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Dianet52
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Hi all, Im a type O and also have big problems with sugar/yeast and mercury toxicity. I try to only do stevia but its almost impossible for me. It seems to me that I have to do the type O diet along with the candida diet (which are very similar). Im just wondering what am I to eat? Does anyone have any meal suggestions? Can't eat ezekial even though I love it cuz it has yeast. Where do you find stuff with no sugar, noyeast, no corn, no wheat, no gluten and other things? Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists. Never thought eating could be so complicated. Thanks for your insights!
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rice, vegetables, meat....there's even a real good rice pasta by tinkyada....
also lots of advise on these boards....search for "candida"...and take care...you'll get lots of help.
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... the type O diet along with the candida diet (which are very similar). Im just wondering what am I to eat? Does anyone have any meal suggestions? Can't eat ezekial even though I love it cuz it has yeast. Where do you find stuff with no sugar, noyeast, no corn, no wheat, no gluten and other things? Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists. Never thought eating could be so complicated. Thanks for your insights!


Meat and Greens should be your meal of choice ...  The yeast in bread won't feed the fungal overgrowth, but the starches will.     Keep bread, fruit and any other starches (including any legumes) to a minimum because they will all feed the problem.

For about 4 years, I've been slowly killing a massive overgrowth, detoxing, and healing...  It is a major project and one that quite often has you wondering what is going on...  My biggest suggestions are to stick with the low carbs as much as possible and make sure you are getting lots of protein for all the healing that will take place.

It would be helpful to find a good kinesiology practitioner to aid in determining what organs need healing throughout the process, but I don't know how to go about finding a good one.  I fell into one that is learning (and willing to do as much research, etc. as I do) as we go...



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Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists.

there IS such a cookbook!!!
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm

tweak recipes according to your food lists, issues, and needs.
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Candida doesn't like pumpkin seeds or oregano either.  Oregano is one of my most used spices.

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Xylitol is a good sweetener for this.  I use it myself!  Some studies have shown that it actually inhibits yeast growth.
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vegetable glycerine as well!!


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Thanks for the tips everyone. Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose. Dadamo does not say much in his books about thoses type O's with candida. Is white rice OK? Or just brown rice. 2 pieces of fruit ok? And how about stevia, is that acceptable? What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli? BTW I tried xylitol and it wreaks major havoc on my digestive system, extreme and painful gas, thx though its was worth a try! And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?
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Dadamo does not say much in his books about those type O's with candida.

the diet is balancing and health restoring as well as anti inflammatory......compliance is key, and you might want to look into the different protocols, perhaps following the yeast fungus one for starts.
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm

also check his library health series, all excellent!
http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=19

peruse the store, there s so much learning material available
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeO_basic.asp

try vegetable glycerine for sweetener, and use the search engine for info on any given question you might have, apart from asking here ofcourse!
http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm


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I just read a book by Caroline Sutherland called Your Body Knows Diet. I got it from the library because I heard her talking on the radio about how bad wheat is for everyone, so thought it might be compatiable thought with the BTD. Her book can overstate a lot of stuff but she does go into a lot about how too much wheat and sugar in our diet has caused a lot of yeast overgrowth in lots of people causing a lot of different health issues. I do agree that we are probably better off using as little wheat as possible.

Just a few months ago, I began eating as gluten free as possible.  Luckily there are lots of products on the market now for that, and many regular grocery stores have them.  We have a Kroger chain that even puts gluten free tags on things. So you can tell that the health and food industry now know that it will probably be well known soon that most modern day gluten products are hard on our digestive systems.

Not an expert on this, but first try eliminating the products with gluten. Be careful about eating a lot of yeast and little to no refined white sugar. One theory on yeast infection is not so much that the yeast aggrevates it but that gluten does and that if you get it you get sugar cravings.

I do not like stevia even though it is supposed to be natural and I avoid all artificial sweeteners.  Try agave nectar. It is like a thin honey type product, from the agave plant, it is sweet so you can use much less of it, and it does not impact your blood sugar like regular sugar or even honey can.
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Thanks for the tips everyone. Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose. Dadamo does not say much in his books about thoses type O's with candida. Is white rice OK? Or just brown rice. 2 pieces of fruit ok? And how about stevia, is that acceptable? What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli? BTW I tried xylitol and it wreaks major havoc on my digestive system, extreme and painful gas, thx though its was worth a try! And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?


Hey Diane52.  Not the white rice, but the brown...basmati is even better.  Or quinoa (keen wa) and amaranth grain are better choices than the white rice.  Nothing much in that to help your body function.  Like eating white bread.   Try having your red meat like beef steak, buffalo, etc. for breakfast along with a salad.   It really makes the day go along alot better.

Xylitol...I can't do that either.  Bad gas too.  Stevia also.  I do better on vegetable glycerin and agave nectar.

