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marjorie
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Hi
I am very concerned about my teeth. It appears the more compliant I am, the worse they are getting.


I really need to fiigure out what the issue...is??

Of course, I am older, and I do think genetics play a role, but I want to do more to be preventative.

My parents both had dentures at 35.

I need to order more calcium, but not sure what else I can do... very sad because I do not eat like the "general population" , nor smoke, drink and feel guilty if I have tooo much fruit, so why is it that I still am worse off than others who do not even care about their health.

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I love gnawing on the bones used for my bone broths......my teeth are healthy and so are my gums.

The recessive damage my gums suffered pre BTD has been reversed.....

do NOT fear the meat!

you have done a secretor test, have you?


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I had a little gum damage too until I started the supplement regimen I'm on. My dentist has been amazed at how healthy they are now! Another vote for the BTD/GENO/SWAMI diets!!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Patty H
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marjorie, what are the problems you are experiencing with your teeth.  

Have you tried oil pulling?  It is supposed to be great for the teeth and gums.  However, be aware that if you have decay under a filling, it could pull that filling out, from what I have been told.


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I've been oil pulling every day since last March with coconut oil..  So far so good...nothing fell out.
I've read that it's actually a good thing if oil pulling dislodges a cap or filling...  It means it wasn't a healthy well fitting filling or cap in the first place.


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O in Virginia
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I've started oil pulling recently, and I think it is helping my gums and teeth.  I have dental issues, too.  I'll try anything not to have to go through another implant process.  
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I've started oil pulling recently, and I think it is helping my gums and teeth.  I have dental issues, too.  I'll try anything not to have to go through another implant process.  


I have an implant coming up.  Is it that bad?


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ok ladies, thank you for the oil pulling, need to try this. I do have fillings, though.

Lola- how do I get the bone broth? I do not cook or at least I did not before tell me how to do this, please. Also, I had some beef in the last two weeks in moderation, however, my teeth are worse.... what else can I do? What causes tooth decay other than sugar ( which I hardly eat).

Perhaps, all the chomping on my salads, or maybe it was the horrible toxins from grilling that I did before. Or the pesticides from all the veggies, however, I always washed them. Once again, I am starting to not want to put anything in my mouth.

P- I have to have 3 teeth pulled. He also said my gums are weak.. so annoying when I totally take care of what goes in my mouth.

How about a good toothpaste?
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Could you please share more about this oil pulling. I have had many teeth pulled on my right side. I want to keep what I have left healthy. I have to have some fillings redone on the left side. The only side left to chew with. I do need some fillings redone on the left. That makes me nervous. The dentist told me that each time a filling has to be removed, they take some of the tooth with it. The fillings become bigger and bigger each time which eventually leads to bigger problems. That is the problem with white fillings. I don't ever want root canals again. Would be nice if the oil could remove it naturally for me.


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I have an implant coming up.  Is it that bad?


Nah, just depends on where it is located.  It was the first time I'd ever had an extraction, and that really freaked me out.     My implant was in a location close to the sinus cavity.  I had to have a bone graft first, then wait a few months for that to grow; then the implant procedure, and wait a few months for that to "take", I guess for the bone to grow around it; then finally the other stuff (prosthodontist, etc., and waiting for all of that).  It took the better part of a year to get it all done from start to finish.  It was just took way more time than I anticipated.  Would I do it again?  Of course!  I'd much rather have an implant than bridge work.  Yours might not be as involved as that.  I sure hope not.  
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My holistic dentist has this book in his treatment room.  I was having a tooth pulled and had a lot of waiting around between different things, so I read quite a bit of it.  I need to purchase it myself.

One thing I will say is that he talks about coconut oil.  O in V uses sesame oil, I think.  Most high-quality oils should work.  Coconut oil has other properties that I like, but DO NOT SWALLOW THE OIL.

http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Pull.....320274741&sr=1-1

marjorie, this will also help your gums!

PM - I think they take more of the tooth each time a filling needs to be replaced whether it is a composite filling or not.  I currently need an implant (had a tooth pulled in the front in October and am currently wearing a retainer with a fake tooth) and about five crowns, not to mention the amalgam removal, so I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!  


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O in Virginia
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Lola- how do I get the bone broth? I do not cook or at least I did not before tell me how to do this, please. Also, I had some beef in the last two weeks in moderation, however, my teeth are worse.... what else can I do? What causes tooth decay other than sugar ( which I hardly eat).


