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Sahara
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I am not suggesting there are any.  Am just wondering.
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I feel like I live off of meat, but not red meat - only poultry and fish


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Non-secretor A's can have more red meat than secretors, and A2's have even more.  A's who are Explorers have lamb as a diamond and a few other meats as superfoods.  

The key is to be moderate and not go to extremes with it.



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I definately need some.  Not every day or anything.  Maybe a couple times a week.  Lean red meat.  Also a good bit of fish, some poultry.  
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Actual ground beef from cows?  I thought blood type As did poorly on that.
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As a general rule, blood type As do poorly on ground beef. But some of them are healthy enough to enjoy a burger once in a while without problems (just as some Os can eat that wheat bun occasionally without significant problems) and others actually thrive on the equivilent of one burger per week or per month.


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Actual ground beef from cows?  I thought blood type As did poorly on that.


Other red meats are a better choice, such as lamb, rabbit, goat -- red meats for Explorer A's or Non-Secretor A's who are following the BTD.  A few times a week.  Poultry choices are in addition to these.  



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Ground beef is usually fatty, but i do like hamburgers on occassion.  I meant like a lean cut of steak or wild meat.  I always ate it since i grew teeth.  But i always avoided fat on the meat if it had any.  Explorers do well with some.  I cut out red meat completely for about a year and felt short of breath and anxiety developed.  I started eating it again and this went away.
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Oh so it has to do with being a specific genotype.  Ohhhh.  
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Oh so it has to do with being a specific genotype.  Ohhhh.  


or a non-secretor A who follows the BTD



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Oh so it has to do with being a specific genotype.  Ohhhh.  


Teacher A's and Explorer A's seem quite different.  I'm an Explorer.  I originially thought I was a Teacher and tried to eliminate meat.  It only lasted for a couple days, but I felt like complete c**p!  I definitely need poultry and fish.  I think I may be a non secretor as well, which would increase my need for meat.


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I am not suggesting there are any.  Am just wondering.

Not the two in my house...  They both do very well with turkey and fish, though.  My DD(Explorer GT) needs more meat (turkey or fish) than my WW (Teacher GT)...


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A's are complicated.


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A's are complicated.


Yes, we are. But I love some lamb every now and then. It's neutral for me.




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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
A's are complicated.


And misunderstood..   I don't as a rule like red meat. Once in a great while..I'll have meatballs..or ribs.  
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I have lamb as neutral, I eat it about 3 times a year. No more cow meat, ever, not after I heard the good Dr. say it causes the veins in As to flap like venetian blinds.


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I have lamb as neutral, I eat it about 3 times a year. No more cow meat, ever, not after I heard the good Dr. say it causes the veins in As to flap like venetian blinds.


What exactly does that mean?  Are you referring to vericose veins?


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My Mom's family were gourmets and adventurous so I was raised on all kinds of food. By the time I was a teenager I knew that red meat wasn't for me. I didn't digest it well, had IBS issues and didn't like the taste.

I gave it up for Lent in 1996 and have only tried a bite of a lean burger and a very small bite of ham since....both made me gag and in the restroom for 2 days!

The only exception is lamb. I have only eaten some 3 or 4 times in the past 15 years. I know if I ate it on a regular basis I would be ok. I actually feel the need for turkey or fish if I go more than 2 days without. I really get weak without them. Maybe its the % of explorer in my "teacherhood"......

    


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Forgot to add about the varicose veins!
I didn't know Dr. D said that but he must know something.....being raised as a child on red meat.....by my 25th birthday I already had one bulging vein in my calf, and I was not overweight. fast forward to my 30's and 40's with more bulges, a "vein strip" surgery and several "collapsing" injections.


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I think that A's have a lot more variation than any other blood type.  I mean there is A1, A2, other rarer types of A's.  I am an A2o explorer, and prob a non secretor from what i have read.  I think this is why i crave and need different meats.  Who knows?
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This explorer loves her red meat.  Maybe partly for the iron which I'm always low on.  Us A nonnies have more stomach acid, but we must watch to have lean meat, we have less Intestinal Alkaline Phosphatase to digest fat.  Never liked fatty parts as a kid even (including pork crackling thought everyone was balmy lovin' that!).

Hi Easy E - since you are the rare A2 you could change your badge to show you're A2.  I'm an A1o and I think I have some O traits, eating meat seems to be one of them!   It all makes sense since explorers are born out of O and A types breeding together, there'd be a few AO type Explorers.


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I get lamb, goat, rabbit, and mutton as diamond red meats, in addition to those I get venison and moose on my SWAMI as neutrals with caribou as a black dot.