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Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose.....What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli?...Can I ever be normal again?


Well, I think it is one of those whereby the glass is either half full or half empty.  

You can look at your type O food lists and the additional candida recommendations and only notice all the food you have eaten every day of your life that goes out of the window and feel limited and deprived.  

Or you can look at them and note all the food you didn't even know existed and get excited about trying to find it, find out how to prepare it and try it!  And if you do the latter you won't feel limited so much but enriched...as well as doing your health the world of good.

You were probably joking about the chicken and brocoli for breakfast but a lot of Os do indeed find that protein and greens is a very good way to start the day.  If you can't face that idea think eggs or at least protein rich, low carb grains/seeds.  Go very easy on fruit whilst you treat your candida.

As for ever being 'normal' again - even a perfectly healthy and candida free O should not have more than 5-6 servings of grain per week on BTD...so chances are that no, you won't ever be 'normal' again (as you know it).  However, you will find a new 'normal' state - a much happier and healthier one!  
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And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?

As I stated above, how long it takes to get rid of the candida depends on how bad it is, how many organs are sick, what other complications you have, how well you eat, what protocol you use, how long it takes to find out if you need some additional supplement help, etc...

How to get rid of it?
The MOST important thing you can do is follow your BTD or GTD diet impeccably for weight loss.  This will remove so much toxin material out of the body that the candida will have less to eat.  This may cause detox symptoms, but it will be better  for you in the long run...

I am very aware that it can be difficult to get rid of the candida, but you heal so many things while doing so that you are like a new person when finished...

Will you ever be "normal" again?
There are many who suggest that once you have had a major candida infection, that you will always be susceptible to it.  My opinion is that if you do the things that allowed you to get the candida infection in the first place, it is very likely that you will get it again...  If you are able to get rid of it, and you continue doing "enough" of that protocol, that you will be able to keep it away.


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One thing you should take advantage of is ghee (clarified butter) due to the caprylic acid content, plus the butyric is also good for gut healing. Or, use Intrinsa (from the NAP store linked on this page at the top).

There are many threads around the forum dealing with both candida and mercury, it would be worthwhile looking through them.
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I'd say go for lots of spices - curry, ginger, tumeric, cinnamon...    as well as plenty of meat, fish, beans.    Be really careful of sweetners, carbs and dairy.    
Oh, lots of compliant vege is good as well

Really go for the spices - at least twice daily


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I have taken PauD'arco for this in past.
Cranberry tablets may help.


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Candida doesn't like pumpkin seeds or oregano either.  Oregano is one of my most used spices.


speaking of oregano........DH and I went to his high school reunion Sat night.........the food was soooooooo good. the green beans had oregano on them.    I have never had them like that before and they were really good.



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the green beans had oregano on them.    I have never had them like that before and they were really good.

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What's confusing is people say no dairy, yet some cheeses have butyric acid in them.  Which ones, I don't know, but I think it would be unwise to cut out ALL dairy.  I have yogurt and kefir on a regular basis and it's considered beneficial.  There are no beneficial sugars, except what's in beneficial fruits.  But I think if you use some wisdom in not overeating those and grains, you're on the right track.  I know that caprylic acid helped me a great deal too.  I take the intrinsa currently along with a thing called Fire Tree Bark. And of course a probiotic.  I feel like it's getting better, but slowly.  But I'm still eating some sugary fruits (not alot) and still eat grains.  I avoided those for awhile and I got so thin and sickly that my doctor told me to start eating more grains.  And he's a doctor that understands candida and prescribes supplements.  Which is rare.  Your body still needs fuel.  Just try not to overdue it and find a comfortable spot.  It may be wise to cut those things out for a week or two, but I think if you go too long, it might not be good.  I don't know, I could be all wet.

Another thing is I upped my intake of ghee and olive oil, per my doctor and I think it is another piece of the puzzle of feeling better.  Ghee, tastes good and I think helps heal your gut!!!!!  And doesn't have as much cholesterol as regular butter.

I pray you get it under control and feel better!!!!


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I think get some sun as well, everyday - Im sure it helps somehow


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I'm just kidding.  In the winter in Wisconsin, it's barely ever there.  Good thing it's not winter!


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Hi Diane,

I also have been struggling with Candida.  It is very hard to make the changes in diet, but it is so rewarding.  This site has been such a great site for me. I got alot of relief following the o-nonnie diet.

For me, the toughest thing about having Candida was having to cook every single meal. I compromised and cook one meal in the evening and eat it for dinner, breakfast and lunch.  Sometimes I will choose to buy a salad for lunch as a substitute or supplement to the leftovers.  

I limit my starch to one meal per day and keep it to brown rice or sweet potato.  I am trying to learn about millet.  I have a few favorite recipes that I just love.  Many times I am so grateful I can still eat such good food.