I'm not Lola, but I make a lot of bone broth.  Just roast some grass fed beef bones (you can get these at Whole Foods if you ask at the meat counter, they may have to cut some for you in the back) or whatever kind of bones you want, in an oven for about 20 minutes or however long it takes to brown them.  I do that because roasted bone broth tastes better to me than putting raw bones in the pot.  I use a crockpot.  I add about 2.5 quarts of water and let it all simmer for about 24 hours.  The last half hour you can add lemon juice.  The acid is supposed to help draw out the minerals from the bones.  You can add that before.  I'm never very sure on that point.     Anyway, when your broth is done, strain it, let it cool, put in the fridge overnight.  Next day, skim off or strain the congealed fat.  If it is beef bone broth it will be like jelly.  The jelly will liquify as you reheat it.  VERY good for you!  I use that as the basis for wonderful soups with lots of veggies.  I use turkey bones more often now because turkey is ok for both me and my Type A husband.  So...it's a little time consuming, but easy.
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Nah, just depends on where it is located.  It was the first time I'd ever had an extraction, and that really freaked me out.     My implant was in a location close to the sinus cavity.  I had to have a bone graft first, then wait a few months for that to grow; then the implant procedure, and wait a few months for that to "take", I guess for the bone to grow around it; then finally the other stuff (prosthodontist, etc., and waiting for all of that).  It took the better part of a year to get it all done from start to finish.  It was just took way more time than I anticipated.  Would I do it again?  Of course!  I'd much rather have an implant than bridge work.  Yours might not be as involved as that.  I sure hope not.  


Mine sounds exactly like yours:  tooth extraction (not near sinuses thankfully) but the root was huge and the extraction was extremely painful.  They think I got an infection after so had to go on a massive dose of antibiotics.  I had the bone graft too.  The entire extraction process was very painful because of the infection.  I am waiting for the graft to heal enough so that they can place the post, etc, etc.  I think the extraction is the worst part, yes?  I sure hope so  


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I'm not Lola, but I make a lot of bone broth.  Just roast some grass fed beef bones (you can get these at Whole Foods if you ask at the meat counter, they may have to cut some for you in the back) or whatever kind of bones you want, in an oven for about 20 minutes or however long it takes to brown them.  I do that because roasted bone broth tastes better to me than putting raw bones in the pot.  I use a crockpot.  I add about 2.5 quarts of water and let it all simmer for about 24 hours.  The last half hour you can add lemon juice.  The acid is supposed to help draw out the minerals from the bones.  You can add that before.  I'm never very sure on that point.     Anyway, when your broth is done, strain it, let it cool, put in the fridge overnight.  Next day, skim off or strain the congealed fat.  If it is beef bone broth it will be like jelly.  The jelly will liquify as you reheat it.  VERY good for you!  I use that as the basis for wonderful soups with lots of veggies.  I use turkey bones more often now because turkey is ok for both me and my Type A husband.  So...it's a little time consuming, but easy.


Great Thank You. Now, I have to get a slow cooker. I am not joking, Patty. One pot in my house for bardboiling eggs and I just got rid of my george foreman.

I do have one cookie sheet which use for baking my fish. Talk about living in the dark ages. This weekend, I will get a slow cooker and a steamer... right after I work my 2 jobs, and study

Have you figured out, my family never cooked growing up.

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Mine sounds exactly like yours:  tooth extraction (not near sinuses thankfully) but the root was huge and the extraction was extremely painful.  They think I got an infection after so had to go on a massive dose of antibiotics.  I had the bone graft too.  The entire extraction process was very painful because of the infection.  I am waiting for the graft to heal enough so that they can place the post, etc, etc.  I think the extraction is the worst part, yes?  I sure hope so  


Patty, once the tooth is extracted, which must have been the source of the infection, the area can heal and the rest of the process should go more smoothly for you.  I'm sorry you were in so much pain.     I was given pain meds after the extraction (had stitches, too), but I couldn't take it after a day or two.  Opiate-derived meds make me feel waaay too weird...hallucinations/waking dreams.  Yikes.  I'd rather deal with the pain.  

