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Is this necessary?  A friend recently told me that nuts should never be eaten without going through soaking and drying.  I read some articles on that as well.


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This applies to "raw" nuts or seeds.  Perhaps the product has already been soaked in the preparation process before packaging.


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some do, some don t.....it s a choice

soaking also helps denature phytic acid
The book Nourishing Traditions says that "Salt in soaking water activates enzymes that
neutralize enzyme inhibitors."


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some do, some don t.....it s a choice

soaking also helps denature phytic acid
The book Nourishing Traditions says that "Salt in soaking water activates enzymes that
neutralize enzyme inhibitors."


I know..that's the one I read.  Sigh!!  Additional work with food prep!  I barely have time for work anymore, because I'm spending so much time with food prep and exercise!  It has paid off, but not much work is being done!  

But, the alternative is to spend more time at work and deteriorate!  


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I belive it is good - i find that i digest nuts better that way.

( yep I am a Nourish tradition follower as well as doc D  )
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soaking-seeds-and-nuts/


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I do soak and dry, it seems to make a difference for me. I had a patient once who had horrible stomach pains every afternoon. She thought it was stress. We went over what she ate during the day and it turned out she ate 7 raw walnuts every morning. I told her about soaking and drying and all that. She stopped eating the walnuts altogether, proper preparation being too much trouble, but her stomach completely cleared up without the walnuts.....
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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
I belive it is good - i find that i digest nuts better that way.

( yep I am a Nourish tradition follower as well as doc D  )
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soaking-seeds-and-nuts/



All the health benefits aside, pecans, peanuts. almonds and walnuts are OUT OF THIS WORLD FLAVOR WISE, when you soak and roast them.  I am a religious soaker.  I did it though because of the health benefits.  But pecans, I kid you not, taste like butter.  BUTTER!  Don't you agree Henriette?  The almonds and peanuts just taste better than they already do.  Which is weird because I'm already in love with them without doing all that.  But they're better.  Walnuts REALLY benefit from it because the bitterness is gone, which I think is there with walnuts, and they become more oily.  Oh man.  I could eat buckets of all of these all day long.

I have never soaked and roasted macadamia nuts though.  Or cashews.  But I don't eat neither of those as frequent as I do the other four I mentioned.  

Try it.  You haven't lived until you've had them this way.  Seriously.  


I also soak all my grains the way they tell you to.  And I find they digest MUCH MUCH MUCH better.  FWIW.


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I have never soaked and roasted macadamia nuts though.  Or cashews.  But I don't eat neither of those as frequent as I do the other four I mentioned.  

Try it.  You haven't lived until you've had them this way.  Seriously.  


Did you mean to say, "roasted?"

I did try the ones that my friend had, and I much prefer the nuts without the soaking and drying.  She dried them in the dehydrator.

What about raw almond butter?  They probably haven't been soaked, dried and then made into butter?  Is this digestible?


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I have some questions.

How long do you soak the nuts?

Are you air drying or oven drying? (I don't have a dehydrator).  If oven drying, what is the temperature
and for how long?


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overnight soaking....
lowest oven setting preferably.....or simply air dry...then store in the fridge


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I have some questions.

How long do you soak the nuts?

Are you air drying or oven drying? (I don't have a dehydrator).  If oven drying, what is the temperature
and for how long?


Here's a link to soaking times for different nuts.
http://www.raw-food-living.com/soaking-nuts.html


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Yeah you are right they taste better  Joe
I never soak macadamias  
cashews I don´t eat - forgot how they taste.


I soak mine overnight  and dry in a lukewarn fan oven lowest setting I think it is about 50 C

I am not supposed to eat filberts/hazelnuts ... but I got 3 bushes in my garden and i find I can easily eat them when I have soaked and dried them.

However  only party on them in September and october


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This is a must read for our A and AB types who are vegans or vegetarians:
http://nourishedkitchen.com/what-vegns-can-learn-from-traditional-foods/?


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This is a must read for our A and AB types who are vegans or vegetarians:
http://nourishedkitchen.com/what-vegns-can-learn-from-traditional-foods/?


that is great resource and i think more vegetarians out there should read it  
great reading  I am inspired to  whip up something delish that is cultured and amazingly good for me !

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I had tried soaking and drying nuts in the oven (pine nuts, pecans, macademia) and honestly, they came out terrible and I'm not sure why.  My son, who loves nuts, didn't like them either.  Ilooked into a dehydrator, but the stainless steel ones are expensive and I would not purchase a plastic one due to chemicals leaching into the food.  I had read that if you purchase the nuts already roasted that you don't have to worry about the phytic acid.  So I just buy roasted nuts.  Can anyone confirm or deny that claim for me???

Interesting though...I have not soaked and THEN roasted nuts....maybe that would be better.  Could someome explain how exactly to roast them?  In a pan on the stove....what setting and how long?  


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I soak mine all night. I put some salt in with the water.  About a teaspoon for every 24 oz of nuts.  Then I strain in the morning.  I spread mine out on a serving plate, normal ceramic type or my silpat and roast them all day at 150 degrees.  

