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Kind of intersting
O types 31 drinkers vs 16 no
A 22 drinkers vs 11 no
B 13 drinkers vs 1 no
AB 3 drinkers vs no
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Alcoholism runs strongly in my family, so I stay away from the stuff myself. I've seen what alcoholism does to people and families and it is not worth flirting with that for me. That said, I do love red wine, sherry and my all time fave, gin and tonic. *sigh* Still, I don't miss 'em enough to risk tripping the family gene and, to use Dr. D.'s maaaaahvelous "town hall" metaphor, allowing it to get all vociferous and controlling at the town hall. Currently, it is sleeping peacefully in a back pew and I want to keep it that way.
I'm a non-secretor and there is apparently a link between nonniehood and alcoholism. I'll bet all the family members of mine who are or were (and I say "were" because of death, not because anyone who is an alcoholic can ever put that into past tense status in life; you can only be in "recovery", never "recovered") alcoholics also sport the non-secretor gene.
I tend to agree with you. I'm not perfect, tho. On New Years Day I was (totally unexpectedly) given a FREE bottle of chamapgne to take home with me, unopened.....and silly Nonnie me, I drank the whole bottle at once. Mildly intoxicated, but recovered the next day with no headaches...YET...the stupid Explorer liver told me "hey you are allowed grapes now so Champagne is healthy for you....got any more?" See, my liver processes it too slow! It's not that I crave alchohol. I can process it.....but very slow.
I knew damn good and well not to repeat this. I missed a whole kickball game I was supposed to play in and the champagne gave me the illusion of "thinking that I was having a good time enjoying kickball" when I wasn't even at the game...only thinking about playing it. Bizzare! !
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I think it'd be a good idea to run a poll that distinguishes between the enjoyment of wine/beer with food, and the "use of alcohol".
Admittedly the individuals who are downing a bottle of wine alone and getting plastered, or even the people for whom spirits ("hard liquor") are a regular part of their lifestyle, constitute a very different population from that which customarily accompanies meals with wine or beer where others may opt for soft drinks.
I find it hard to distinguish, by bloodtype, the French population, for instance. Wine and beer are, simply, normally, drunk in many parts of the world without being thought of as "resorting to alcohol", for instance. The "teetotaler" is not prevalent there. There was no "Prohibition" movement there.
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I agree, San j. I was raised in a family that had wine with their meals. Most meals, but not all of them. Sometimes everyone had a glass and sometimes only one or 2 had a glass. It was always part of the joy of family together eating and socializing. I did have an Uncle who enjoyed his brandy often, , and 2 great Aunts that made dandelion wine. A few of my cousins on both sides of my family are "wine snobs" and the rest enjoy a drink before or after dinner. No alcoholics. I may have a glass of wine with weekend dinners if I don't need to drive. (Safety first) When we visit my Dad at his river house for a weekend I will enjoy his collection, bien sur!!!!! But again, no driving involved. Its always fun, food and wine but no one over indulges. I think we all want to keep control!
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I agree, San j. I was raised in a family that had wine with their meals. Most meals, but not all of them. Sometimes everyone had a glass and sometimes only one or 2 had a glass. It was always part of the joy of family together eating and socializing.
"It was always part of the joy of family together and socializing." I dunno. When I lived in Paris - and maybe even before that? - a glass of wine was just what you drank with food, whether that was a sandwich or a multi-course meal. It had nothing to do with adding conviviality, with elevating anyone's mood. What do you drink with bread and cheese in mid-afternoon? A glass of wine. It's a cultural thing. And a single glass of wine has never made me tipsy, though I'm aware it has that effect on others.
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I rarely drink more than a single glass of wine and would certainly have it at any meal. Wine is just another food on our family table....and my family "celebrates" with the gathering, preparing and sharing of their meals together. Some of us look forward to the main course, others to the freshest vegetable found that day and then there are the desserts......Its all part of "one". I am sooo missing my Granmere right now. She was the heart....and best cook of the family.
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Was just reading a study about cardio-health and regular wine consumption. People who eat a great deal of cheese maintain excellent cardio health and normal weight by having one or two glasses of wine per day, it seems. The numbers were also good for people who consume much oil - including olive oil. I believe it was a French study, in fact.
This is why it shouldn't be surprising that those whose diets include more animal-sourced fats (O's/B's) would find themselves reaching for wine to accompany them. This explains, in part, their ability to metabolize those fats in a healthy way.
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Was just reading a study about cardio-health and regular wine consumption. People who eat a great deal of cheese maintain excellent cardio health and normal weight by having one or two glasses of wine per day, it seems. The numbers were also good for people who consume much oil - including olive oil. I believe it was a French study, in fact.