Patty, you need bone broth, too!  I healed very well (my periodontist was extremely pleased) and I swear it was all the bone broth I was drinking while healing.
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I'm going through the same thing.  Had a tooth pulled in the spring, implant was placed yesterday.  I also had two more teeth removed yesterday and the bone grafts done by the periodontist.  I look like a chipmunk today but not in  any real pain.  The cost is the real big pain!  Mine are in the back so I don't think I'll need the temps.  Lots of little stitches and ice packs.  I'm having to eat soft foods for at least 2 weeks so I bought some yogurt which I normally wouldn't eat but I can't have anything hot or hathrd.  I ate some Tinkyada pasta with feta and some soft veggies just warmed up.  
I'm also on steroids and antibiotics which I hate to do but I don't want an infection.  I'm also taking bromelain and Polyflora.  Hopefully back to work tomorrow.
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I'm going through the same thing.  Had a tooth pulled in the spring, implant was placed yesterday.  I also had two more teeth removed yesterday and the bone grafts done by the periodontist.  I look like a chipmunk today but not in  any real pain.  The cost is the real big pain!  Mine are in the back so I don't think I'll need the temps.  Lots of little stitches and ice packs.  I'm having to eat soft foods for at least 2 weeks so I bought some yogurt which I normally wouldn't eat but I can't have anything hot or hathrd.  I ate some Tinkyada pasta with feta and some soft veggies just warmed up.  
I'm also on steroids and antibiotics which I hate to do but I don't want an infection.  I'm also taking bromelain and Polyflora.  Hopefully back to work tomorrow.


Bone broth for you, too!  
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The book "Cure Tooth Decay" is a MUST read.

Recipes for tooth strengthening, etc.  
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The book "Cure Tooth Decay" is a MUST read.

Recipes for tooth strengthening, etc.  


Who is the author?

Thank you
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My holistic dentist has this book in his treatment room.  I was having a tooth pulled and had a lot of waiting around between different things, so I read quite a bit of it.  I need to purchase it myself.

One thing I will say is that he talks about coconut oil.  O in V uses sesame oil, I think.  Most high-quality oils should work.  Coconut oil has other properties that I like, but DO NOT SWALLOW THE OIL.

http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Pull.....320274741&sr=1-1

marjorie, this will also help your gums!

PM - I think they take more of the tooth each time a filling needs to be replaced whether it is a composite filling or not.  I currently need an implant (had a tooth pulled in the front in October and am currently wearing a retainer with a fake tooth) and about five crowns, not to mention the amalgam removal, so I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!  


The thing is, composite needs to be replaced more often.


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Who is the author?

Thank you

From a quick search, I think this is the book being referenced...  The author is Ramiel Nagel.
http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Tooth-Decay-Cavities-Nutrition/dp/1434810607


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ok ladies, thank you for the oil pulling, need to try this. I do have fillings, though.

Lola- how do I get the bone broth? I do not cook or at least I did not before tell me how to do this, please. Also, I had some beef in the last two weeks in moderation, however, my teeth are worse.... what else can I do? What causes tooth decay other than sugar ( which I hardly eat).

Perhaps, all the chomping on my salads, or maybe it was the horrible toxins from grilling that I did before. Or the pesticides from all the veggies, however, I always washed them. Once again, I am starting to not want to put anything in my mouth.

P- I have to have 3 teeth pulled. He also said my gums are weak.. so annoying when I totally take care of what goes in my mouth.

How about a good toothpaste?


Hi Marjorie!

My teeth are atrocious! I inherited bad ones, coupled with all those years of eating processed carbs and not brushing at night as a child and teenager.

I have more crowns than the Royal Family, BUT my gums are textbook-ready - 1 or 2 as the pocket depth. ;o) I floss everyday (at night and sometimes in between) and use interdental brushes as needed. I used to use Crest ProHealth, yet recently began to use Tom's of Maine non-flouride toothpaste. I also use the Sonicaire toothbrush. ANd brush at least twice a day.

Sometimes, poor dental health can be related to crowding or needing orthodontia. And other times, no matter what we do (like me,) our teeth are what they are and we can only do the best we can.

I even have dental equipment at home - I am obsessed with my oral health.

Melissa


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The thing is, composite needs to be replaced more often. From PrincessMia

I have several that are twenty-five years old, and they are still doing fine. Knock on wood, of course!


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The thing is, composite needs to be replaced more often.


That may be true, but trust me on this one - you do not want to deal with the mercury toxicity.  It impacts every aspect of your health and wellness.  Go for the composites over amalgam.  Why eat a beautiful, pure, clean diet only to have your body poisoned by mercury???!!!            


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