing....we can now have Avocado's.  YEA!

Is Kosher eating based in science ?

Quoted from DoS

It kinda sucks. Probably not as bad as cancer though.

Quoted from wrotek

Thank You, what a pity.

I took a look through the Food lists in ER4YT last evening and think that the diet does not really work faster for O's but only seems to due to the rather extensive Avoid list involving staple and common foods. As an O I think that if you can tackle the avoids effectively you are bound to feel better quickly simply from shedding that weight from your diet. An A, on the other who had been a vegetarian or low meat eater would find the transition smoother and less dramatic.

I can remember when I was introduced to the diet my reaction to the food lists was alarm at the avoids and I made eliminating them my top priority.

Quoted from wrotek

Is Kosher eating based in science ?

Pork is not allowed so God must have known something.  

I grew up at the coast and consumed seafood all my life. We dug for razor clams and consumed lots of fresh dungeness crab.  I used to fall asleep at the table and become nauseated as a child when I had to eat Pork.  So, when my boyfriend explained Kosher to me, I was convinced it was the way to go.  I feel so much healthier now, eating both Type O and Kosher.  It works for me.  To explain kosher....Most land animals that do not chew cud and split hoof and anything in the sea that does not have scale and fin consumes fecal matter. As Swine split hoof and do not chew cud, horses chew cud but have no split hoof. Look at the Trichinosis Virus from Pork and its devastating health effects. Most countries that consume large quantities of Pork have high levels of Neuropathy, Retinopathy and Diabetes. Ask any Gulf Coast Shrimper about the Staph level of freshly netted Shrimp. For a biblical basis refer to the law of Moses in Leviticus 11.

Type O's can vastly increase their benefits by working out harder, Type A's can not.

Interesting discussion

Kosher - I had to go look it up bc it has so many meaning today.  
       "Sanctioned by Jewish law" is the one that seems to fits here.

I just remember reading about the dietary & sanitation laws God gave  Isreal (around 1513 BCE.)   What a huge blessing and health benefit for them. Other nations didn't have a clue - but it is interesting that anyone who desired to live by the standards and benefit could join.

Another idea of why A's take longer.

Dr D picked:   "Why can't we all just get along"    as the slogan for GT3 Teacher & it fits.

Our nature is to go along with what everyone else wants - put others first.

We have to learn to make our health/food a priority.

I was thinking about this recently.

The reason I believe O's feel the difference much faster, is because most of the popular food that is in abundance, that many Western people eat without question, is terrible for an O.

Wheat
Corn
Soy
Potatoes
Coffee
Beer
98% of the dairy products

Quoted from 14922

I was thinking about this recently.

The reason I believe O's feel the difference much faster, is because most of the popular food that is in abundance, that many Western people eat without question, is terrible for an O.

Wheat
Corn
Soy
Potatoes
Coffee
Beer
98% of the dairy products

Exactly right. You could add:

Peanuts
Oranges
Pork
Navy and Kidney beans
Also Soy - IMHO

Yeah but a Type A eating all the wrong foods and no good foods probably won't see the immediate change a Type O will that already ate healthy and decided to kick pork or corn or something. Just as much as a Type A eating all the right foods may not register very many improvements for a long time, and feel just as poorly as a Type O eating totally wrong. The Type O on the other hand might be able to just exercise off the extra weight even eating poorly (most can, if they work hard, many don't even have any too) and the Type A will be doing everything right and still mentally be upset about weight not changing.

One thing I am very grateful for and that is that SWAMI delivers the other types from having to get preached to about what we should and should not be eating by the O's!! And that is simply because no one actually knows what SWAMI is addressing in each of us. I knew a long time ago that most beans did not work well for me, but the other protein selections were extremely limited. I was seriously struggling, to say the least. Soy did not seem to be my thing but loads of it was on my diet along with practically every bean known to man. NOW, hurrah!!!!! Hardly any soy, many less beans, less dairy, and my body is very, very happy indeed!! I would like to say, though, that there were many things about the GENO diet and BTD that saved me from a lot of health problems, there is no doubt about that. The confirmation that beef was like poison to me along with several other things were wonderful, life-changing events!

The original type A BTD in the Eat Right book was fairly generous in grains and soy foods. I always
knew that I had problems with those foods, not long after the Live Right book came out and our diets started to include secretor status. The A nonnie diet was significantly lower in grains and soy foods became neutral rather than beneficial. This was a significant improvement for me as an Explorer GT determined later when the GTD came out and then a personal SWAMI.

Interestingly the SWAMI diet rates soy as black dots so I pretty much treat them as avoids.

Great discussion here!

Like Grey Rabbit, after starting the BTD, then genotype diet, and finally swami, my "health" numbers are extraordinary for my age ( according to recent ENT's and an allergist) and I don't need any prescription meds, either. I haven't eaten red meat in 17 years so this diet wasn't difficult. The biggest adjustment was avoiding wheat.

Purlgirl,
You are soooo right about our nature

Greenman,
West Ireland! Talk about God's country! We love it there! I am so sad you cannot enjoy your abundance of the worlds best cod!
I am very talkative, but like you mentioned, only when I am comfortable and with my inner circle.

DoS,
I agree about the O's and A's with exercise. I thought longer and harder gym workouts would help me lose weight. Wrong!When I finally followed Dr. D's advice on mixing yoga with less intense weight lifting/walking/circuit training, I easily lost weight! I take long walks for pleasure with my dogs but when I "workout" on the treadmill its never longer than 15 min.