I don't get moose or caribou too often not living in a very cold climate of course, but I like venison.


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Quoted from Symbi
   I'm an A1o and I think I have some O traits, eating meat seems to be one of them!   It all makes sense since explorers are born out of O and A types breeding together, there'd be a few AO type Explorers.

thats intresting. my mother is an O but her mother was an A. mom reacts diferntly to the same things dad and i injoy with out problems. she is defaneantly not a hunter but could she be an exsporer?



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Os can certainly be Explorers.

We're all unique individuals. I'm an O Gatherer, my oldest daughter is an O and measures out to be a Gatherer, and my Mom is an O and most likely a Gatherer (she's never been measured but she has a lot of Gatherer traits.) So, with 3 O Gatherers in the same family, we still don't need the same exact foods or have the same needs. My Mom does best with oatmeal, nuts, and fruit for breakfast- lowcarb eggs and veggies don't hold her. I find the opposite. My daughter needs much less meat than I do, and can thrive on higher amounts of cheese and grains. We have different foods as our "worst avoids."

So, even if your mom is a Gatherer like you, she can still have different responses to some foods.


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I don't do well on red meat - they are all avoids on my Swami and they feel very heavy and uncomfortable to digest. Before BTD I didn't like to have beef or lamb too often but when I did eat it it was always as lean as I could get it or slow cooked to get it super tender.

I do need some meat though - I love salmon, it makes me feel good   and I would struggle without some chicken/turkey for variety.


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I eat plenty of chicken, turkey and fish but I usually don't feel good after eating red meat so I'll only eat it on special occasions.


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Don't eat any meat except turkey once in awhile, makes me terribly constipated. I guess it is doing to my digestive tact exactly what it does to my blood vessels.



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Thanks Andrea, yup the blood vessels have "flaps" for lack of a better word, that open and close as needed. Say for instance you have a cut and your body needs to send repair 'stuff' to the wound, the 'flaps' in the blood vessels open up to let that repair goop out to the right spot. Red meat makes those flaps open and close even when they don't need to, letting out the wrong stuff at the wrong time and just generally messing everything up.


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Easy E and Symbi,
I am an Ao also...Mom is A+ and Dad is O- explorer. That is probably why my swami gives me Ostrich, Squab and Turkey as superfoods and Chicken and Cornish hens as neutrals. Goat and Lamb are black dots.
Its good that we listen to our bodies. Mine lets me know when I need my favorite salmon, cod or turkey! Just like it told me loud and clear to run like the wind from beef and pork!


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I eat plenty of chicken, turkey and fish but I usually don't feel good after eating red meat so I'll only eat it on special occasions.




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I have always found beef revolting.  I eat lamb about once a month and chicken livers maybe
4 times a year. I eat turkey and lots of fish but I didn't even like beef as a child.  I would eat
my sister's baked potato (plus my own) and give her my steak. I think my sister just might be
an Explorer.  She's always craved meat.


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Thats funny, Chloe!
My Mom tried to make me eat liver once a month and I would get a big glass of milk, a bottle of catsup and be all dramatic and act like I was being sacrificial/ obedient.....then sneak every last bite to my sweet little black poodle, Gigi who sat and ate very quietly under my chair!


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what chicken liver should be avoided by A's?!!!


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I guess A2 and Ao don't matter much with meat lovin'.  It may be a problem being an A and liking and actually feeling energized eating meat.  If it has any significant fat, it weighs me down like I ate lead tho!  I can feel it in my blood !!
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With lean meat this does not happen at all tho
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My Type A husband loves lamb.  It doesn't give him indigestion, which makes me think he might be a nonnie.
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I guess A2 and Ao don't matter much with meat lovin'.  It may be a problem being an A and liking and actually feeling energized eating meat.  If it has any significant fat, it weighs me down like I ate lead tho!  I can feel it in my blood !!


For me, the fattier the better.  Lean meat leaves me feeling like I ate nothing.  When I eat non-oily fish I slather ghee all over the veggies or whatever else I eat with it.  (or sometimes I just eat ghee straight out of the jar)


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Back when I had hypoglycemia, I thought I thrived on red meat.  I ate beef just about every single day.  I had to have all that protein, I thought, to regulate my low blood sugar.  Enter BTD.  Not only do I no longer have hypoglycemia, but I figured out after I quit red meat, that it was actually making me tired and sluggish. And causing constipation.  But if you'd told me that pre-BTD, I wouldn't have believed you.


