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BA1984
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I was wondering why btd has changed so much over the yearts from the 70 and 80s with James Dadamo and then its changed so much from late 90s to now with Peter dadamo. I was wanting some clarification please.
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brief answer is : research.  Apparently it is an evolving thing, as is science....
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if you comment on the changes, I suppose you have read the books, right?
which books have you read so far?
your answers are all there.
differences between books
your book ERFYT doesn t yet have the non secretor issue.
this appeared years later in LRFYT.....
try reading it after you ve read ERFYT, to understand BTD more.

There are inconsistencies between the different books. Why?



BTD FAQ is the entry to all the errata.

It is a hop and a jump to this page.

You might want to also read: Ask Doctor D'Adamo  - More Book Differences


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Pinto beans, leeks and mushrooms are good examples of lectin-containing foods with complex and mixed biological effects. Because knowledge of these relationships continues to expand (for example, the link between polyamine production and lectins was not understood well at the time of ER4YT) some begin to look better (mushrooms) while others begin to look worse (pinto beans). The added criteria of nonsecretor reaction have generated a yet higher level of refinement in the food value arena.
The Second Book (Live Right 4 Your Type) had secretor status
differences and a very small number of food value changes,
reflecting the advances in basic scientific knowledge.


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Some of us are following the Genotype diet, which came out in January of 2008.

It is actually refreshing to have someone willing to update their health information based on new research.

I work as a nurse and find that doctors are telling their patients the same information they told them 50 years ago.


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo

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I've read:

The Dadamo Diet by James Dadamo
Eat Right 4 Your Type by Peter Dadamo
LR$YT
ER4YBaby
hypoglycemia, diabetes, fatigue, & encyclopedia
Genotype diet
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great!


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I work as a nurse and find that doctors are telling their patients the same information they told them 50 years ago.


Working in medical also, I feel that some areas are more advanced than others. Oncology is barbaric! Orthopedics is amazing for joint replacment. Yes of course diet would play a big role in joint replacment but for those who follow a healthy diet and still have joint problems because they were born that way, like me, it's a godsend.  

Of course the reason that medicine isn't an exact science is because the preventive factor (ND's) is left out deliberately so doctors can make more money off of people.
And, when the masses finally realize this..there's going to be some yellin'
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Of course the reason that medicine isn't an exact science is because the preventive factor (ND's) is left out deliberately so doctors can make more money off of people.

Well now, I don't think it's left out deliberately.  There's just not enough incentive for Drs. to push for it.  Conventional practitioners are rather ignorant about preventative, naturalistic medicine, probably in part because it takes so much time to keep up with all the information on curative medicine.
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For all my 20 years as a nurse I hear the same thing, it takes too much time, it costs too much (whine whine)
Right now I am taking a survey of all the Cardiologists in the hospital, it is most scientifc I ask them what they tell a patient if he/she is very motivated to reduce cholesterol without medication.
One told me his practice does not make enough money to hire someone to help with that.

This is one of the top Cardiologists in the hospital, who makes plenty of money.

So I pull the curtain at my job and give the name of one of Peter's books. At least I feel like I have done something to help them on there way.




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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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So I pull the curtain at my job and give the name of one of Peter's books. At least I feel like I have done something to help them on there way.




Good for you!  I asked my doctor why, when I was told two years in a row that I was pre-diabetic, why I wasn't told specifically WHAT that meant!  I really wasn't, and so blissfully went on my merry way with no idea how truly awefully my eating habits were affecting my poor body.  

I was simply told that I was pre-diabetic and should lose some weight.  No info on what can happen with type II diabetes, all the major health issues that are a result of the epidemic of type II in our country.  Know what he said?  The insurance company won't pay for that type of education until AFTER the diagnosis of diabetes has been handed down.

And I got a good look at how most people handle that diagnosis at the diabetes classes I took at my local hospital.  "What!  I can't eat and drink like I used to?  Give me some more drugs, isn't there a pill to "fix" things so I can still eat what I want when I want in the mass quantities that got me in this shape to begin with?"  There were only two of us in those classes that were scared spitless and ready to make any changes necessary to improve our health.  Change my diet?  You bet, anything is better then possibly losing my vision, losing a limb due to poor circulation, heart disease or kidney dialysis.

I was appalled, and embarrassed at my own lack of knowledge - I used to think all those major health risks were only for type I diabetics.  I had my head in the sand and my doctor didn't help me much.  Now he wants to put me on cholesterol lowering drugs to get my LDL below 70 - the magic number he says for diabetics.  I'm determined to get it there without drugs - can't wait to get my blood test results in November!  

He is also blown away by how well I've managed my diabetes with no drugs, but the dietary and lifestyle changes I've made.  When I told him what I'm doing he just shook his head and said he wouldn't be able to do it!!


Type II diabetic following BTD for Type A secretor for diabetics.

We are what we repeatedly do.
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Yup most people just can't think about changing how they eat.


