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Mercedes
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Inulin is usually available at any healthfood store as it's a prebiotic supplement.

I can't tell you the ratio though, as I bought mine pre mixed. My guess is it would be at least 1:4 stevia to inulin, but I could be wrong.
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Scientists have proved for the first time that fructose, a cheap form of sugar used in thousands of food products and soft drinks, can damage human metabolism and is fuelling the obesity crisis.
Fructose, a sweetener usually derived from corn, can cause dangerous growths of fat cells around vital organs and is able to trigger the early stages of diabetes and heart disease.
Over 10 weeks, 16 volunteers on a controlled diet including high levels of fructose produced new fat cells around their heart, liver and other digestive organs. They also showed signs of food-processing abnormalities linked to diabetes and heart disease. Another group of volunteers on the same diet, but with glucose sugar replacing fructose, did not have these problems.
This study takes its place in a growing line up of scientific studies demonstrating that consuming high-fructose corn syrup is the fastest way to trash your health. It is now known without a doubt that sugar in your food, in all its myriad of forms, is taking a devastating toll.
And fructose in any form -- including high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) and crystalline fructose -- is the worst of the worst!
Fructose is a major contributor to:
•     Insulin resistance and obesity
•     Elevated blood pressure
•     Elevated triglycerides and elevated LDL
•     Depletion of vitamins and minerals
•     Cardiovascular disease, liver disease, cancer, arthritis and even gout
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Ooh that is even scarier...
High-fructose corn syrup, or glucose-fructose syrup, is listed as an ingredient in many food and drink products in Britain, although it is virtually impossible for consumers to know the quantity and ratio of fructose used. “Historically, we never consumed much sugar. We’re not built to process it. ”
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Possum, thanks, many thanks for that information. I'm definitely passing this on to some folks I know. All that being read............does make ya wonder about the agave.  



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Here is an article about agave, claiming it is refined fructose and "Agave nectar is a newly created sweetener, having been developed during the 1990's."

http://www.elanaspantry.com/forums/topic/agave-nectar-hfcs-in-disguise

I think after reading this, I am going to throw out my agave =/
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first check your ingredients.....or find agave syrup without added HFCS!


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I found this site recently, and they go into a very good explanation on the differences of agave manufacturers and their products. Personally, I am switching to them for my agave.

(I have shortened the URL to make it easier)

" Things you should know about Agave in the market"
http://fwd4.me/AEz

"Not All Agave Nectar's Are Equal"
http://fwd4.me/AEw


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Quoted from JackO
" Things you should know about Agave in the market"
http://fwd4.me/AEz
"Not All Agave Nectar's Are Equal"
http://fwd4.me/AEw


   I'm afraid to look...........I have about a dozen bottles. I'll read up on this tomorrow. Thanks for posting.



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I have learned that any article from the general media is usually biased in one way or another.  They are useful in that they provide a good springboard on a conversation topic.  The key point is 'do your research' and ask lots of questions.
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I have learned that any article from the general media is usually biased in one way or another.  They are useful in that they provide a good springboard on a conversation topic.  The key point is 'do your research' and ask lots of questions.


Indeed info gathering, understanding, and the decision process is vital for each of us. However the benefit we have here is Dr. D (and his dad) have devoted their life quest to the information and guidance he shares. The good news is the research has already been done and continues.

I am a businessman, I don't have the scientific background nor the time to perform the indepth research it takes to do what Dr. D has done. For that I am grateful beyond words

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   I'm afraid to look...........I have about a dozen bottles. I'll read up on this tomorrow. Thanks for posting.


, I feel for you    Fortunately, I am still experimenting and trying to find the Holly Grail of agave, so I just buy one bottle at a time from different sellers to test it.

I can tell you from personal experience the following about agave, which is a SF for me.

I am a diabetic type II, taking pills t.i.d. (3x a day) for this. I exercise a lot, running mostly 30-45 miles a week, and weightlifting.  I am not overweight, in fact lost 54 lbs last year.  I check my sugars 2 hours after meals, and they are always back under 100 (acceptable) range. So I can definitely report quantitatively about agave as it relates to me, as I can measure its effects.  

I have tried to use the other two world-wide agave manufacturer's products, no matter what labeling names they use, (Sweet Cactus Farms,  recently Wholesome Sweeteners, etc,) and my sugars do not come down under 100. They remain elevated. Supposedly these other two mfgs add Maltose and Mannitol, according to the site. Do they? I don't know, but measurably my sugars to not come down.

