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AceNeerav
Thursday, December 15, 2011, 4:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Let me first put my background to you people... Type O, Indian, Male, 28 years, 125 kilos, 99% vegetarian.

Only occasionally have I taken non veg food and recently started taking eggs in the night. We belong to the Jain religion which is hard lined to thinking vegetarian.

I have purchased the book "Eat right for your type" on a friend's recommendation and have also downloaded the iPhone app of the same. Have just started the second chapter of the book.

Because of cultural obligations and psychological make up i would be avoiding beef of cow/buffalo meat of any kind. I'm willing to try mutton.

I want to know how should I begin?  what should be the frequency of the meals and what should be the portions? sound sleep is something i dont get often... either because of my sinuses giving me a head ache or cause of food get digested so fast that my stomach gets empty, giving me disturbed sleep.

no matter how much i eat or what i eat, it doesn't bring me the satisfaction or energy or freshness. sometimes i end up eating so much that i feel bloated. i often feel that my BP is going low and i then start eating a lot of sugury food, like i did a few hours back... eating dhudhi (gaurd) halwa made of guard, ghee and sugar... and i had to literally force my self to throw up to feel normal. i dont understand if its salt requirment or sugar.

3 years back i underwent blood tests and my sugar was a little higher than normal and my doctor put me on citapin 1000mg which he said would avoid diabetes from setting in. also, my thyroid showed normal in almost all test. since 3 years didn't undergo any test. now that i want to, i just can't remain empty stomach for 12 hours at the stretch in the night, as required by the test for blood sugar.

i dont know how to begin. almost everybody over here tells me that if i start meat i would start gaining even more weight.

FYI, since august 2009 i have had a single piece of flesh and just had eggs like once a week in the night. i smoked for a year and a half from may 06 to dec 07 and since 5th dec 2007 haven't had a single cigarette.

exercise is 0 as i never felt proper with my body after exercise, possibly because of my veg diet.

please advice and help me change my life.
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welcome!

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I'm willing to try mutton.


excellent!

begin by focusing on healing your gut.....check out the protocols and follow your guidelines in the book......fish would also be an option, right?
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm
slow wins the race


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AceNeerav
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thank you

also... i have stopped taking citapin since a month now as I feel my sugar levels were getting low in the night, also bringing me disturbed sleep.

i plan to take the test as soon as i get am able to stay hungry for like 12 hours, as required by the doctor for the test. as for now, can't do without my morning milk ginger tea.
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Welcome!

The first thing you need to do is to eat high protein, lower carb meals. Poultry, fish, and eggs are good choices. If you want to continue to eat some vegetarian meals (which may be hard for you to avoid doing if most of your friends are vegetarians) then try to eat beans, nuts, and vegetables at those meals, and very minimal quantities of grains and added sugars. Fruit can be part of your diet, but limit yourself to 1 or 2 servings a day. Vegetables are much, much better for us. Eating lots of veggies, especially green leafy veggies, fills us up and gives us many nutrients we need, without excess carbs or calories.

Adding in meat will NOT make you gain weight. You will gain weight from too many grains and too many sugars, even from eating too much fruit. Fat and protein will NOT make you fat. That may be the case for A's, but not for O's.

O's do best having animal protein 2 or 3 times a day. Your body may crave it even more frequently since you've done without it for so long. If you can only manage having animal protein once a day, that's far better than a completely vegan diet.

Cutting out wheat is very important. Cutting out corn and potatoes are the 2nd most important things. I wouldn't worry right now about removing various vegetables, nuts, or beans from your diet. It's more important right now to make sure you get enough protein and enough vegetables, even if some of the food choices aren't ideal.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I'm in agreement with Ruthie.

I think it's important to start emphasizing abundant vegetables with plenty of them in the dark green color.  Actually try and get an assortment of vivid color in your veggie selection - that will help you get a range of nutrients.

As quickly as you can, phase out most dairy, except ghee, with just a small amount other dairy that is allowed on the type O food list.

Wheat, corn and potatoes are really not good for you as a type O, and they can sabotage your other efforts.

Your blood type O body is made to thrive on animal protein.  That does not mean, however, that you have to overeat on huge slabs of meat.  Try adding a small amount in a stir-fry, as in cut up pieces of lean lamb for example.  Make a small burger for yourself with some fresh purchased ground dark turkey, seasoned with onion and garlic  and some sea salt -- yummy.

Many kinds of fish are great for your blood type.  If you can incorporate them into your diet, it would be wonderful.  Find out which fish are on your food list and which ones you like and learn ways to prepare them that taste good to you so that it is a good experience.

This way of eating is all about joy and not deprivation, so look for ways to improve and diversify your own cooking skills.  Be afraid of too much starch, added sugar and milk - that is what will imbalance the type O, not the meat protein.

