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Where can you find vegetable glycerine? And is it safe for those of us with candida?
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it is safe, and it is usually in the cosmetic section of your WFS!
vegetable glycerine
http://www.harvesthealth.com/vegglyc16oz1.html
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?601
http://www.azurestandard.com/
NOW brand
http://iherb.com


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I have a hard time doing vegetable glycerin straight so I go with a vegetable glycerin/stevia combo whic I love:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=861&at=0

I've been buying this for a year and man... it's good and it takes only the smallest smallest amount.

It's half the price of regular stevia.

I buy alot from IHerb.com.  In fact I have some $5.00 off coupons they sent me if anyone is interested I can mail those out.  
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I buy it by the gallon from Azure Standard.  I think they deliver in California by truck, and by UPS.

Keep in mind that it is very sweet, so be careful not to overdo it...go for a subtle sweetness.  It's just fine for Candida, and balances blood sugar instead of spiking it.

It's perfect in breads, though in really sweet foods I prefer to mix it with other sweeteners.  It's also ideal for sweetening drinks.  It has no flavor, other than sweet, so sometimes I add a touch of molasses to my little serving bottle of glycerine (the molasses sinks to the bottom, but adds a tiny bit of flavor).


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Stevia is horrible

What about Agave Sirop and Candida?...

thanks...


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Agave will feed Candida, though it is a much better choice than the other real-sugar sweeteners.  (Veg. Glycerine is more like a sugar alcohol than a real sugar, albeit a digestible, naturally occuring in the body one, unlike the other sugar alcohols - sorbitol, malitol, etc.)


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Thanks Mellisa... so its better to do desserts with glicerine? ...but in Spain I only find Agave Sirup...


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I understand that xylitol, while a sugar alcohol, is naturally occurring in the body, and that it is partially digestible.

I am definitely going to have to get some of this vegetable glycerin to try!  Maybe it will be cheaper for its sweetness than the xylitol, which is about 1:1 with table sugar for its sweetness.
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I just started using it a few weeks ago.  We like it.  The ants don't.  The ants swarm all over the honey and agave containers (unless I clean them up very, very well and keep the lids tight), but they don't bother molasses or veg glycerin.


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What about taste (glicerine)????  because I made a cake whith Stevia and it was HORRIBLEEEEEEEEE ...


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I understand that xylitol, while a sugar alcohol, is naturally occurring in the body, and that it is partially digestible.

I am definitely going to have to get some of this vegetable glycerin to try!  Maybe it will be cheaper for its sweetness than the xylitol, which is about 1:1 with table sugar for its sweetness.


Oh yah... Vegi Glycerin is much cheaper than Xylitol!

And we all have personal opinions... Stevia in my book is not horrible. There are various types of Stevia.  Sweet Leaf is a wonderful brand.

You personally need to check it all out.  I find that having Agave, Stevia, Vegi Glycerine and Xylitol on hand for various types of cooking is what is needed as these different sweeteners affect each dish differently.  

Hubby loves homemade chocolate fudge with Vegi Glycerine, I can't stand it.  For me, I use Agave.  So it's different for everyone.  
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I love veg glycerin.  If I need something sweet, which is rare, thanks to my beloved diet, I mix ghee or coconut oil with veg glycerin and smear it on a rice cake.  Sometimes I add cocoa powder to the mix.

Stevia is bitter if you use too much, Raquel.  Try just a tiny bit.


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Stevia is bitter if you use too much, Raquel.  Try just a tiny bit.


I find that with Vegi Glycerin as well.. it gets to tasting almost chemical if I use too much.

As I mentioned previously, the NOW Stevia/Vegi Glycerin mixture is fabulous.
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Yes, in something really sweet, like cake or brownies, or just accidentally putting too much in something, it feels and tastes kind of weird.  Maybe that's because it's kind of an oil, so it lingers on your tastebuds differently?  

When I made brownies with v.gly., they seemed to be smoking, without burning, when I took them out of the oven, then tasted weird and dense.  It works fabulously in flax bread though, just a couple tablespoons improves the rising, taste, and texture of the bread.

It works better in adding subtle sweetness, go for less sweet than you're used to, and it tastes great.


