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Goldie
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we use agave...gave up sugar in our early 20's prior to reading Dr.D's diets. Our son, now 21 (hunter  nonni O - ) was apparently born with a mal functioning pancreas ie diabetic.He totally controls his condition with his diet and is very strong and healthy with no diabetic problems! He never had any sweets or sweeteners except for trying organic Stevia once and organic fruit fructose twice which gave him horrible shakes, depression,total high then total slump, sweats etc, Also tried xyitol which changed his personality within minutes, made him shaky and his heart race! Then a few years ago we discovered Agave syrup! He can take this in moderation and only uses it sparingly in festive cakes, the odd brownies etc but not on a daily basis.There was a time he was using it every day and he was dizzy, tired,sweats, poor concentration, poor immunity to flu type disease, poor sleeping, highs then lows, huge rings under his eyes etc, He cut it back and all the symptoms of diabetes have gone and he is fine. He has measured his blood sugar with and without Agave and there is no difference! If indicated for your type I think organic 100% Agave is ok in moderation,and  not every day.


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Hello all I am new one.  
I not fond of any sweetners.  Is having raw sugar ok for 0+ blood?
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Welcome Jo:

There are several products that use the term "Raw Sugar"

Depending on the product I would use the rating for sugar or sucanat.

Blood type rating for foods are given in type base.

Rating for most sugar variations:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?409

Rating for Sucanat (type of "raw sugar" sold in many health food stores):

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?407


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Just to clarify, agave is not 100% fructose, closer to 60%.  It has more fructose than glucose, so some with fructose malabsorption won't do well with it.  Those same people won't do well with apples, pears, or mango, for the same reason (molasses and most types of honey also have more fructose than glucose).  There are different degrees of fructose intolerance and malabsorption and different causes, but most people don't have to worry about  that.  If you get bloated after having those foods, a gastroenterologist can do a breath test for it.


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I have a question.  I'm just starting thus diet and I have a fructose intolerance and am blood type A.  In my list of foods that are beneficial and neutral I am told I cannot eat.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
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Because of my past medical history there are certain foods that could possibly trigger a coma.  

I do not eat these food regardless of how highly they are rated.

The blood type diet does not consider my medical history. I know what it is and see know reason to risk hospitalization ... just because the blood type diet says a food is okay.

If you know that you should not eat foods high in fructose, don't eat the foods that are high in fructose.

Some people overcome certain conditions after being on the diet for some time and can eat foods that they previously could not.

I see no reason to start with foods that you know create problems for you. Start with foods that are problem free.

Then after you have healed for some time and depending on the severity of previous food reactions and your willingness to risk those consequences you may want to test whether you could handle a food.


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Well said CS Also there are different ratings for different brands of agave syrup.. Wish I could remember where I saw it but just today I read about a lady who came across an older bottle of agave syrup she had & noticed the older one had a higher fibre content... So the manufacturing processing also may be different now, as the demand has increased?!
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Just thought I'd resurrect this thread as there is still controversy regarding agave

Is there any suitable 'sweetener' for all or most blood types? I veer between using stevia and agave...still cannot make up my mind which is best to soothe my sweet=tooth!

My  favourite chocolate indulgence is a a brand that uses coconut nectar which is verrry verrry nice, however it is just an occasional treat .
I bought some Unibars recently and see the first ingredient is agave....

Are there any recent updates on agave from Dr. D??


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Just thought I'd resurrect this thread as there is still controversy regarding agave

Is there any suitable 'sweetener' for all or most blood types? I veer between using stevia and agave...still cannot make up my mind which is best to soothe my sweet=tooth!

My  favourite chocolate indulgence is a a brand that uses coconut nectar which is verrry verrry nice, however it is just an occasional treat .
I bought some Unibars recently and see the first ingredient is agave....

Are there any recent updates on agave from Dr. D??


Ever try vegetable glycerin?

I don't think I'd use glycerin as a sole sweetener but this product works well for me.
http://www.nowfoods.com/BetterStevia-Glycerite-Alcohol-Free-2oz.htm

Never tried the powdered Better Stevia but seems good for cooking and baking
http://www.nowfoods.com/Foods/Better-Stevia/Products/Better-Stevia-Other/


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Quoted from rosa
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread as there is still controversy regarding agave

Is there any suitable 'sweetener' for all or most blood types? I veer between using stevia and agave...still cannot make up my mind which is best to soothe my sweet=tooth!