They simply do not understand the connection between food and their own bodies.

Aprilshowers I can't wait for your results too! It is so exciting.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I have a friend (type AB) who was recently declared "pre-diabetic", and asked me what she thinks she should start adding to her diet to help (less interest in what she should avoid at this point).  She isn't ready to go full-tilt into the BTD or GTD, so I asked her to keep a food journal for a week to see what her eating habits look like.  That will enable me to make some more relevant suggestions.

April, when were you first pre-diabetic?
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weew april a super statement and it's amazing how people are just *unwilling* to change anything, better to than to change....as you said, easier to get it fixed with a pill...
no ideas behind how dramatically big pharma manipulates people until death .....


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Quoted from TJ
I have a friend (type AB) who was recently declared "pre-diabetic", and asked me what she thinks she should start adding to her diet to help (less interest in what she should avoid at this point).  She isn't ready to go full-tilt into the BTD or GTD, so I asked her to keep a food journal for a week to see what her eating habits look like.  That will enable me to make some more relevant suggestions.

April, when were you first pre-diabetic?


It was 2004 during a physical.  I was diagnosed end of 2006 during an acute gall bladder attack that resulted in my having it removed - started me on the path to better health though, and I can't go back so am just going forward much better armed.

Something they didn't tell me when I was first diagnosed - all pre-diabetics eventually end up with diabetes...

As you said, it really isn't a matter of what to add, but what to delete - the empty carbs.  At the classes I took at the hopsital I learned how to count carbs, that was my first step in leading me to where I am today.  Soda and fruit juices are biggeys to delete right away.  Also all the "whites" - sugar, potatoes, bread, rice, and replace them with whole grains.  With those two changes she should see some major changes in her blood sugar levels.


Type II diabetic following BTD for Type A secretor for diabetics.

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would this also help with pcos and hypoglycemia?
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Well now, I don't think it's left out deliberately.  There's just not enough incentive for Drs. to push for it.


TJ, you have no idea what a money making business medicine has become. It's so obvious. You make money treating sick people! If they don't come to you to because they're healthy from a good diet and preventive medicine, like ND's provide, how would they make a living?  The whole way of treating patients would have to be changed to mostly educating them. I work in a medical school. They do not like any kind of change.
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hope you got the answer to my PM, BA1984.
by the way, I m Lola, what s your name?
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php?blog=25&s=PCOS&sentence=AND&submit=Search

good read on PCOS.....hope this helps this time around to convince you on the importance of following a low GI diet and lifestyle, as well as a low lectin one, to clear your cells off the insulin resistance they ve been through.


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I'm sorry, my name is Brenna, I've been on the board a while but something happened so I had to get a new gmail account and new username to use the forum again.
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Brenna, glad you got back in safe!


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Something they didn't tell me when I was first diagnosed - all pre-diabetics eventually end up with diabetes...


I better not get pre-diabetes then    I've been close on numerous occasions, though never again as close as I was in 1999, before BTD.  I got my triglycerides way down, as well as my fasting glucose, but it's still not as perfect as I'd like.  An an O-non Gatherer with a family history of type II, I should pretty much eat as if I already have it.  



Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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Welcome back in, Brenna!!  



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Thank you for the reminder that Live Right for your Blood Type is more current than ER4YBT.  I will read it too.  I love this diet.  I liked the GTD too, but this one seems more natural for my life style.  I just have to look on the food data base and see what is acceptable for me and that is all.  simple and good.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Something they didn't tell me when I was first diagnosed - all pre-diabetics eventually end up with diabetes...

I have my doubts about that.

Quoted from aprilshowers
As you said, it really isn't a matter of what to add, but what to delete - the empty carbs.

Yes, that's what I'm thinking, but I'm also trying to accommodate her interest as far as I can.  Still, I won't hesitate to recommend eliminating some things from her diet.

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You make money treating sick people! If they don't come to you to because they're healthy from a good diet and preventive medicine, like ND's provide, how would they make a living?

There will always be sick people, and MDs know it.  They have the very least reason of ANYONE to worry about job security or steady business.  A conspiracy to keep people sick just isn't necessary; just look at the way most people "take care" of themselves.  This is the simplest explanation, and the simplest explanation is usually the best:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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I work in a medical school. They do not like any kind of change.

Most people don't, and MDs are people, after all.
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Something they didn't tell me when I was first diagnosed - all pre-diabetics eventually end up with diabetes...


Their statistics are established by testing mainstream America.  Think of how most people eat, and do they change their eating habits when they find out they are pre-diabetic!  No, they don't.  And if they do, how effective are the changes.  BTD/Genotype approaches to disease and healing are revolutionary, and are not taken into account by M.D.'s in their prognosis to the patient.



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There will always be sick people, and MDs know it.  They have the very least reason of ANYONE to worry about job security or steady business.


Reminds me of a joke:

Why is an undertaker your best friend?

He's the last person to let you down!


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