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Patty H
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I believe that they did not have nearly as much to eat overall instantly available, no matter what they ate.  To me, the calorie consumption matters as well...Dr. D has a post about caloric restriction and increased longevity.  

Today we have a lot of farming and mass produced food, fast food, etc.  We don't go hungry, but its a double edged sword.  Now we have to resist the instinct to eat fatty burgers, fried chicken, fries etc. (at least i do, i love the stuff!  We also have calorie rich drinks all around.  


Yes!  The less you eat, the longer you live.


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Thanks for all the replies, everyone!

I think I'm going to take Vegan Joe's advice and stay vegan... go gluten free... and try to stick with the beneficial / neutral items in the food groups I do eat.

I posted a YouTube video on this subject.

Thanks, again!

- Matt
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gluten causes a lot of problems for a lot of people so I hope it helps - good luck!


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Quoted from thatoneguyonline
Thanks for all the replies, everyone!

I think I'm going to take Vegan Joe's advice and stay vegan... go gluten free... and try to stick with the beneficial / neutral items in the food groups I do eat.

I posted a YouTube video on this subject.

Thanks, again!

- Matt

Thanks for any credit. But I know how ethical vegans think and I too could never enjoy eating animals as food. I have my memories of those great tasting foods and know any attempt at reliving those sensations would only fall far short of my memory. So I'll keep the memories and skip the what I know would be a failure to relive it.
Please keep us informed on your progress. Because this approach to health is so much more than a protein source although others would disagree. I Personally have noticed some changes such as flatulence, but will detail these greater when I redial in the diet as I jumped the fence for a family reunion, no animal though, but lots of wheat, corn etc..
Please don't forget us.
Thank,
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Please keep us informed on your progress.


Yes, definitely keep us informed (although I guess you'll keep posting up-dates on youtube?)

Personally I think paleo makes sense, and I watched you're video in which you said that (at least in writing) paleo makes sense, but if the ethical implacations are what is most important to you then I understand your desire to remain vegan.  It's sort of like "meat virginity"; if you ate meat you could go back to being vegan, but you couldn't take back the fact that you had eaten meat.

butcher those carrots!


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Yes!  The less you eat, the longer you live.


Not really people who practice calorie restriction have higher rates of cancer.



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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Not really people who practice calorie restriction have higher rates of cancer.



It probably depends on the extent of the calorie restriction (and the individual)?  In America, the tendancy is to take it to one end or the other - overeating or crash dieting to the point of eating next to nothing.  You shouldn't give your body too much, but also don't give it too little.  That sounds like common sense, but a lot of people don't follow it.  It reminds me of the Japanese (maybe it's a specific group or region) who say a sort of promise before eating, vowing that they will not overeat.


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Not really people who practice calorie restriction have higher rates of cancer.



I wasn't really talking about calorie restriction.  I was talking about overeating vs. eating the right amounts of food to satisfy your bodily needs.  I think it is safe to say that the average American overeats.  The "all you can eat" buffett, so to speak.

Didn't know about the calorie restriction and cancer link, though.  Thanks for sharing that.


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Thanks for all the replies, everyone!

I think I'm going to take Vegan Joe's advice and stay vegan... go gluten free... and try to stick with the beneficial / neutral items in the food groups I do eat.

I posted a YouTube video on this subject.

Thanks, again!

- Matt


Good luck, Matt!


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Not really people who practice calorie restriction have higher rates of cancer.

Sources please. Studies always fascinate me. Thanks!


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Not really people who practice calorie restriction have higher rates of cancer.



That depends on what you put in your body.  Absolutes are rarely the case with anything.  It leads to restriction of thought, which for me as an explorer is a no no!!!!!
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Sources please. Studies always fascinate me. Thanks!


Dr D'Adamo said it at the conference this year. Purchase the IfHI tapes and enjoy.




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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I didn't catch that. What was the context? I have to go peek and see if the CD's are ready.  


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Dr D'Adamo said it at the conference this year. Purchase the IfHI tapes and enjoy.




OK, so somehow I missed that there were tapes available, where does one purchase them?


