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marmalade
Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 1:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi everyone,

I don't know my secretor status. I asked the Dr today if I can have a test done for it here in Hong Kong but she said she didn't know of one. Is it still worth doing this diet? Do I really need to know the secretor status if I want this to work for me?  
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Absolutely!  I did the B secretor diet for a couple of months, and it was a great help.  Once I learned I was a nonnie, I changed over to the B-nonnie diet and saw even more improvements, but secretor status is just a refinement, compared to eating right for just your blood type.
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marmalade, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!  

Yes, eating right for your A blood type is still worth it, even not knowing your secretor status. Definitely.  

If you don't have a lot of health issues, assume you are a secretor and eat as one. If you have issues creeping in, switch to non-secretor and give that a try. Pay close attention to how foods are reacting in your body. Keeping a food journal would be really helpful also. Until you can find a way to get the secretor test done, you'll just have to do the best you can. We will all be here to help you along the way.



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marmalade
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Hi there guys! OK what do you think about this.......the only health issues I have are digestive problems such as bloating, pain and alot of gas from certain foods like dairy and sometimes (but not so much) wheat. I have not had a cold or a flu in 3 years (touch wood) nor any other major issues. Would you still assume I am a non secretor? I thought with the digestive issues I'd be a nonnie?

What are everyone's gut feeling on this?  
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marmalade
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Oh me again! I feel I am eating too many grains....worried the weight is going to pile on again.

Today was oatmeal for breaky, two rice cakes with peanut butter for a snack and also a ginger/ginseng tea. 3 almonds in the afternoon and then a slice of gluten free bread with nothing on it. Dinner was brown rice, chook, and steamed vegies. And an apple. Oh and a peppermint tea.

Can anyone tweak the lunch and snacks for me??  Worried there is not enough variety and nutrients in there.

BTW, this is only my first full day on the BTD and I am trying so hard to get used to it but I am already struggling!
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What is the best way to find out if we are a NS or S status I'm also A. I've taken Biology and this isn't a term I'm familiar with and I'm not really sure exactly what it means. Anyone ?

Thank you

Holly
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I would try and get some protein in for breakfast.  an egg, some fish...something like that.  If you want to skip the morning grain, you can have veggies with it instead of grains.  add some carrots with your almonds for your snack.  Or for your morning snack, eat your PB as a dip for some raw veggies.  

Give yourself time to get in a groove with it.  Just KNOW that you are doing well and that you will get better and better at it...don't beat yourself up!  The less us As stress ourselves out, the better!


Embracing my A-ness! (Ok, that is waaaay better in print than it is out loud! )

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marmalade
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Gumby!  - ! There is that 'A' personality shining through again! Can't help it, fret, fret  

It is so uncanny you mention the word 'groove' I just said to DH "I really just need to get into a groove here" and then I read your post!

Yes, tomorrow I will try again. Day 2. Must get in more fruit and protein.....not as many carbs. Shame as that is my fave..

What is your fave sweet snack? dried fruit seems to be a fave.

Thanks for your suggestions. And Holly, I am sorry but as you can see, I have no idea about the secretor thing either but hopefully others will help you.
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Thanks and good luck, I'm on my second week and feel so much better, lots of fruit and veggies. No more red meat. I'm learning to cook all over again it seems but I'm enjoying it. Although the grocery store takes hours now, but soon I hope to get it all nailed down so I can move through easier.
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! I was in the store all day too
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Quoted from marmalade
...the only health issues I have are digestive problems such as bloating, pain and alot of gas from certain foods like dairy and sometimes (but not so much) wheat.


odds are good you are a secretor, but hopefully you'll be able to find a way to get the test done.

re: your day's meal........I agree w/ Gumby to try and get more protein in. the only protein I saw was peanut butter and you'd prob do well w/ more of a dif variety as well.

and yes, don't fret too much.   it takes time if you're doing it slowly. I went cold turkey, but that only lasted 3 mths. However, I thank God he gave me the strength to do that. It proved to me what the wrong kinds of food can do to your system and body. Not a pretty thing.    do you have any of the books or are you familiar w/ Typebase4 here on the website. You can check any of the tested foods to see where they stand for you. There are tons of foods that have been tested, so you'll have lots of variety.

