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Monday, February 13, 2012, 6:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I know milk and red meat is avoid for me. And I avoided red meat for years since I had acid reflux before. Couple months ago I started eating grass fed beef then started drinking raw milk. I felt ok after eating grass fed beef. I was wondering if milk and beef in general are avoid for us? Or eating healthy alternatives like grass fed beef and grass fed raw milk are would be considered as neutral or considered still avoid? What do you think? Thanks?


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Grass fed, raw milk is incredibly better to drink than regular milk. But that doesn't mean it is good to drink in milk form. Try raw compliant cheeses if you want the benefit. Raw ghee would be one of the best things. Milk... is a liquid and doesn't have the beneficial properties that certain milk products do; it just seems to go straight to an inflammatory status without offering any benefit that is more anti-inflammatory in nature than the inflammation factor.

The red meat is because it is red meat. It is about the ability to digest it, not the toxin levels or omega balances. For blood type O not-grass fed means eating avoids in the cow like soy and corn (not necessarily avoids for type A). It also upsets their balance of omega oils (needing more 3, less 6 and 9).

For a Type A they simply lack first stomach acid, and then intestinal alkaline phosphatase (bioavaliable anyway, it is an enzyme). The stress it puts on a Type A system is extensive, and leads to poor bacterial balance since you have somewhat undigested food moving through you that creates a breeding ground for bad bacteria. Then a heavier load of saturated fat is absorbed due to the lack of digestion capability. This means inflammation etc.

For some Type A's lamb works ok because it is MUCH easier to digest. That is a more specific thing that can be gotten into with GenoTyping, and secreter status. These people handle beef better, but still would do best with something easier.

In general when you see things listed as avoids it has NOTHING to do with the quality, GMO, raw, or any other status. The plant or thing itself actually has something in it bad for you (proteins usually) or is hard to digest under any circumstance. You are better off eating GMO beneficial vegetables than no vegetables at all in general. Unless you are sensitive to chemicals in a way it makes you sick, but you would probably overcome that anyways, p.s. it is the pesticides not the GMO part doing that; GMO foods are usually just nutrient void.
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Thanks. So should i continue drinking raw milk and stop eating grass fed beef? Whey is avoid for me. I'm using goat whey powder. Would it be fine?


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I am a member of a raw milk herd share.  I love it.  I use it to make our butter. (I'll learn to make ghee). I get the cream for my husband's cream. I make sour cream, cream cheese, and farmer's cheese.  Before my hysterectomy and the docs thought I had IBS- raw milk helped me tremendously!

I think that's the only thing I'll rebel against.  I'll work on giving up my Dt Mtn Dew but not my raw milk!  

PS I'm a WARRIOR and Type A.


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Raw milk has not been evaluated separately from its pasteurized counterparts. Most people interpret raw milk as having the same rating as the pasteurized milk. Other people consider raw milk "untested" and potentially neutral- seeing how they personally respond to it.

The cheeses you make are probably fine. The cream cheese you make at home may be more like paneer or ricotta in the ratings.


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The crackdown on raw milk producers is political, not based on food safety. If food safety was the only concern, they'd just  put a warning label on the milk like they have with raw meat, fish, poultry and eggs; telling people to cook before consuming.


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ok- so raw milk is probably from a Jersey cow thus A2 protein.  Pasteurized store bought milk- probably Holstein and thus A1.

What kind of milk was tested for Type A/Warriors and why can't we have milk. I get red meat.  I haven't been able to eat red meat for years.  And now - any meat 'stops me up'.  But raw milk has been great for me- no issues.  Makes me regular....


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Quoted from Mrsnormal
ok- so raw milk is probably from a Jersey cow thus A2 protein.  Pasteurized store bought milk- probably Holstein and thus A1.

What kind of milk was tested for Type A/Warriors and why can't we have milk. I get red meat.  I haven't been able to eat red meat for years.  And now - any meat 'stops me up'.  But raw milk has been great for me- no issues.  Makes me regular....


Milk sugars. And other things.

Also, a cows blood type does not directly correlate with that of a human.

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Quoted from Mrsnormal
ok- so raw milk is probably from a Jersey cow thus A2 protein.  Pasteurized store bought milk- probably Holstein and thus A1.

What kind of milk was tested for Type A/Warriors and why can't we have milk. I get red meat.  I haven't been able to eat red meat for years.  And now - any meat 'stops me up'.  But raw milk has been great for me- no issues.  Makes me regular....


Placebo or lack of nutrient from other foods.

Type A often feel good consuming a lot of meat at first, but there are pretty serious detrimental affects.
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Quoted from Lloyd


Milk sugars. And other things.

Also, a cows blood type does not directly correlate with that of a human.


The A1 or A2 does not refer to the cow's blood type.  They are two different types of bovine beta-casein genes which makes a difference in the beta-casein protein in the milk produced.  A2 is supposed to be the original genetic type of cow and the A2 milk is supposed to be better tolerated by humans because of the difference in the beta-casein protein.  

The A1 cows are believed to be a genetic mutation, and the A1 milk more likely to cause problems for people.

I would love to know if there is any agglutinating difference among the blood types, depending upon whether the milk tested was A1 or A2.  And raw versus pasteurized.   So many people swear by the healing effects of raw, pastured A2 milk.  I've never tried it.

A couple links - http://www.handpickednation.com/what-is-a1-versus-a2-milk/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3475924/
http://www.snowvillecreamery.com/a1-and-a2-beta-casein-in-cow-milk.html

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