I have just ordered Blue Agave Nectar from Volcanicnectar and will report back on my findings when I receive it, try it out and test it against my sugar readings. I hope that this mfg will be true to its claim, unlike the others, and that my sugars will fall back in line after taking their product (given the exact same other food intake variables for the sampling).

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Indeed info gathering, understanding, and the decision process is vital for each of us. However the benefit we have here is Dr. D (and his dad) have devoted their life quest to the information and guidance he shares. The good news is the research has already been done and continues.

I am a businessman, I don't have the scientific background nor the time to perform the indepth research it takes to do what Dr. D has done. For that I am grateful beyond words

GZ


Well spoken. I agree completely. Here's to a Eagle day ! (Got one last January)


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Indeed info gathering, understanding, and the decision process is vital for each of us. However the benefit we have here is Dr. D (and his dad) have devoted their life quest to the information and guidance he shares. The good news is the research has already been done and continues.

GZ


I agree, most of the work has been done and the testimonials on these forums help to substantiate the research.  These forums help to wade through the myriad of information and come to an informed conclusion.


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I think I'll stick with using a  teaspoon or two a day, stirred into tea, and not use it for baking.


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That one is certified USDA organic


Are there a lot of US food products over there?
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Well spoken. I agree completely. Here's to a Eagle day ! (Got one last January)


JackO, that is so cool ~ congrats!!!

Hey also glad you have the big D undercontrol and hope it stays that way for you. I am very interested in your results as they emerge so post away. I guess a point to remember is everyone is an individual and results might vary for each of us to some degree or another.

Keep in touch my friend and maybe one day we will play




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Well spoken. I agree completely. Here's to a Eagle day ! (Got one last January)


BTW JackO, was your eagle on a par 4 or 5




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JackO, that is so cool ~ congrats!!!

Hey also glad you have the big D undercontrol and hope it stays that way for you. I am very interested in your results as they emerge so post away. I guess a point to remember is everyone is an individual and results might vary for each of us to some degree or another.

Keep in touch my friend and maybe one day we will play


Yes, the big D is under control, (knock on wood) so far. Thanks for your good wishes. I will keep all posted as to my findings as agave relates to my sugar levels. It gives me a track to run on anyway.

I will keep in touch, regarding golf too... I am only 5-6 hours away from you in KY. We can go tee it up in Augusta    

Must tell you a quick golf story, as I have never experienced this before. I had an Eagle and that day, my long-time regular playing partner had 2 !!!  Yes 2, last one on the 18th hole. In over 45 years of playing, I have never seen or been with anyone who had 2 eagles in a round ...... geesh   


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BTW JackO, was your eagle on a par 4 or 5


Par 5, 120 yard wedge gently rolled in the cup after two short hops


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Yes, the big D is under control, (knock on wood) so far. Thanks for your good wishes. I will keep all posted as to my findings as agave relates to my sugar levels. It gives me a track to run on anyway.

I will keep in touch, regarding golf too... I am only 5-6 hours away from you in KY. We can go tee it up in Augusta    

Must tell you a quick golf story, as I have never experienced this before. I had an Eagle and that day, my long-time regular playing partner had 2 !!!  Yes 2, last one on the 18th hole. In over 45 years of playing, I have never seen or been with anyone who had 2 eagles in a round ...... geesh   


Wow, I have had one eagle on a par 4, and a hole in one but not the same day. However, I have never seen two other than watching the Tour dudes tee it up on tv ~ amazing huh?
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Par 5, 120 yard wedge gently rolled in the cup after two short hops


Outstanding! What a sight to behold to be sure You must be a big hitter

I almost had another eagle about a year ago, drove it to about 25 yards off the green (par 4) and hit a sand wedge in, one bounce it went in the cup and bounced right back out!!! I couldn't believe it. I walk up looked in the hole and it was frozen full of ice. Hahahahahahaahaha!




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bet you now check the hole first!!


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bet you now check the hole first!!


Lol I'd sure have to with the weather we are experiencing now ~ geez!

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Outstanding! What a sight to behold to be sure You must be a big hitter

I almost had another eagle about a year ago, drove it to about 25 yards off the green (par 4) and hit a sand wedge in, one bounce it went in the cup and bounced right back out!!! I couldn't believe it. I walk up looked in the hole and it was frozen full of ice. Hahahahahahaahaha!


Not a big hitter any more - too old and humbled now    I'm just glad I can still play the only game you can't win

That frozen hole episode was a riot to hear... thanks for that.  It gave me a good laugh. I will take this off list now so that we do not get penalized stroke and distance !  Will send you PM tomorrow.


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