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aprilshowers
Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Oh I was so reminded that God has a sense of humor this past weekend!  I headed out to a scrapbooking retreat on Friday afternoon with my cooler stocked for supplementing meals.  I've been to enough of these type of events to know that there is always something I can eat at every meal so I didn't bring total meals.  I figured I'd be eating more neutrals and a few avoids, but for a weekend away which happens infrequently I was OK with that.  The camp was located on an island so I didn't want to haul any more than I had to and I needed room for my albums and photos, etc!

I can't believe how much pork they served!  Friday dinner was pork tenderloin cooked in maple syrup and apples.  I had a teeny bit along with the rice and veggies which seemed OK.  Sat breakfast they served pork sausage and Sat dinner was HAM.  Then for Sunday breakfast they served Canadian bacon - good grief - it was a porkfest - OINK-OINK!  I wasn't the only one to notice either - found out Sat that our coordinator requested no chicken.  Now I know as an A I need to be avoiding meat as much as possible, but I know my tummy would have been happier with a little chicken or turkey as opposed to that pork tenderloin I had.  That was the only pork I ate but I've started adding flax to my diet and the combo of that with the pork Fri night wasn't pleasant.  

As a diabetic I've been taught to ask about meals being served when I'm at events I can't control and I tried before going on this one, but didn't get any feedback.  Now that I know the camp staff I can contact them myself about having some items I can eat around if I attend this event again.  It was very fun and such a beautiful location I would like to attend again - I'll just have to plan for meals much better.

I also do find it a little stressful to be the only one watching her food intake.  The usual mindset at these weekends aways is that anything goes, the diet goes out the door and it can tend to be a food orgy.  In between meals there was an abundant supply of snacks available.  I was only able to eat what I brought. There wasn't one single other item I could eat on the snack table.  I didn't feel deprived food-wise, but I did realize how very much we tend to pamper ourselves with food, and how poorly we do it!  Bags of chips, flavored popcorn, chocolate covered nuts and carmels, cookies, etc.  My additions to the snack table were a bag of nuts, some dried appricots and some honeycrisp apples.

My pampering included going to bed early each night, spending a couple of quiet hours by a crackling fire reading and then chatting with friends and taking two walks around the island finding lots of fall photos.  I don't enjoy going into a big long explanation about why I eat the way I do - I have an easy out when I explain I have diabetes and am trying to lose weight and get my cholesterol down.  Everyone understands those fairly well.  I don't enjoy being the center of attention and when I start in explaining about the BTD the few times I have it raises such controversy - I just wanted to avoid that this weekend, relax and enjoy myself as much as possible.  Maybe once I have the measureable results to share from my coming blood tests it will be easier to share why I'm doing this.


Type II diabetic following BTD for Type A secretor for diabetics.

We are what we repeatedly do.
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Victoria
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Unfortunately, it often seems that the only way to avoid a big discussion is to blame it on some kind of condition that we have.  The majority can comprehend changing one's diet when ordered by a doctor, and life is at stake.  However, they are unwilling to consider changing ones diet in order to avoid getting to that point in the first place.  

We live and learn!  We are responsible for having a back-up meal plan whenever we leave home!     I have ended up in similiar positions to the one you found yourself in.  You did the best you could under the circumstances!



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Debra+
Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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aprilshowers...nice to hear that you had a great weekend...even with all of the pork and other avoids flying around.  Proud of you for bringing your own foods so that you would not be completely sabotaging all of the health benefits you have worked hard for.  I, too, have learned that there is not very much to eat at outings like this...even when you think there could be.  That's why I was trying to tell you to bring your own.  At least then, you have it, even if you don't need it.

No chicken...how come?  Must be a B.   It is sad to think that people think pork is a much safer meat.  

I am the opposite of you.  I like to tell people about BTD and the benefits.  I can always tell when they are interested or not which helps me know when I can keep going with that conversation or keep quiet.

It sounds like you had a great weekend and I hope you get to go on another one.  How did the scrapbooking go?  I have a couple of friends who do this.  I don't have the patience for it.  

Debra


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aprilshowers
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Victoria - I know, it's so sad and then after reading your response I am reminded that I was one of those people who didn't want to change what or how I ate until I was faced with a medical condition myself.  I keep forgetting that!  I need to have more patience with people but it seems once I "get it", I want everyone else to get it too - and NOW!!