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My AB aunt loved beef & ate lots of hamburger patties in her lifetime.  She is still here at 98, but in bad shape. However, most of her life she appeared healthy & rarely went to the dr.
I am suspecting she is an explorer as I have written before. She is very sensitive to meds & certain things.
Funny thing, she smoked like a chimney & was a coffee fiend. But for other things, she was careful.

So, the answer may be genotype as well as individual peculiarites.....


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Don't eat any meat except turkey once in awhile, makes me terribly constipated. I guess it is doing to my digestive tact exactly what it does to my blood vessels.





Really??? I love Turkey. Constipation? I consumed a fair bit or turkey regularly during different periods of having the best digestion of my life.

However if I try to do red meat and eat higher meat I get the serious digestion problems Dr. D talks about.
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I'm a Hunter.  I would pay one million dollars to go back in time to the 90s & eat red meat every day at U.T.
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I have a daughter, not living at home, who was a vegetarian for 5 years. She put on abut 15 lb. Then when she started eating meat again, and lost all the weight, I assumed that she was a type O. Now, she tells me that she just had her blood tested and she is A-. I guess from the previous conversations, I can assume she is a Nonnie like me. She's not interested in the BTD, or variations. I'm just wondering if I could slip in a few comments to help her out (she is a good cook, and has a reputation  of liking  a huge variety of food). What could I tell her, or is this expecting too much with the limited information I have??


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I feel like humans evolved to eat various meats and seafood (depending on ur type) and veggies, and fruits...maybe occassional seeds.  I strive to limit any whole grain (except some rice) and rare if any dairy at all.
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Quoted from Easy E
I feel like humans evolved to eat various meats and seafood (depending on ur type) and veggies, and fruits...maybe occassional seeds.  I strive to limit any whole grain (except some rice) and rare if any dairy at all.


Amen to that


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Poppy, vegetarian usually means lots of dairy/cashews/starches/etc.

She could be a non-secretor, as you are.  Type A non-secretors have corn (all forms) and wheat as avoids.  

If she isn't interested, not much you can do...
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Cajun - Did wonder if there are any other AOs on here.  Thanks for sharing.  Our parents blood types don't go into SWAMI, but like you, I get similar foods as an explorer - we must have similar health problems too.  I think I associate with the type O information written in LR4YT, the explorer seems to be a mixture of O and A information.
I feel like I'm a mixture of each genotype, some warrior sluggish digestion issues (have 3 arches on fingers) but I need red meat, as evidenced by low iron.  Used to crave beef every month  .  Now I have lamb instead (lucky to live in Australia!) and amazingly my cholesterol has gone down since last year.  (I cut out chicken wings but still have chicken drumsticks with skin every now and then.)  Now it's perfect with HDL 2.05 (protective should be above 1) and LDL 1.86 (should be below 2).  Iron has gone up with help of superfood molasses too.

Dr D said that A type explorers are one of the groups that didn't do so well on the blood type diet as they needed meat which was against type.

DoS - I think Andrea meant, like you, that any meat except turkey gives her constipation.


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I feel like what you said symbi!  Explorers are hard to pinpoint.  Heck, i'm trying to learn myself!  I found that i prob have hidden food allergies to wheats and many whole grains.  I was also drinking beer each day   At the time, i considered food allergies meant you were on the ground gasping for air. A few times i was on the ground hocking up mucus!!  I thought they were what i needed most for awhile, but i was having chronic acid issues.  I also avoided meat, especially red meat.
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Easy E and Symbi,

I agree with you two. We are all individuals, so different, but much alike in our
Ao combos, explorer tendencies and need for real protein. I can go one day without meat(turkey, fish, chicken) but then by day 2 my body has to have it.
My swami actually says I am a reactive teacher!

Poppy,

I have a close friend who is A- and I just know she is an explorer. She sees what BTD/GTD has done for me and is so curious but swears she has to have lean red meat about twice a week. Just like what Symbi said about Dr.D mentioning that A explorers are hard to figure out with the meat situation.



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Well, maybe when my daughter is home next we will do some measuring, and see what comes up! Now I am a bit reassured that eating red meat for her is not necessarily bad, since it SEEMS to have been helping her. Thanks for the insight, and I'll tell her about the corn and wheat.


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Poppy,

Can you tell her the true story about the innocent man who was accused of a crime when he was only 18 years old.  He finally was released from prison more than 10 years later because the perpetrator was a secretor and he was a non-secretor.    If you put the "CSI" type of spin on it, and explain that you are a non-secretor, maybe she'll want to find out if she is a secretor.

