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medavida
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  A friend of mine (Blood type A) is selling Mangosteen juice that contains not only the fruit, but the skin as well, which contains Xanthones which are powerful anti-oxidant, anti-inflammatory, and immune system boosters.  

  I tried some of the juice (which also contained some avoids), and a few days later my histamine response went through the roof, my sinuses clogged up and bronicials swelled up, making it slightly difficult to breath and I was coughing phlem up...An MD told me it was allergies.  To be fair I was also travelling, (Tacom, Baltimore and the Poconos, the last location was a kids camp, which is where it hit me).

I was just wondering if anyone knows about this from a BTD or GTD perspective.  As far as I can tell there are no references for it in the type base food value or any of the books.

  This are the info links I was given:
http://www.mangosteentree.ca
http://www.thewholefruit.com    
http://www.xanthoneeducation.com  
http://www.pubmed.gov
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Two threads with mangosteen discussed:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1175363705/

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1182463750/

There may be more on the site if you search from the home page rather than from the forum.

As an aside, multi-level marketing raises other questions.
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Thanks Loyd

  Yes I does raise quesitons, whenever someone tries to get me involved with multi-level marketing my blood pressure goes throught the roof, all kinds of red flags go up.  However, if a friend is trying to make living at it, I try not to discourage them, unless I am sure it's a bad idea....
  That aside, I am glad I got confirmation that mangosteen is a bad idea for O's, otherwise I would not have had an explaination for my allergies going into overdrive.

  My friend is familiar with the blood type diet, I will pass the info on to her
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We just had a discussion about MLM here:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1219889445/


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I drink Mangosteen 100 from Genesis.  It comes in lightly sweetened and unsweetened, but the un tastes terrible.


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RedLilac, I take it that you do not have any trouble drinking it?
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Mangosteen, Mangostane, Mangoustanier, Mangostano {Garcinia mangostana - Clusiaceae}
St Johns Wort, Johanneskraut, Millepertuis commun,  {Hypericum sp - Clusiaceae} recently depending on system}

If you ever get your hands on the Fresh Fruit it won't let you down.
Closest Temperate relative is the St Johns Wort. Which is another strong medicinal.
Very possible, as its close cousins are being studied for affects with Ebola virus...

Do remember an old Thread where we discussed this fruit. However, other tropical fruits were discussed in same thread. Dr D said full of Lectins...now as to how it affects different BTD/GTDs who knows?

Just thinking though: When eaten fresh you don't eat the skin!! that could very well be the problem. As those particualar Xanthones:
"exposure to alpha-mangostin, a xanthone, could be toxic to mitochondrial function" {From English Wiki}
And of particualr importance the juice would most likely been from concentrate and/or pasteurizrd which would change the chemical structure of Xanthones etc...

Another cousin of Garcinia is/was used for the source of the chemical Gamboge.


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http://chetday.com/mangosteen.htm
Mangosteen has 43 Xanthones in comparison with
ST John's Wort which might contain one or
two Xanthones possibly a MAO (monoamine oxidase)  depressant
which O's should avoid.....


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Quoted from Lola
Mangosteen has 43 Xanthones in comparison..

Once again in the fruit or in the skin?
The Xanthones in the skin are the more critical ones in this situation. As for 43 which ones would be MAOIs?



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I would think the fruit......
Xanthones might be a word to google.......and find out....


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