I was vegetarian for more than 2 decades.  It was slowly killing me and I am more grateful than I can express that Dr. D provided an alternative that has returned my health to a level that is better than I've had at any point in my life.    



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Welcome!

I have had sinus problems all my life.  I started using a neti pot only five years ago, which helps a lot.  But the best thing of all is the BTD, specifically avoiding wheat and dairy.

So I wouldn't worry too much about incorporating animal products immediately.  See how you do just by avoiding the foods that are bad for you.  But for your blood sugar, you must try to eat Low Glycemic meals, in which the simple carb content is lower than usual, and the protein is higher.  That usually means avoiding "white foods" like white potatoes, white bread, white rice.  Try sweet potato, whole spelt bread, and brown rice (or better yet, quinoa) as substitutes.

Also, for sinuses, Dr. D usually recommends Collinsonia, which is also called Stone Root.  You can find it as a tincture at some health food stores.  NAP sells it in capsule form: http://www.northamericanpharma.....nfo.asp?number=NP009

To motivate you, I'd like to share a post from my blog in which I describe how I felt before starting the BTD:  http://square--peg.blogspot.com/2009/05/flashback-energy-level-profile.html
It refers to adrenal fatigue.  The adrenals are responsible for boosting blood sugar, which can drop after insulin floods your system in response to a high Glycemic meal.

Best of luck to you!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Can you figure out what foods are AVOID and  stay away from them.. that will change your foods by 90% turned upside down.. then eating the other foods will even out some issues.  

If there is a translated book , goo, but the translation needs to be in the foods you are eating.. figuring out what you can eat will make a big difference, and then if you add eggs more and more each day to keep you full longer will be giving your body a chance to get used to more proteins..   Expect to have bathroom changes, as that is normal for all who change their eating of different foods.

For you the changes will be rather dramatic, so I would start off for some weeks by adding food slowly but eliminating as many avoids as possible.  It is also expected that you will not only feel better, but also have mental changes to deal with, not least of which : how to deal with people around you..  take your time... All the best


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hi guys,

sorry for the late followup. lack of notifications makes it difficult to keep track..

now these days i have moved to another city in India called Ahmedabad which is even more so a vegetarian center. Non-veg food is only found in the rather more expensive restaurants and I haven't see egg anywhere around since like weeks!

these days my diet is as follows...
1. when tiffin service is available
Morning, sugared tea with milk and brown bread with butter or jam and cheese
around 11, 1 apple or 1 glass of apple juice (sugre free tropicana 100%)
afternoon, tiffin with rice, indian dal (lentil) and some vegetable curry and cooked pulses curry.
evening, apple or apple juice or some snack outside like roasted sweet potatoes or a vegetable sandwich
night, same as afternoon, occasionally different like south indian dosa, uttapam or pav bhaji...

2. when tiffin service is not available
the lunch and dinner meals are replaced with restaurant food which keeps on varying but generally i stick to rice and indian dal.

my diet is highly irregular and it has always remained this way from the start. india is a place with a heavy inclination towards a balanced vegetarian meal... (indian dal, indian vegetable curry, pulses curry, steamed rice, roti [indian bread made of either regular or refined wheat flour] and some curd and pickle)

there is abundance of this where i live but non veg is very difficult. so i stick to rice, lentil and vegetable curry. i know LENTIL is a strict avoid but thats the only protein i can manage to get in a vegetarian diet along with the pulses.

i need some POWER food for o types which can help me stay full and achieve a balance. something in vegetarian...
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Hi AceNerrav,

How about:

a)  Lamb / mutton

b) Turkey

c) Fish

Rice is good of course, in my personal program basmati rice is excellent. But dal - this is unfortunately not good for you at all. It is a good food for type blood A, and bad for type O. This is one of the foods that will obsruct your (and my) blood from doing its work properly, this and cauliflower! I know that this is quite uncomfortable for a vegetarian in India. Look for other pulses, for example green peas.

Sincerely,
Yaeli


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I'd like to add a useful and invigorating key phrase, often used by our leader friend Lola:

Fear not the meat, fear the wheat!





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Browsing through the wiki entry for Ahmedabad I saw that your city has a very hot climate, which reminds me of the recommended way to begin the day:

Lukewarm water with freshly squeezed lemon juice!!


My lovely lady-doctor used to add to this: "With a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil!!"  


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Quoted from AceNeerav
now these days i have moved to another city in India called Ahmedabad which is even more so a vegetarian center. Non-veg food is only found in the rather more expensive restaurants and I haven't see egg anywhere around since like weeks!

Very difficult situation for a Type O who wants to be healthy.

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...and cooked pulses curry.
evening, apple or apple juice or some snack outside like roasted sweet potatoes or a vegetable sandwich
night, same as afternoon, occasionally different like south indian dosa, uttapam or pav bhaji...