Warning:  the following links talk about crimes in detail

Here's some other secretor/non-secretor crime stories:

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/Michael_Green.php

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/Steven_Barnes.php

Texas.  Gary Richard of Houston has spent the last 22 years in prison  http://truthinjustice.org/gary-richard.htm

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Great idea Vicki!  It's all science and fascinating.

Glad we can all relate, we are all different, but in many ways alike, Explorers unite!
Same here Cajun, I can have beans, lentils etc but feel mucho saisfaction when I have meat.  Just got my chompers all fixed lately and it's good to have the fighting gear (what Dad used to call cutlery) in order.  2 Amalgums removed today, chelating with algae, feels lighter


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Human beings are meant to eat meat!  Break out the BBQ pits!!
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My mother and sister, both A's, love red meat. I wonder if they're Explorers? My sister was born left handed, but she definitley has Warrior traits, 5'9 1/2 ' longish head, but not as long as mine. Short temper...When I get some money, I'm getting her GenoTyped by Dr. D. I can't figure her out.
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Easy e..you are a delight!

Symbi,
Please tell me everything you eat to chelate?
I live near an EMF cell tower and I am going to have a CTscan of my sinuses.
I eat alot of parsley, cilantro and leafy greens and am trying to get some "anti-radiation" material to put on my house.
I also will be changing out some old amalgam fillings soon.


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Thanks Cajun!  I like to BBQ!  With some good veggies and maybe rice or something as sides.  Or cheats like fries!!  
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Yay Cajun - I'm sure you'll love it too.  Here's some info I found to detox from mercury.  Sounds like you're doing some of those good things already. http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm
I've been using chlorella before meals and mega dose on the day, more garlic and already take most of the supplements he mentions.  Also doing apple, carrot, celery juices.  
Grape juice or wine if you prefer , helps reduce free radical damage from radiation.  All antioxidants will help after the CT scan.  

lol Easy E - bring out the bbq pits but not the arm pits!


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I feel the need to be posting this information wherever grilling meat is mentioned.  If you've read it before please forgive me.

Before you grill please read "Using rosemary to reduce the toxins in grilling"  Spices do have alot of power to help us.  At least that's my belief.  Of course, it is not advisable to eat charred meat at all and they mention that.  

They offer marinades using rosemary spice and if you don't care for the taste of rosemary they also offer a marinade using onions, garlic, and lemon juice.  These are also known to help reduce toxins when grilling.

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Cherry juice and cherries are also good to use when grilling, they also reduce toxins.


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MMMMMMMM ...I can smell your BBQ, EasyE! Now I am hungry for some of that delicious cajun food y'all cook down your way! Do you make maix choux (sp?)
I know corn is bad...its a black dot on my swami...but that stuff is great!
I think I am going to make me some red beans and rice tonight...my husband is grilling salmon.(always with the garlic, lemon and rosemary )

Thank you so much Symbi! Great advice to follow!


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You're welcome Cajun!  I had some mercury symptoms but overall I feel better having had two fillings out so far, one to go!  Chlorella is agreeing with me.  Going alkaline is good!

Bbq food gives me indigestion   maybe it's all the fat as well as burnt charcoal and how food gets dry and overcooked (depends on the chef I guess).  Much nicer to hot pan fry and sear meat IMHO.  Don't even use the griller, prefer baking too.

I read that when your meat turns black the amino acids are getting modified into potential carcinogens. Yuk


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Poppy, I know many a fluffy vegetarian who can't figure out why they're fat.  They eat lots and lots of bread.  You know, whole wheat, organic bread.  Tons of it.  Because otherwise they're hungry.  When your daughter started eating meat, she wasn't so hungry and she probably ate a lot less bread.  Anybody would lose weight if they cut out bread.  That's why all these type A Atkins followers (my mother-in-law for one) stick with it even though they feel bad.


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Cajun, i don't make much cajun food, but i used to eat corn maix choux a lot until i realized corn isn't the best thing for me.  I'm lucky rice is a superfood for me...i always loved rice, almost any type of way or plain!  Rice dressing and jambalaya are great when its fluffy and not greasy!  I bet it could be done with turkey instead of beef, or turkey sausage instead of pork.
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Cajun, i don't make much cajun food, but i used to eat corn maix choux a lot until i realized corn isn't the best thing for me.  I'm lucky rice is a superfood for me...i always loved rice, almost any type of way or plain!  Rice dressing and jambalaya are great when its fluffy and not greasy!  I bet it could be done with turkey instead of beef, or turkey sausage instead of pork.


Some types of rice are native or easily grown in Louisiana aren't they?


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Easy e,
I had great meatless jambalaya in N'Orleans last November! I don't eat corn or corn products anymore but will cheat for some maix choux when down your way.