This is why it shouldn't be surprising that those whose diets include more animal-sourced fats (O's/B's) would find themselves reaching for wine to accompany them. This explains, in part, their ability to metabolize those fats in a healthy way.
Interesting
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I think it'd be a good idea to run a poll that distinguishes between the enjoyment of wine/beer with food, and the "use of alcohol".
I agree
My sister and I are both B´s We both enjoy wine (and maybe a cold beer in summer) we never drink a lot - but enjoys 1-2 glasses a day in the weekend- wen I cook I might stat on aglass- and then drink another with my dinner. My mum and stepdfather boths O´s tend to drink too much( not alchoholics but still) - they use alchohol to relieve stress. - really strange imo.
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My mum and stepdfather boths O´s tend to drink too much( not alchoholics but still) - they use alchohol to relieve stress. - really strange imo.
I don't know what it must feel like to have experienced a long lifetime of O's tension / intensity that calls for regular healthy discharge through sport or other exercise. My guess is that - in those who do not know to handle it rightly - it can breed habits of finding chemical fixes? Remember that Dr. D says Os have a somewhat higher tendency to depression, too. Self-treatment of a sort?
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hmmm, yeah. Example, yesterday: a family party in the daytime with lot of wine opened on the buffet and lots of food cooked by my daughter in law......I drank glass after glass of wine, cruising the buffet for something I could eat....nada! there were potstickers, deepfried chickenwings, etc. all with gluten...all, all all.....I ate a couple meatballs, but.....drank too much with too little food... I didn't feel so good later......took B-complex, C, and NAC and went to bed. Feel fine today...
I don't know what it must feel like to have experienced a long lifetime of O's tension / intensity that calls for regular healthy discharge through sport or other exercise. My guess is that - in those who do not know to handle it rightly - it can breed habits of finding chemical fixes? Remember that Dr. D says Os have a somewhat higher tendency to depression, too. Self-treatment of a sort?
Well I know for sure that both of them are not getting enough exersise
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I just had another insight into these data. Henriette is intrigued by the fact that 1/3 of both O and A responders are teetotalers, while only ONE of the 13 Bs who responded is a teetotaler. Her question is, really, why are the majority-types likely to abstain?
There are any number of possible answers to this, but right now it occurs to me that both O and A, when "dadamo compliant", are already likely to be abstinent when it comes to certain major food groups. Maybe they've given up dairy altogether. Maybe they've given up wheat. Maybe they've given up meat, or even all animal foods. As for Bs, we are the "omnivores" and need avoid no food group at all. So, if compliant BTD'ers are answering, this can account for less extremeness of habits, more easygoing moderation, with regard to what we ingest. "Balance," as Dr. D says.
I think the personality factor can figure in, too, speaking of easy-goingness, a trait for which Bs are often noted.
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Maybe you are right abouut the B´s I do think it is interesting differnce.
- btw I also think it is a cultured thing In Europe my guess is you´ll find less people that abstain from alcohol - not that we are drunk all the tie - but we just have a rather long history with alcohol.
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As a B BTD'er since 1996/7, I didn't drink beer: It is a B Neutral on the BTD. In all my life I didn't drink beer. After a tennis match on a very hot day in 1998 or so, I discovered cold beer's refreshing character and re-mineralizing properties, but - even so - I didn't buy beer or order it away from the court. Frankly, I didn't cultivate a taste for it.
Then, in 2008, I read Dr. D'Adamo's book, The Genotype Diet and typed myself as a Nomad. At that point, I decided to try beer, since it is a diamond Superfood for Nomads. And, indeed, I found it filling and satisfying, and that it didn't cause me to gain weight.
Now I drink anywhere from 0 to 3 beers a week - probably annually averaging about 50? Going stretches without it and then, when I have one, thinking, "This is great! Why did I forget about this again?"
Just wanted to clarify that "B's" aren't all allowed beer, per The Genotype Diet. It's only the Nomads, I think? Someone correct me, but I think that's right.
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Four bourbon and cokes each friday night. 2 for each half of the football.
Generally always regret it in the morning.
In the non-football season I'd be lucky to have one drink a month and that would more than likely be a glass of wine. I don't know why the football brings out the bourbon drinker in me but I guess it has something to do with slinging off at the refs. .
I can't get drunk though. That kills me. I take days to recover from even the most mildly annebriated states. As it is now, saturday mornings run at a slightly slower pace than the rest of the week and that's with the bourbon being only about 5% alcohol. I'd be a mess if it was any stronger.
I really shouldn't drink at all but in winter, the friday night "wind down" is just too alluring. . One day I'll learn.
I wish those were good for my type (or any type at all for that matter)!!