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Vivian |
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Thanks Lola for your info on SWAMI Express...I'm going to get on that right away. |
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 have you already read the GTD book? that should definitely come first..... it has all the data you need to input into swami, and shows how to do it |
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Yes...I have read the BTD Book, I have the Cook for your type & a cool nutrition guide. I have made some adjustments to my diet already...no more pork, rarely eat beef, try to increase alkaline intake of foods, no more coffee, etc., but am about 95 lbs. overweight, low energy. Some of the other changes (breads, cereals, etc.) are harder for me. I am attempting to refocus and have gone to the forum for the first time to get support & re-energize my resolve. I need help organizing...meal plans, grocery lists, recipies, good substitutions for the Avoid things I eat now...I also want help in determining my genotype. I tried the kit but got flustered... Lots going on here...thanks. |
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Yes...I have read the BTD Book, I have the Cook for your type & a cool nutrition guide. I have made some adjustments to my diet already...no more pork, rarely eat beef, try to increase alkaline intake of foods, no more coffee, etc., but am about 95 lbs. overweight, low energy. Some of the other changes (breads, cereals, etc.) are harder for me. I am attempting to refocus and have gone to the forum for the first time to get support & re-energize my resolve. I need help organizing...meal plans, grocery lists, recipies, good substitutions for the Avoid things I eat now...I also want help in determining my genotype. I tried the kit but got flustered... Lots going on here...thanks.
Post your measurement conclusions (index vs ring finger lengths; torso vs height; leg differences... etc., and I'm sure one of the GTD experts will help you. |
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| Monday, December 27, 2010, 12:58am |
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Thanks KimonoKat. I will do that.  |
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| Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:02am |
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Hi Lola. I realize now that in your previous post you were asking me if I had read the GTD. I read too fast & thought you were asking me about the BTD.  To answer you correctly, I have not read the GTD, but will follow through with doing so. It seems that there is alot more information there. I'll also work on getting a SWAMI as soon as I can. Thank you. |
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Yes...I have read the BTD Book, I have the Cook for your type & a cool nutrition guide. I have made some adjustments to my diet already...no more pork, rarely eat beef, try to increase alkaline intake of foods, no more coffee, etc.
Just wondering why you gave up coffee after reading Dr. D'Adamo's Blood Type guidelines for type A.  He highly recommends it for A in those books. Why not include a bit of coffee in the morning? Many say a little goes a long way toward helping with weight loss, too!  |
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I am late in this discussion.. so take it for what it is.. I am not even addressing the item you are discussing..
I am just saying Neutrals for me are problematic.. AVOIDS are unthinkable.. as they make me react: make me miserable, water retentive, sluggish, just for starters..
so its all in the testing.. after 3 days you will know what is good or not for any item under consideration. REMEMBER a baby aspirin is very small but powerful ! so any food ?? a little may go a long way..
I recently added a comby item with 4 neutral ingredients and got sick with it, gained weigt, and got real puffy.. then separated each item, one of them has since become a super food while the others are not on my list any more..
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| Monday, December 27, 2010, 3:37am |
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I am late in this discussion.. so take it for what it is.. I am not even addressing the item you are discussing..
I am just saying Neutrals for me are problematic.. REMEMBER a baby aspirin is very small but powerful ! so any food ?? a little may go a long way..
I recently added a comby item with 4 neutral ingredients and got sick with it, gained weigt, and got real puffy.. then separated each item, one of them has since become a super food while the others are not on my list any more..