Quoted from purlgirl

Another idea of why A's take longer.

Dr D picked:   "Why can't we all just get along"    as the slogan for GT3 Teacher & it fits.

Our nature is to go along with what everyone else wants - put others first.

We have to learn to make our health/food a priority.

Purlgirl, as a fellow Teacher, I couldn't agree with this more! I'm really seeing a pattern that when I get off of my SWAMI diet, it's due to stress from taking care of my family. I'm starting to see that for me to be at my best for them, I need to take care of myself too.

Quoted from DoS

Yeah but a Type A eating all the wrong foods and no good foods probably won't see the immediate change a Type O will that already ate healthy and decided to kick pork or corn or something. Just as much as a Type A eating all the right foods may not register very many improvements for a long time, and feel just as poorly as a Type O eating totally wrong. The Type O on the other hand might be able to just exercise off the extra weight even eating poorly (most can, if they work hard, many don't even have any too) and the Type A will be doing everything right and still mentally be upset about weight not changing.

I wonder how As would feel eating O type diet ^^

Sounds like a well composed diet.

One individuals "fast" response is another's "slow".  Our bodies will respond at the pace that is right for us...we just might not be aware of it.

Sharing with the best of intentions.

Quoted from wrotek

I wonder how As would feel eating O type diet ^^

Sounds like a well composed diet.

Not bad per say, but dwindling health progressively. They don't have reactive systems often so pain isn't all that high, but nor are body functions when eating wrong.

Quoted from wrotek

I wonder how As would feel eating O type diet ^^

You can try it, but usually they have very sluggish digestion due to not digesting meat well.  Also, their intestinal flora gets thrown off balance due to not getting the food they need to properly feed the ideal bacteria for their type...  Over time, these symptoms will cause weight gain and malnutrition - although it may take a long time, depending on how healthy they were when they started the "experiment."

Well this type A will neverbe able to digest meat again! When I took one bite of a hamburger, then a year later a bite of ham, after going 10 years without red meat, I literally gagged ( on the burger) and got physically ill ( in the bathroom all night ) from both! My gut spoke loud and clear that red meat is poison to me!( Its been 17 years now without a meat diet.) I grew up eating lamb, have always enjoyed it, even tried it again a few years ago in France but, again, was in the restroom much of the night! Not worth it!
DoS,
Maybe many A's are "receptors" but...not me! My swami has me as a reactor! Rightly so!   Individuality. Maybe because my Dad is an O- explorer and we share the same allergies?

There are Type A reactors, but receptive and thrifty are the most common (teacher/warrior). Anyone can be reactive, but even Type A reactives are rarely the fully body hives type people like many O's are.

Quoted from ABJoe

You can try it, but usually they have very sluggish digestion due to not digesting meat well.  Also, their intestinal flora gets thrown off balance due to not getting the food they need to properly feed the ideal bacteria for their type...  Over time, these symptoms will cause weight gain and malnutrition - although it may take a long time, depending on how healthy they were when they started the "experiment."

Frankly i always felt tired after meat just like Dr Dadamo predicts.
But do Os feel energized after large meat food ? Or sluggish as well.
After meat i just want to lay down for 3 hours in front of tv and digest

Quoted from DoS

Yeah but a Type A eating all the wrong foods and no good foods probably won't see the immediate change a Type O will that already ate healthy and decided to kick pork or corn or something. Just as much as a Type A eating all the right foods may not register very many improvements for a long time, and feel just as poorly as a Type O eating totally wrong. The Type O on the other hand might be able to just exercise off the extra weight even eating poorly (most can, if they work hard, many don't even have any too) and the Type A will be doing everything right and still mentally be upset about weight not changing.

For this type A, I was in a losing battle with asthma and once I switched over to eating for my type, I stopped needing any asthma medications. That process took about 6 months. I was also being treated at the same time by an acupuncturist. The last time I needed an inhaler was in 2006, and before that, it was several years. Now I live at 5600 feet elevation and consider my asthma in remission.

Also O's have more inflamatory responses to bad foods, where as most A's do not get this type of response.  A's mostly are adaptable and can get on with a bad diet, but it will break them down if the abuse keeps going in a systemic way.

So the reduction in burning inflammation is noticable, where as, preventing future breakdowns is not as easy to see until time goes on.

For A's, just staying away from most dairy and red meats goes a long way, eat like a rastafarian!  The rastafarians believe that eating meat (esp red) regularly makes the body a cemetery.  

I have greatly reduced my red meat consumption.  I thought because i was an explorer, i could eat red meat with no limits!  But this is not true.  Explorers, esp A ones, should not use red meat regularly, and instead eat poultry and some lamb and maybe occassionally some beef.  

I felt somehow that not being able to eat meat anytime anywhere was a sign of weakness, lol! It can be tough to accept that you cannot eat whatever you want whenever you want.  

I feel lighter not eating as much red meat (and mostly cutting fast foods).  I also ate too much at a time.  Takes awhile for the brain to realize you have eaten!!

I was always interested in studing the black plague that swept through Europe. After starting the ER4YBT diet and found pork as an avoid because it lowers your immune response...... I began to wonder if the avoidance of pork was why the biggest ratio of survivors were of Jewish descent? Of course it could have also helped that they took regular baths and thus also kept their homes cleaner.

A couple of vacations ago I ate pork a couple of times and caught the most horrible case of the flu the day after I got home. I was sick in bed and missed Thanksgiving. So I now avoid like the plague.