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I use vegetable glycerine in cheesecakes all the time. I've also used it in Brighids carrot cake recipe though I use agave in the frosting.
I don't like things ultrasweet though...which is what a regular Betty Crocker cake taste like to me now.
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Yeah, I agree.  After you don't eat alot of sugar, everything tastes overly sweet that is normally sweet for other people.  I had some baked beans, like the canned kind, the other day, not alot mind you, and man I was like, I'm not eating too many of these because of all the sugar in them.  

I gotta try this vegetable glycerine stuff.


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Let me know how you like it ABnoway! I checked today at Vitamin
Shoppe and trader Joes but neither one had it. I figured not but since they were close I thought I'd try them first. Im sure Whole foods mkt or health food store will have it. Good luck!
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If I ever get up to my outpost, they probably have it.  But we've found a cheaper place to shop that has alot of organic stuff and I haven't been going to my HFS as much.  


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Does anyone know why Stevia is an "avoid" for most?  We love it here and all I've read about it is all good.  Any thoughts?
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I finally got a bottle of veg glycerine today.  I mixed some with my yogurt, and it was good!  I tasted some alone too, and the texture was funny (yes, oily is a good way to describe it), but I like the taste.  $5 for a 4 fluid oz. bottle isn't cheap though.  I'll look on the internet for more.
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Shanny, stevia makes my B husband feel horrible.  I don't know what it is about it, but he steers clear of it now.


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Wait a minute, this stuff is safe for candida????  I have to read those links Lola put up!!!!!  

Hey ribbit, by the way, my daughter saw a whole bunch of ants on our porch the other day, I sprinkled some black pepper on them, and within a couple of minutes a bunch of them weren't moving, and the next day they were completely gone.  And there were hundreds and hundreds of them.  That's a whole lot better than using some kind of chemical that in a spray bottle that I don't want to sniff!!!!!  Thank you for the tip!!!!

Sorry that was off topic!!


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You're welcome. I still use it in my kitchen.


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Well, I've been using this stuff for a few days now, and I'm pretty sure it's giving me headaches and making me feel icky overall.  Any ideas why?
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Your body doesn't like it?


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Well, don't use it then.   Sorry.  Try a smaller amount maybe?


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like how much are you using?


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I use less than one teaspoon at a sitting, and I only use it maybe twice a day, once for my yogurt and once for my oat bran.  I'm getting headaches, light-headedness, muscle weakness, no energy, and sudden hunger pains, much like before I started BTD.  It sounds like it's made of corn syrup!  I wish I had observed this connection sooner, but I didn't start off reacting this way.  Yeah, definitely not using this stuff again, but it's a diamond food for me--so strange!

For those interested, it's brand name is Heritage Products, I bought it at Whole Foods (the "body shop" part, not the food part), and the ingredients are "USP Grade Pure Vegetable Glycerin".
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I'm getting headaches, light-headedness, muscle weakness, no energy, and sudden hunger pains, much like before I started BTD.  It sounds like it's made of corn syrup!


See....that was my first thought.  Anything that says Vegetable on it reeks of corn to me.  I'm trusting Dr. D that it's not made of corn, but I haven't been able to find out what it really is made from.

I get the NOW brand.  It says "food grade" on it, but it's also in the cosmetics section.  Maybe the brand you got isn't food grade.  What does USP grade mean?


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Maybe the brand you got isn't food grade.  What does USP grade mean?

Good question.  Another thought that came to me is that this may be another food sensitivity issue, kind of like how I'm sensitive to eggs even though they are also a superfood.
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the processed form is glycerol and should show no lectin activity.....
you simply are susceptible to glycerol.
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/.....egetable-glyc?blog=9


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USP stands for United States Pharmacopia...  Here is a website speaking specifically about Glycerin.  It also describes USP grade and more...  Maybe more than you ever wanted to know...

USP and food grade are synonymous...

http://www.cleaning101.com/oleo/whygly.cfm


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I have consumed no veg. glycerine today, and I feel 100% better.  I think I was right.  Lola, I think you are right, too, this is just something I'm personally sensitive to and has nothing to do with BTD or GTD.
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Well, you tried.  Glad you're feeling better.


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