I adore all kinds of rice and cook it often. My grandmere's wild rice was the
best in the world! ( I know its actually a grass...she would get it from Canada.)

Symbi,
My O-hunter husband loves to grill on our outdoor gas bbq grill. He uses rosemary to cover the meats because of the carcinogens. He cooks my salmon and tilapia in a pan of olive oil, onion, garlic and whatever herbs/spices I decide on for that meal....on the grill. We do use a favorite homemade bbq sauce for our grilled chicken sometimes.


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Dr. Diana Shwarzbein says eating animal foods like meat is part of agreeing to be part of the food chain.....makes sense to me.  I'm an O so of course I have to eat meat & love it.  I always wonder about As though.  I have an A friend a Teacher specifically who loves meat but has acid reflux from it or something else in his diet
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Dos he smoke?  That gave me acid reflux.
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As a general rule, blood type As do poorly on ground beef. But some of them are healthy enough to enjoy a burger once in a while without problems (just as some Os can eat that wheat bun occasionally without significant problems) and others actually thrive on the equivilent of one burger per week or per month.


I cannot tolerate the beef at all anymore since the most of it is fed corn, my worst non-secretor avoid!


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Can't believe I've never spotted this thread before! Thanks Seraffa  

Interesting...  I'd had blood sugar crashes at least once daily for many years, so my thought was that I needed a heartier protien to even out my blood sugar... So the "logical" answer was red meat. Funny how that didn't help... When I first read ER4YT I jumped up and did the happy dance when I saw that red meat is an "Avoid" on the "A" diet, as I've never cared for it. Immediately when I stopped with the read meat and in with more veg proteins - no more crashes!

I haven't eaten red meat in about five years and have never felt better! I don't much care for poultry, so I only eat turkey on Thanksgiving, and from all that has been in the news recently about the fish industry, I don't want to take my chances with that... So, I've become an "almost" vegetarian... I am a good little Type A patient of Dr. D's and enjoy me some escargot regularly!

This Type A GT3 Teacher gives red meat a Big Fat Thumbs Down

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Red Meat On The Warrior Plan

Q:  My parents are taking my wife and me to my favorite steakhouse for our anniversary — but I'm a Warrior, and there aren't any red meats on my plan. Why is that? Can I have a steak just this once?

A: Dr D:  Red meat isn't on your plan because Warriors tend to be fast acetylators. What this means is that they typically have trouble cleaning out certain environmental toxins from their bodies. Red meat contains Toxins that wreak havoc in the body if they aren't filtered out; instead of removing them, Warriors convert these by-products into carcinogens, which can bind to DNA and end up causing stomach, colon, or breast cancer. That's a steep price to pay for a piece of steak!

But this doesn't mean you can't enjoy the steakhouse! Have you ever tried a grilled salmon fillet, or perhaps red snapper? Fish is both delicious and nutritious, providing healthy fat and protein.


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re above quote..."Red meat isn't on your plan because Warriors tend to be fast acetylators. What this means is that they typically have trouble cleaning out certain environmental toxins from their bodies..." Surely that should read "slow acetylators"?
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A2 variants and Teachers can handle Lamb


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re above quote..."Red meat isn't on your plan because Warriors tend to be fast acetylators. What this means is that they typically have trouble cleaning out certain environmental toxins from their bodies..." Surely that should read "slow acetylators"?

No, according to The Genotype Diet" pg. 164, Warrior is the fast-acetylator and Explorer is the under-acetylator.  It says the over-acetylation converts the waste into carcinogens that bind to the DNA to cause cancers of the stomach, colon and breast.


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what is A1 A2 etc? I havent seen this before
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So far I have not see A`s that does well with lean meat like beef.


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what is A1 A2 etc? I havent seen this before


The two principal subgroups of A are A1 and A2.
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Subgroups_of_Type_A


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what is A1 A2 etc? I havent seen this before


A1, A2, A3 are blood subtypes.

A blood test is required to determine a person's subtype.

These have a very minor impact on diet recommendations.

Explained here:

http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_subtypes.htm





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re above quote..."Red meat isn't on your plan because Warriors tend to be fast acetylators. What this means is that they typically have trouble cleaning out certain environmental toxins from their bodies..." Surely that should read "slow acetylators"?


They overprocess it and it turns into a toxin, as opposed to a slow acetylator such as explorers, who require red meats to function at their best regardless of bloodtype. For explorers it should be lean, whearas hunters and nomads do not have to be as concerned about fat content.

Basically A explorer types will actually require red meats (and other meats) to function their best.  Lesser so than a hunter or gatherer though.

  



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