I'm not familiar with the ingredients in some of these dishes, but you need to look at the Eat Right book or Typebase to locate the ingredients to verify the rating so you can choose the best choices.  None of them may be great, but we do the best we can...
Quoted from AceNeerav
2. when tiffin service is not available ... generally i stick to rice and indian dal.

Doesn't sound like a good choice.  Is there something that is better for you?
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i know LENTIL is a strict avoid but thats the only protein i can manage to get in a vegetarian diet along with the pulses.

What are the other "pulses"?  Are they more compliant than lentils?


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Here is the Typebase that ABJoe mentioned:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

You can look up any food and see if it is good or bad for a type O.  See if you find some things you can manage to substitute from what is available over there.

Good luck to you.  



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Welcome and congratulate yourself on the way to a healthy life!

In general, everyone has mentioned what I feel is appropiate. Keep it simple, eat fish and lots of veggies if you are not comfortable with meat.

I go through phases, but I was vegan for about 15 years and BTD has changed my life. I still feel it is important to eat according to your values, however, each of us are different. I am back to eating the fish and veggies ( primarily) sometimes, I will have a piece of chicken.

You can feel better on this lifestyle!
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try sprouting your lentils


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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted from yaeli
I'd like to add 2 most useful and invigorating key phrases, which have been often used by our leader friends Victoria and Lola respectively:

a) Ditch the Sugar!

b) Fear not the meat, fear the wheat!




ditch the sugar. Does that include fruit?
I find if I don't have fruit in the morning then the bowels don't work too well,
but  should try and go fruit free?
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ditch the sugar. Does that include fruit?
I find if I don't have fruit in the morning then the bowels don't work too well,
but  should try and go fruit free?
Not at all. It intends to refined sugars: white & brown sugar and corn & rice syrups.

I see now the error I've made, and I am going to omit this phrase from my post. Victoria's cited phrase was aiming at certain health conditions as yeast overgrowth or candidemia.

In my swami for example honey is superfood, although I perfer to treat it as a black dot, maybe because the consultations I get are too mixed.



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should try and go fruit free?


no way!!

use your beneficial fruit......neutral as well if need be

greenman,
contact bloodtypediet@gmail.com

give them your coordinates to help you find a practitioner  near you to run swami


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Yaeli,

thought of you today, when Dr D posted the following link on FB

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http://www.jpost.com/Health/Article.aspx?id=267861
Integrating conventional and complementary medicine
By JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH
04/28/2012 23:42
A formidable academic volume by a team of Israeli sociologists looks at how healthcare is slowly changing due to public demand.


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Yaeli,

thought of you today, when Dr D posted the following link on FB

Thank you Lola!

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A small number have even abandoned conventional medicine and shifted to a predominantly alternative form of practice.
One of them is my doctor G. Earon, who had long been practicing internal medicine in Tel Aviv Hospital (Ichilov), until in 1985 he opened his private complementary medicine clinic in Tel Aviv. He practices Ortho-molecular medicine methods, as well as homeopathy and herbal medicine. Immediately as I learnt that I was having a rectal tumor, our Isa invited me to come over and I visited her for 8 days, between the simulation at the radiotherapy institute in Hadassah and the beginning of the actual radiation sessions (26, 52Gy, tough). She helped me in many ways and with many excellent advises, and urged me to take Ortho-molecular treatments. At first I thought I had to go to Germany or Switzerland for that. Then I thought, that with the famous Israeli resourcefulness, there might just well be someone in Israel who was giving such treatments. I called my private lady doctor, and she gave me immediately 2 names of MDs. I googled their names, watched their portraits in their sites, and within 5 minutes I decided on Dr. Gideon Earon. My first appointment with him was on 17 Sept 2008, few days after my last radiation session. From then on I have been treated and supported by him with IV infusions + shots when necessary. Sometimes it was most vigorous - an infusion twice a week. There were periods when I was so weak, that I could only travel lying down in the car, supported by blankets and cushions. At present I travel to his clinic every 4-5 weeks and receive IV infusions. Israel is a very tiny community, but a very alert one when medicine is concerned. Few years ago a yearly CAM conference was founded in Jerusalem - it was Isa who told me about this! It takes place in Autumn. Both Dr. Earon and Prof. Halevy (CEO of the hospital where I worked as a secretary for 17 years) give lectures in these conferences. Dr. Earon is in friendly collaboration with my lady oncologist in Jerusalem - this is a very good feeling. His clinic is too chilly with the air-condition, yet there's always a true warmth and loving atmosphere in there. Praise the Lord!

  



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exercise is 0 as i never felt proper with my body after exercise, possibly because of my veg diet.
You may be a gatherer, in which case your body's demand is for much less vigorous exercising than is the hunter's body's demand.




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Yaeli, you are quite fortunate with your discovery of the excellent doctor!



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Yaeli, you are quite fortunate with your discovery of the excellent doctor!
I'm going to open a new thread regarding this.



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