For my part, I've never encouraged anyone to be afraid of Neutrals. Dr. D'Adamo's books certainly do not espouse such an approach, nor encourage such an apprehension. I'm very sure that if he wanted his millions of readers to be afraid/wary of neutrals, he'd do so. There are ways to follow Dr. D'Adamo's ACTUAL guidelines and live a normal life, dietwise. We don't have to make it harder for newbies to try it than it has to be. I welcome his readers to enjoy food, to enjoy eating, to gradually take on Beneficials and drop Avoids, just exactly as he does.  That's just me. My philosophy in following Dr. D'Adamo's work is exactly HIS. Look up a few posts and see my most recent one, just ahead of this one by a few minutes. My best advice is that of Lola, who even quotes Dr. D'Adamo in her signature: "Just Follow The Book"!!! Yay Lola!  |
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I did a search on the boards and found the information listed in the Type Base, but I'm still confused on what the effects of eating carageenan are to the various blood types. I know what it says in the type base, but I don't "understand" the language. Type A (S/NS): AVOID: Contains lectin or other agglutinin. Metabolic inhibitor. Type B (S/NS): AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins. Metabolic inhibitor. Type AB (S/NS): AVOID: Increases polyamine or indican levels. Type O (S/NS): AVOID: Contains component which can modify known disease susceptibility. I was at a new cafe in town yesterday and met a DOM (Doctor of Oriental Medicine) who was telling me that soy is bad for "women", and is convinced that alternative milks (hemp, almond, rice) sold at health food stores are "healthy". I suggested that she read labels and avoid carageenan. She asked me why, and I honestly couldn't tell her. I personally avoid it, but I don't feel I have enough "layman" understanding of why something that is an avoid for all blood types (translation: everyone) is in so many "healthy" foods. I'm hoping that someone can explain in "layman's terms" why carageenan should be avoided. If I ever see this woman again, I can give her a better explanation. Also, the woman who runs the cafe (who is a former ND  ) offers soy, rice, and almond milk with carageenan as an alternatives to cow's milk. |
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Layman's terms: I avoid products containing Caragenaan because it gives me headaches.
Incidentally, If I have not consumed caragenaan for a while, I can consume a product without feeling an affect. Product might be: A cup of hazelnut milk or a cup of rice ice cream.
But if I consume non dairy milk with caragenaan every day for a week I have lots of headaches. I do fine with non dairy milks without additives. |
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Thanks C#, but I'm looking for information that I can disseminate to "non BTD-ers". Carageenan doesn't appear as any symptom for me, but I avoid it anyway. I just want to know how to explain "why" it's not good to consume. I don't understand what a "metabolic inhibitor" is and why it's bad. It sounds bad, but it's a lot easier to convince me (I've been happy following this food plan for more than 15 years) but not as easy to explain to others (in my experience). |
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Thank you, Lola. That link helped a lot. |
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I decided to do a search of carageenan as if I was an advocator...here's what I found: carageenan is used in place of pro-biotics to thicken foods so that they have a longer shelf life...that's it; pro-biotics break down over time, carageenan does not. There is no added benefit to the consumer, only to the producer. I should have known...Makes me crazy, yet, empowered to continue my course of eating "whole" foods. Just because a "health" store offers a product that contains carageenan, doesn't make carageenan "healthy". Grr. It's all marketing, and one of my best friends is a "marketer". I'll prevail.  (Apparently, that's important to me  ). |
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Stabilizers do not rot (as quickly). You want to consume food that needs to be fresh - because that is where the nutrition is. Stabilizers are not food. Extenders and stretchers are used to give you less nutrition per weight of food. Weight is easily gauged, but nutrition is not.
The philosophical issue comes from people wanting something (more) for nothing (more). Life does not work that way. When we try to get something for nothing there is a price to be paid that can not always be predicted. We are all caught up in this - our whole society is part of the web. |
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Carrageenan enhances the effects that other food lectins have on the body. Carrageenan is highly toxic for our bodies, being a carcinogen & mutagen....therefore is banned in countries excluding the USA & Japan. We should not be using this product at all!! |
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-snip- The philosophical issue comes from people wanting something (more) for nothing (more). Life does not work that way. When we try to get something for nothing there is a price to be paid that can not always be predicted. We are all caught up in this - our whole society is part of the web.
Paul, this is perfect. I just wanted to quote it for emphasis. |
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| Sunday, January 9, 2011, 2:15am |
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Wasn't there just another thread on Carrageenan? Can they be merged?  |
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Aaaah one of the supposedly "top herbalists" in NZ has carrageenan in all his products & most of them are orally administered  |
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I recently discovered the evils of cargeenan from a friend who overcame leukemia. We were talking about healthy lifestyles and she warned me about it when I mentioned that I used coconut milk beverage in place of regular dairy. I took all my unused containers back to Whole Foods. I must have read almost all of the products in the aisle and refrigerated section. I only found Silk Almond milk in the refrigerated section and Wholes Foods 365 brand of unsweetened almond milk in the cartons. I don't use it often, but I do use it in recipes from time to time when they call for milk. I do not mix dairy products with milk products.
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share all the evils you know....we might learn something new  |
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