Debra - I have had some great discussions about the BTD with friends - mixed results mostly, but one is testing the waters a bit which is encouraging.  For health benefits - her husband is dealing with cancer.  I just could tell this wasn't the group to try and share the BTD with.

The scrapbooking was awesome!  We are a group of scrapbooking consultants so this weekend we got to work on our own album projects - much needed in my case.  I got 30 pages complete - yippee!


Type II diabetic following BTD for Type A secretor for diabetics.

We are what we repeatedly do.
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Aprilshowers,
This is one reason I am grateful to have tested as a non-secretor.  I also was one of those people who didn't want to give up my favorite lifestyle choices, even when they were hurting me.  When I realized that I was a nonnie and nonnies don't have the lee-way for messing around with our own health, I was finally motivated to take things seriously.  I dived right into 99% compliance and never looked back.
By then, I had already developed a few major health problems, and a couple were serious ones.



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Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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aprilshowers
Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 10:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Victoria - I FINALLY got my saliva sample taken and Fed Ex'd out the door today.  I'm very curious to find out my secretor status as there are some big differences between the two in the diabetes BTD book.

I took the little test on this website and learned that for me there is little difference between the benefits of the BTD and the GTD, so I decided to stick with the BTD for now.  I have the GTD book from the library now and will read it, but am sticking with what is working for me for now.


Type II diabetic following BTD for Type A secretor for diabetics.

We are what we repeatedly do.
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Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 11:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi Aprilshowers,

Wow that was a pork weekend! Glad you made it through unscathed and ready to move on with the BTD toward great health!  

  
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Victoria
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Sounds like a great plan, Aprilshowers.  I'm so glad you sent out your saliva sample!  It's such an important step, and even more for type A's because there are many subtypes for you guys.

You can make great progress working with an extremely compliant blood type program.  I love the BTD so much, even though I have been on the genotype diet for many months.  

I look forward to hearing your results.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
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Aprilshowers, even taking the dive into BTD-world is an improvement over the way you used to eat, no doubt, so don't beat yourself up.  Enjoy your new diet!


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

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After trying the GTD, I'm back to the BTD.  I go to a doctor that is prescribing supplements to help me deal with my health issues.  One large issue is a build up of metals.  The supplements he gives me help detox me.  I felt like when I was on the GTD and taking the supplements, I was detoxing TOO much TOO fast that I couldn't take it.  So I went back to BTD and I'm having an easier time with it.  It may mean that it's a slower process, but I feel like I'm on the up slope where before I couldn't tell.  I felt lousy.  If I get to the point that I can't afford the supplements or something, I think the GTD would be the way to go because it does seem to help detox.  

Plus, I'm having a hard time knowing exactly which GTD I am.  I think I have a good idea, but my leg measurements stumped me because they are so close.  And I didn't want to be wrong about it.


About your weekend, that is too much.  Pork, pork and pork.  I actually love it, but haven't ate it for like 2 years now.  Yeah, those things can be tough.  And it is hard to talk to people about it.  Especially when you are probably outnumbered.  I like to have it the other way.  My Mom and I tag team people that work with us.  They don't stand a chance.  My wife joins in too if she can.  I'm kind of teasing about that but for me, it's like being a Christian, there are times that throwing your pearls before swine comes into play.  Kind of a pun in this situation.  But you never know when you're going to meet someone who is open to it.  I agree that the majority of people don't want to change, but at the same time, it's like planting seeds.  I think at one point or another, a LOT of people go through health challenges that get them thinking.  If the Blood Type is on the mind for some reason at that point, it may click.  One on one is a better proposition for me though.  They can't attack back like a wolf pack.


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Quoted from JJR

About your weekend, that is too much.  Pork, pork and pork.  I actually love it, but haven't ate it for like 2 years now.  Yeah, those things can be tough.  And it is hard to talk to people about it.  Especially when you are probably outnumbered.  I like to have it the other way.  My Mom and I tag team people that work with us.  They don't stand a chance.  My wife joins in too if she can.  I'm kind of teasing about that but for me, it's like being a Christian, there are times that throwing your pearls before swine comes into play.  Kind of a pun in this situation.  But you never know when you're going to meet someone who is open to it.  I agree that the majority of people don't want to change, but at the same time, it's like planting seeds.  I think at one point or another, a LOT of people go through health challenges that get them thinking.  If the Blood Type is on the mind for some reason at that point, it may click.  One on one is a better proposition for me though.  They can't attack back like a wolf pack.