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... Although the grocery store takes hours now, .


isn't that the truth.    so much junk in everything.  

anyway, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!  

Here is a page of several articles on this site that will explain S and NS. Happy reading!! http://www.google.com/custom?q.....itesearch=dadamo.com



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For As, the biggies are to avoid dairy & red meat. If you can get that going, the rest will come.
Secretor means that your blood type also shows up in other body fluids, like sweat, spit, urine?, etc. That is 80-85% of the population.  Non-secretor means it doesn't show up.
You will see more 'nonnies' on here as apparently they/we have more issues.
I still haven't taken the test, but found the 'nonnie' diet was better. Now I am doing the genotype diet & have had to give up a few favorites, like avocados.
Welcome aboard! You will love it here!!
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Hi Ladies and welcome to you both! Great to have more sista's here!    

If you get the GenoType Diet book you can go onto the GenoType Diet website for a free week and determine your GenoType.
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Quoted from marmalade
Hi there guys! OK what do you think about this.......the only health issues I have are digestive problems such as bloating, pain and alot of gas from certain foods like dairy and sometimes (but not so much) wheat. I have not had a cold or a flu in 3 years (touch wood) nor any other major issues. Would you still assume I am a non secretor? I thought with the digestive issues I'd be a nonnie?

What are everyone's gut feeling on this?  
My gut feeling is "you never can tell". I had no digestive issues prior to the diet and haven't had a cold or flu in 6 or 7 years. The only health concern I had/have is severe hayfever for 6-8 weeks a year. I thought for sure I was a secretor until my test results showed otherwise.



I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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Hi there! So good to meet you all and can I say you have all been so wonderful and I am really blessed to have come across this forum.

I have never been one for red meat or dairy. My big issues now are trying to get some more variety in as I tend to go for the same old foods day after day.....it has to change. I need some more ideas for lunces and breakfasts. Dinners are OK and I think I have some good snacks now.

My genotype is a Teacher. However I am sticking to the BTD for now as I am confused enough on this one and need to get into a groove and figure out what on earth I am doing for now! Tomorrow is only day 2 for me.......so getting there slowly.....very slowly!
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Marmalade,
I think there must be a way for you to get the secretor test done in Hong Kong.  If you want to take the time for it, try pm'ing Accidental Chef, or Lola and asking what they know about sources.

Leoswench,
The secretor test is a saliva test that can be ordered from the Blood Type Store through this website.



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Even though I'm every bit a non-secretor, I saw amazing results on the secretor diet.  It was way closer to ideal that what I was eating before it, that's for sure.

It's important to find out, but you'll see benefits even without it.


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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Quoted from marmalade
Hi everyone,

I don't know my secretor status. I asked the Dr today if I can have a test done for it here in Hong Kong but she said she didn't know of one.  


I asked Lola if you can get your secretor status tested there, and here is her answer:

"Yes.  she could contact the distributors in Singapore!
they have a website.....
tell her to go to the nap store and look for international distributors..."

Hope this helps!



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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For As there are a lot of foods that secretors and non secretors can both eat.  I think it's important to know.  Sugar might be a neutral if your a secretor.
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Welcome to the family ladies

Like the rest I did the A sec diet at first and had good health improvement. learning I'm a non-secretor has helped even more.

So stick with it. There is a lot of help here and the rest of us will be here to support you and help when we can.


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Thank you. I have contacted the store about the test. Hope they get back to me soon........
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Same here.  I started out on the secretor diet and felt wonderful!  Almost all of my health problems went away.  I attribute this mostly to two things:  removing red meat from my diet and removing nightshades (tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplants) from my diet.  I was already wheat- and dairy-free.  After a while I found the website and learned about nonnies.  Everyone suggested I get my status checked so I did.  I honestly don't recall there being a huge difference for me when I changed to the nonnie diet.  In fact, I think it was more of "okay, here's where I'm supposed to be, and now what?" than anything else.  Then changing to the GenoType diet was a big help to me.


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