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marmalade
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 4:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Guys,

OK I am getting so confused......the other night I had couscous and grilled chicken and was totally fine.

Few days later had a pasta (no tomatoes) and was totally fine.

Few days after that had another pasta with pesto and was as sick as a dog for days.

So no breads and cereals for a while but then had Ezekiel bread and am not feeling too good again.

What on earth is going on here?
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Gumby
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 4:36am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Maybe try to avoid the wheat competely, see if that helps.  I sure noticed a difference when i stopped eating it.  Well, I went gluten free, but you could try just wheat first and see if that helps.  


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marmalade
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 4:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am going nuts! (hahah, get it! Sorry bad joke)
For now I sticking to rice and we'll see how we go from there.
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Andrea AWsec
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 12:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Brown rice right?


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marmalade
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Oh yes, only brown rice.
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Sunday, September 21, 2008, 12:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Marmalade, have you ever had trouble with wheat before?
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Marmalade try Spelt Products is better than wheat!,
my son is A  nonnie and wheat and corn is not well to him...

Diana I love your signature is a fairy???


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Wheat is insidious it effects our gut lining.

Even if you can't feel it it is still occuring.

Eliminting it will only help your overall health.
Is this a hard thing to do? Yes but well worth the rewards to your overall health.

Keep looking at your lists of foods, if you can eat it for dinner you can eat it for breakfast.
(I had tempeh and green beans for breakfast this morning)

It takes 3-6 months for the gut lining to repair itself and turn over new cells.
At 3 months you will feel better, at 6 months you will notice changes in your body.





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Yes, Raquel it's a fairy. I love fairies..fantasy creatures.. I collect them. I even have the Travelocity Gnome.   This one in my signature is particularly nice because she's also in my favorite color purple/lavender.

I was trying to ascertain whether marmalade has had trouble with wheat before. Her problem could only be a touch of food poisoning. Wheat doesn't bother everyone...I thought I had a wheat problem but Dr. D didn't agree. He's right, as usual..
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Even avoidance for a period I think will help her gut lining. (my opinion of course )


Also if you eat store bought breads it may be the things that are added to the breads. Like gums and such, that cause problems.


Sometimes we eat wheat products instead of other things.
Remember empty calories from when we were kids in school,
as adults we do this too.


  


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Yes, have had trouble with wheat before...just seems it is getting worse and worse lately. Like my body has been ill from it for a long time but not until now has it finally said "enough"
Not food poisoning.....I have had that many times living here in Asia and I can tell the difference right away. No I think it is just my body having had enough of the wheat....or the gluten??
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I gave up gluten and noticed some improvement...not tons, but I have many white lines so I thought it would be a good thing to try.  Then, after a couple of months I ate a tiny bit of gluten once...hm, no problem.  Then I got a bit carried away at a party, ate more than a tiny bit...and THEN I knew that giving up gluten had been a very good idea!   It isn't horrible, but I sure do feel it.  

Another excellent grain for you to try which is gluten free is quinoa.  It is very tasty, super easy to prepare, and has much more protein than rice so it is a bit more substantial when eating with veggies.  (superfood for all three type A genotype possibilities too, so you can't really go wrong  )


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Yes, have had trouble with wheat before...just seems it is getting worse and worse lately. Not food poisoning..


Ok. Then that answers that question.   I was having insane acid reflux which I thought was from wheat because I'd get it when I'd eat wheat. Turned out that it was my SAD diet. When I switched to the GTD, the acid reflux all but stopped, unless I would mix wine with something spicey hot, like, horseradish which is a neutral for me.

I had an Enterolab test done showing mild celiac (79) and I showed Dr. D the results. He felt that the test was flawed. The test compares a scale of 0-500. 0 being no celiac and 500 being severe. Dr. D's reaction was the result of 79 as compared to what?. What is the model of what the numbers are equal too?  Enterolab, never said what the scale was comparing. Or, at least I didn't see any..

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Quoted from Gumby
I gave up gluten and noticed some improvement...not tons, but I have many white lines so I thought it would be a good thing to try.



Gumby, how are your white lines? Have you checked them lately?
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Could it have been something in the pesto that upset your system?


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Gluten sensitivities can gradually develop even if there is no Celiac disease.  A person might be able to eat wheat occasionally and beyond a certain quantity, Whammo!  Or sometimes it might be tolerated and if the body is weak, inflammed or dealing with a lot of things, it can make one sick.

Many of us have given up gluten, simply because we feel so much better without it, even if our diets say that we are able to eat it in moderation.  



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pré-menopsys  ....

justamente being a nonie..juhuuu another fiesta to welcome ya    ....yyeaaa....

renifle..renifle.... hhmm A2nonnie....


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Could it be a delayed reaction?  For my slow metabolism it could take a day or two to react to something.  It takes DH with his hummingbird metabolism a matter of minutes or hours to react to something.  Maybe you ate something (chicken? It's a no-no if you're a Warrior) and it took that long to make you feel bad.


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Marm, was there cilantro in the pesto?  Cilantro is a potent detoxifier, encouraging tissues to release stored toxins into circulation so they can be carried out of the body.
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marmalade,
on wheat and it s prime component, WGA....
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/convert3/config.pl?read=170
a post on lectins in general, good and bad!!
enjoy!


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I think it may be enriched pasta or your secretor status.
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What are the white lines Gumby speaks of??

No, in the pesto there was no cilantro......and I started to bloat up and feel tight and uncomfortable about 30 mins after the dish. I have eaten the pesto many times before with no issues. I suspect I had eaten too much wheat in too short a time frame and it was enough to tip me over.....so I am cutting back now in a BIG way!
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marmalade
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OH NO.......guys, you should see my white lines. I have them ALL OVER every finger pad. Yikes. I knew it.

I need an idea for gluten free stir fry sauce.....and any other gluten free ideas for sauces please. Maybe I should start a new thread for this?

I just looked at the gluten syndrome.net site and wow, I tell you.....I have SO MANY of the symptoms of a gluten intolerance.

I am going totally GF now. For all you out there who are also GF, please give me ALL your tips because I need them right now...........
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any gluten free grain flour will work to thicken up your sauces.


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