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Dr D'Adamo said it at the conference this year. Purchase the IfHI tapes and enjoy.




Interesting...glad i don't skip meals!

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calorie restriction yet nutrient dense is what leads to longevity....
not to forget the eating right for type or GT part!!!
lifestyle and activity levels as well as age are all computed into SWAMI


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calorie restriction yet nutrient dense is what leads to longevity....


This is my approach too, Lola.    I think of myself as eating only the amount of food and calories as my body needs in order to maintain ideal weight and health.  I don't eat any empty food or unneeded calories, but my nutrient intake is very rich and well-balanced.



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my MIL lived to be 100!
she ate like a bird.....lucid till the very end, yet she didn t eat right

I am convinced she would still be alive and kicking had she been following her O type nutrigenomic basic guidelines......


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From the things that I've read about Calorie Restrictive Diet. The factor that weighs in the most, as far as causes on extended longevity. It the fact the with a restrictive diet one puts less pressure on one's internal organs because they are not required to works hard or work overtime due to the processing of food intake. In simpler terms you don't wear your guts out as fast.


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Quoted from Lola
calorie restriction yet nutrient dense is what leads to longevity....
not to forget the eating right for type or GT part!!!
lifestyle and activity levels as well as age are all computed into SWAMI




Some of what Dr. D did say was about fasting for short periods of time, not the same as calorie restriction to me.


Got s sneak peek of the CD's just to write a short article.




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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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In the qigong sense, eating too much a lot takes energy that could be used for healing and enhancing health into digesting and breaking down food instead.  When you are full, you can't concentrate as well and you don't perform as well physically...the energy is focused in the stomach.  But if you are hungry, you cannot either.  

The organs degenerate more quickly and the cells break down faster.  Thats what i learned in qigong  books by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming.  Even drinks that are not water are food for the body.
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The term Calorie Restriction can mean different things.  The studies that were done by people looking quite emaciated, barely eating enough to stay alive, is not my approach to calorie restriction.  I probably eat 1/2 the volume of food that I ate for most of my life, yet the nutrient value of what I eat is head and shoulders above any of those years.  And the appropriateness of the foods for my own body is a pleasure to all my organs.  

As Easy E described, eating too much requires more energy than it contributes.  And as Vegan Joe said, I see no need to force my poor internal organs to overwork in order to process more food than my body needs.  I'm all for clean-burning fuel and an efficient internal 'motor'.  



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I believe that they did not have nearly as much to eat overall instantly available, no matter what they ate.  To me, the calorie consumption matters as well...Dr. D has a post about caloric restriction and increased longevity.  

Today we have a lot of farming and mass produced food, fast food, etc.  We don't go hungry, but its a double edged sword.  Now we have to resist the instinct to eat fatty burgers, fried chicken, fries etc. (at least i do, i love the stuff!  We also have calorie rich drinks all around.  


For me, personally, this just isn't true.  I've been counting calories since my first diet at age 10.  Restricting calories, FOR ME, is the surest way to mental food issues and regaining any weight I might have lost doing it through calorie restriction.

I have lost nearly 50 pounds since Feb 1, following the GTD only,and restricting my grain intake as much as I can without triggering mental food issues.  I absolutely do NOT count or restrict calories.  With the amount of fat that I eat each day (which keeps me out of the grains), I would guess my caloric intake to be relatively high, but it has had no effect on my continuing to lose weight.

Counting calories, FOR ME, doesn't work at all.  Just avoiding avoids, highlighting the bennies and keeping them in the forefront and eating a good variety and amount of neutrals - as well as exercising regularly - is all that I need to do!



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Yes!  The less you eat, the longer you live.


I absolutely do not agree.  This is the sort of blanket statement that goes completely against everything that we follow on these boards.

Perhaps,for SOME PEOPLE the less they eat,the longer they live, but I don't think that you can say that for everyone.



FRESH START TODAY!!!
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I absolutely do not agree.  This is the sort of blanket statement that goes completely against everything that we follow on these boards.

Perhaps,for SOME PEOPLE the less they eat,the longer they live, but I don't think that you can say that for everyone.





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