I never thought about it like that - it is like seed planting and I shouldn't pre-judge what kind of soil the seeds are falling on, should I?  Thanks for the reminder!


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We are what we repeatedly do.
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No problem!  Thank you for the message!  I like your chinese proverb!!!


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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ABYesway.....with the toxicity issues, could you be an explorer?
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That's what we decided my AB daughter is.  Wanna join her in the ranks, JJ?


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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I don't mind the diet at all for Explorer.  But I think my measurements put me nowhere near an explorer.  IMHO, after measuring countless times, having a BTD Practitioner do it also, and my wife, it's either Nomad or Teacher.  It's all in the uppper leg and lower leg.  The other stuff is a no brainer.  I'm pretty much off the charts Nomad for strength testing too.  But, the BTD has actually given me a good month of feeling pretty good.  Better than I had in a long while. Not perfect or totally healed but much better than I had been in a while.  Along with the Doctors supplements.  So, if it makes you feel good, I'm thinking it is probably a good thing.


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Glad to hear you are feeling better ABNoWay!

I too am hesitant to mention BTD to people, they look at me like I am nuts! Even my mom, drives me crazy(ok, I guess I am ), because she complains and complains about her aches and pains, then goes on to tell me about the "delicious pork tenderloin" she had for supper! Argh..... I say "well no wonder you are achey", and she replies, "but I love pork", to which I reply, "but it HATES you!". She just chooses not to 'get it'!


"Be as gentle as  possible, and as firm as necessary".   Tom Dorrance-the 'father' of natural horsemanship

How true, for life, parenting, horse and dog training!
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Dawgmama - that was me for years and year, I just chose not to get it until I developed diabetes.  Now it's all making sense and I keep praying it's not too late for me to be healthier in my 50s than I was in my 40s.  That's my main goal.  People's eyes kind of glaze over when I start talking BTD - I want to be a walking testimonial but even then, food just has so much power over people they don't want to hear.  I've mentioned that is another thread.  I still struggle with wanting to eat what I want instead of what's best for me.  I have a rebellious spirit and used food as my way of rebelling.



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Quoted from aprilshowers
I still struggle with wanting to eat what I want instead of what's best for me.  I have a rebellious spirit and used food as my way of rebelling.



I've always known about myself that I don't give up anything I want until I am forced to do it!     And I have indulged cravings all my life until one by one, I saw how they were damaging my health.  It wasn't about rebellion for me, just maintaining my own right to make my decisions;  Preserving my personal freedom, having personal power over my own life.

Strangely enough, that tendency has served me tremendously when it comes to compliance on the BTD or GTD.  My insistence on walking to the beat of my own drum has made me unwilling to be swayed by TV commercials, flashy advertising in stores, or public pressure and fads.

While it's true that I don't change my habits until I am forced to do so, once I really "get it" that something is hurting my health, nothing sways me in my new direction.  



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Strangely enough, that tendency has served me tremendously when it comes to compliance on the BTD or GTD.  My insistence on walking to the beat of my own drum has made me unwilling to be swayed by TV commercials, flashy advertising in stores, or public pressure and fads.



That's me too, Victoria.


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Quoted from Victoria
My insistence on walking to the beat of my own drum has made me unwilling to be swayed by TV commercials, flashy advertising in stores, or public pressure and fads.


Wow, I can really relate to what you said here.  I'm just like that!
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WHAT?????  You're a Gatherer?????????  Is that a Joke????????

What happened?????  Can you give all the details????


As far as eating habits go, I didn't have a problem delving into the diet.  But I felt awful.  And I was pretty certain it would help.  Before I got sick though, I ate pretty much anything.  And wouldn't have listened to anyone about changing.  Little Debbies tasted too good.  Hehehhehehe.


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Yep, so it seems.  I wrote about it in the "Lr4yt vs GTD" over in the GTD forum.
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Little Debbies tasted too good.  Hehehhehehe.


Aaaaaah.....Oatmeal cream.......


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Yep, so it seems.  I wrote about it in the "Lr4yt vs GTD" over in the GTD forum.


Well, I gotta check that out!!!!!!!!    


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Aaaaaah.....Oatmeal cream.......



Yeah, those ones are good.  A little too much icing though.  My favorite were the nutty bars.  Cold.  And those white chocolate ones were pretty good too, but even those usually made me feel kind of funky after eating them.  But they were so good.  


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