My  favourite chocolate indulgence is a a brand that uses coconut nectar which is verrry verrry nice, however it is just an occasional treat .
I bought some Unibars recently and see the first ingredient is agave....

Are there any recent updates on agave from Dr. D??


What i am using is chopped dates and honey.



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What i am using is chopped dates and honey.


  I thought rosa was looking for  a universal sweetener....so I offered her veg glycerin.  I can use dates and honey too...but not everyone can.

veg glycerin is neutral for all
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?601


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I can't use dates (theyr'e worse for my blood sugar than refined sugar!) but I can use figs. I've never actually tried pureeing them like date paste, but I'm sure it would work.   I've also done that with raisins, and it worked well, but mostly I don't bake, or I use mashed bananas in baking.


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Hi, a friend of mine sent me an article by Dr. Oz talking about the danger of agave syrup... that it could actually increase insulin resistance as well as lead to weight gain.
http://blog.doctoroz.com/dr-oz-blog/agave-why-we-were-wrong

Is there any reason to be alarmed as Dr. Oz has been?



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I wouldn't touch the stuff. I have heard for years how polluted it is, even organic. Nothing to back it up but I am sure it could cause insulin resistance and weight gain. It's a SUGAR. And that's what sugars do best


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Hi, a friend of mine sent me an article by Dr. Oz talking about the danger of agave syrup... that it could actually increase insulin resistance as well as lead to weight gain.
http://blog.doctoroz.com/dr-oz-blog/agave-why-we-were-wrong

Is there any reason to be alarmed as Dr. Oz has been?


Great link - thanks for sharing it.  Let's face it; sugar is bad for us in all its forms - even honey.   I do understand the sweet tooth thing - I have a sweet tooth too, but I eat sweets infrequently.  I find them addictive - the more I eat, the more I want.

I don't know anything about vegetable glycerin but here is a good, well rounded article on it.  

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/healthy-eating/is-glycerin-a-healthy-sweetener
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balletomane,
read Dr D's response on the first page of this old thread  

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GC/m-1259371578/s-0/#num7


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Not sure about insulin spikes as I cannot meter that but it most definatley causes bs spikes. That said, one would need the insulin spike to lower the blood sugar. And let's be real, it's liquid sugar


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Quoted from rosa
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread as there is still controversy regarding agave

Is there any suitable 'sweetener' for all or most blood types? I veer between using stevia and agave...still cannot make up my mind which is best to soothe my sweet=tooth!

My  favourite chocolate indulgence is a a brand that uses coconut nectar which is verrry verrry nice, however it is just an occasional treat .
I bought some Unibars recently and see the first ingredient is agave....

Are there any recent updates on agave from Dr. D??
Hi, rosa. I see from your avatar that you're a Gatherer, which means (according to The GenoType Diet) that Stevia is a Superfood for you, while agave syrup is a Neutral. All we can advise - if you're following Dr. D'Adamo's recommendations on this, and his finding (shared by our lovely Lola) that it's benign (indeed for us Nomads it's -along with Honey- a diamond Superfood) - is that you stay on your diet and use each according to your taste/judgment/responses.
Keep feeling well!  



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Hi, rosa. I see from your avatar that you're a Gatherer, which means (according to The GenoType Diet) that Stevia is a Superfood for you, while agave syrup is a Neutral. All we can advise - if you're following Dr. D'Adamo's recommendations on this, and his finding (shared by our lovely Lola) that it's benign (indeed for us Nomads it's -along with Honey- a diamond Superfood) - is that you stay on your diet and use each according to your taste/judgment/responses.
Keep feeling well!  



rosa has a personal SWAMI, so the food ratings you share may be different on her SMAMI.  Mine are certainly different from the book and no two SWAMIs are alike.
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I feel great after consuming agave compared to white sugar, feels like clean burning energy, and even better than honey, which i also do well with.  My wife is an O gatherer and favors stevia, her nutritionist recommended it for her after reviewing her labs and it also happens to be a gatherer superfood sweetener, whereas stevia gives me a mild headache.  I am very glad because she had been using splenda before, and she had begun drinking coffee regularly and it was really effecting her negatively.  She stopped drinking coffee, she has been diagnosed with hashimotos and low thyroid function.  
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Thanks everyone for your input. Thanks, Lola, for the reminder of Dr. D's reply. I did read it and find it very useful. Since the article I pointed to is dated later, I just want to see if there has been anything new re: people experience and what's available in the market (qualitywise). I am sure that if people consume sweet things in moderation based on their type, there shouldn't be any problems



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