If you don't think they taste better.  Something is wrong.     Especially with the walnuts.  Of course I'm a prop taster and possibly a super taster, so I might taste the bitterness more than others might, if they're not soaked.

If you try to do this with already roasted nuts, it will turn out bad.  They have to be raw, with nothing done to them.

The problem with buying them already roasted is they aren't soaked usually.  And they usually add cottonseed/canola/soybean or some kind of oil I don't want.


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I can't bring myself to eating and enjoying nuts. My mom soaks almonds all the time. She says it makes the nutrition in them more biogenetically available... or something like that.

As an A - Warrior type I should be eating more nuts and seeds. It's just not something I'm into eating. Maybe that'll change with time. *crosses her fingers* I also have been trying to get myself to eat artichokes. That not easy either. I would if it was just the heart and it was marinated, but that is usually done in vinegar of some kind.

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Hmmm, that's how I did it, but I didn't put them in the oven for the whole day.....just maybe several hours.  Maybe they didn't dry out enough. And I didn't try walnuts....I did pecans, pine nuts and macademia.  But even after a few hours at 150, the pecans started to turn dark, almost burnt. So I'm not sure I could do it all day.  

I always thought roasting involved putting them in a pan on the stove with oil at higher temps.   Maybe I will have to try it again.  Maybe use the bottom rack in the oven instead of the middle one.  

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Oh... one more thought... I can understand soaking raw nuts. By why would you purposely cook them after soaking them? Cooking kills a lot of the good nutrition in things. Correct me if I'm wrong on this. Thanks. I'm a taster/super taster also. Maybe my problem with nuts being bitter is because I need to soak and roast them. HMMM, interesting!


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Oh... one more thought... I can understand soaking raw nuts. By why would you purposely cook them after soaking them? Cooking kills a lot of the good nutrition in things. Correct me if I'm wrong on this. Thanks. I'm a taster/super taster also. Maybe my problem with nuts being bitter is because I need to soak and roast them. HMMM, interesting!


Yep!  That's what I've heard, too..that cooking them destroys the enzymes.


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Do the nuts need to be organic, or can we eat conventional?  With the thick hulls that they have, I can't see how any pesticides could get through...


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I soak and dehydrate almonds, walnuts, pecans, and pistachios. I find a longer dehydrating time at a lower temp produces a better tasting nut.

I tried soaking and dehydrating filberts but they don't come out well, so I am going to roast them. Same as pumpkin seeds. They taste better roasted to me.

Keep in mind the fattier nuts need longer dehydrating times. Some times I will let the dehydrator go for 5 days on a single batch of nuts.


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I had tried soaking and drying nuts in the oven (pine nuts, pecans, macademia) and honestly, they came out terrible and I'm not sure why.  My son, who loves nuts, didn't like them either.  Ilooked into a dehydrator, but the stainless steel ones are expensive and I would not purchase a plastic one due to chemicals leaching into the food.  I had read that if you purchase the nuts already roasted that you don't have to worry about the phytic acid.  So I just buy roasted nuts.  Can anyone confirm or deny that claim for me???

Interesting though...I have not soaked and THEN roasted nuts....maybe that would be better.  Could someome explain how exactly to roast them?  In a pan on the stove....what setting and how long?  



You don't have to soak white nuts like the macadamia nut. Roasting deals with the enzyme inhibitors and phytic acid but I believe it comes with a price... I don't think buying roasted nuts is any better than eating raw nuts since they are usually cooked with bad oils.

I only soak brown rice, quinoa and buckwheat overnight. I've tried soaking some nuts and seeds but it's hard to get them dry and crispy again without the proper equipment. IMO they taste better after soaking. When I tried to dry them in my oven they didn't get crispy after 14 hours! Yes, I left them in there for so long, but at a extremely low temperature to save the nutrients.

**GROSS ALERT**

Does anyone know if it's normal for the nuts and seeds to come out in the same form they went in (white pieces in stool)? Seems to happen every time I consume any type of nut or seed. Soaked or not. I really want to eat them again, but it feels like they are hurting me...
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**GROSS ALERT**

Does anyone know if it's normal for the nuts and seeds to come out in the same form they went in (white pieces in stool)? Seems to happen every time I consume any type of nut or seed. Soaked or not. I really want to eat them again, but it feels like they are hurting me...


Are you aware that each mouthful of food should chewed a lot before swallowing?

http://ezinearticles.com/?Do-You-Fully-Chew-Your-Food-Before-Swallow&id=2797347




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Are you aware that each mouthful of food should chewed a lot before swallowing?

http://ezinearticles.com/?Do-You-Fully-Chew-Your-Food-Before-Swallow&id=2797347





Yes I am, I chew my food really thoroughly and don't drink any fluids with meals. I've tried HCL supplement but I felt burning sensation which means that I have strong stomach acid, so that can't be the problem. Type Os should have a strong digestive system... I've tried enzymes as well which didn't help either so I'm not sure what's going on.
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