1.  brown basmati rice w/cinnamon, clove, pepper
2.  chicken curry w/great northern bean and zucchini
3.  ground beef in tomato sauce w/carrot & pea
4.  roast lamb w/lemon and rosemary
5.  carmelized onion & zucchini
6.  sweet potato stir fry
7.  roasted asparagus w/olive oil, salt & pepper

1.  chocolate fudge (almond butter & xylitol)
2.  Lemonade (w/stevia)
3.  Zevia -- soda pop made with stevia.

If I am going for a hard workout (e.g. hike 4-6 hours) I will bring a sandwich made with ezekiel bread since I will burn the carbs pretty quickly.

I recommend the site http://www.Wholeapproach.com for treating the candida.  I have found their products to be very helpful.  

Good luck.  We all need it
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I'm just kidding.  In the winter in Wisconsin, it's barely ever there.  Good thing it's not winter!


The weather is great in Slovakia - a bit cold in the winter though (-15C).    But right now Im in New York but cant figure out how to change my profile...


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The weather is great in Slovakia - a bit cold in the winter though (-15C).    But right now Im in New York but cant figure out how to change my profile...


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Ok the more I read about it all the more I believe I have candida. Plus I read something here about how if you have silver fillings unless you get them removed it may be hard for the candida to stop. I have about 10 of them and it started since I was six plus most of the symptoms I read - Craving sugar,bloating and gas,blurred vision,Chemical sensitivity,depression,cravings,bad breath,insomnia,brain fog,Bladder infections,food allergies,Vaginal yeast infection,Joint and muscle pain and Panic attacks - I have had all of these on and off. I am waiting for my secretor test to come also + have an appointment with an allergy place about testing me for allergies so Ill see if they pcik up mercury from the silver fillings. It would bring a lot of light to my situation to be professionaly diagnosed. I have always craved chocolate licorice but am trying to not eat it because of the wheat and sugar but I feel sempty and tired most of the time and always unsatisfied or hungry or some of those symptoms above. I have contacted a Holistic Dentist in NSW -Im in Western Australia to try and get an appointment or if he can recommend someone in Perth where I am. He also specialises in removing metal from your body. I have been diagnosed with candida by an iridologist before and took paud'arco for it but at the time I didn't know I had celiacs disease too, but I've never fully felt 100% satisfied and have always have food problems and cravings and the silver fillings/candida could be the missing part of the puzzle. My blurry vision has always been a big factor also and I know sugar is bad for that too.
Thanks to all of you being there bit by bit I am discovering so much about myself and health.


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Huntress, you're an Aussie!  Something you already know   but I didn't, and it's great to see another Aussie here.

I thought I would respond because I can relate to everything you're saying (symptoms, struggling with cravings, the lot).  I have quite a few silver fillings but when I recently had a Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis I was ok for mercury levels - thankfully.

The allergy place you are going to, how do they test for the allergies?  It will be interesting to see if the avoids for Type O feature strongly.  I think you mentioned you are a celiac?  Did you find this out thru testing or by an elimination diet?  If you aren't truly celiac maybe you could try baking some things with spelt which is what I'm using when I get cravings.

I wish you all the best and hope you find out lotsa things to help you on your journey to good health.




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Huntress, I think I had what you had or the male equivalent.    Suggest step one would be to try to find a sympathetic dentist who will get the metal out of your body.   Then, make sure your GTD analysis is exactly right and follow Dr D to the letter.    I think you can get better quickly and feel better than you ever know.    But you have to get the foreign body (metal) out of your mouth first, and get any other foreign bodies removed,


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Hi well I told my cousin here about it and she's a dental hygenist and her reply was

"As for that dental stuff, you have been reading way way way too much bullsh*t. I have nearly all those symptoms aswell and i don't have a single filling in my mouth. If you want to remove metal fillings you can do that in Perth. But there has still not being any published medical research to say that amalgum fillings have any systemic effects on people. They also last alot longer than 'white' fillings do."

I am going to call the allergy place and double check a few things about whether they test for mercury or not.

I did a candida spit test this morning. At first it looks like what the results picture showed, with the stringy bits but after half an hour the stringy bits weren't there anymore - so what does that mean? how else should I get tested?

I also got my secretor test which Im doing very soon and sending back today.


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I don't think the stringy bits hang around forever.  If they were there after 30 minutes, you've got candida.


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does anyone have any testimonies about silver fillings and candida - I read here somewhere that if you have silver fillings that candida will never get better.
I mad an artichoke and pineapple salad to go with my salmon today  - - - I will be sad to see the pineapple go - but what can you do?


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also does anyone have any other well know ways to test for mercury in the body?


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"As for that dental stuff, you have been reading way way way too much bullsh*t. I have nearly all those symptoms aswell and i don't have a single filling in my mouth. If you want to remove metal fillings you can do that in Perth. But there has still not being any published medical research to say that amalgum fillings have any systemic effects on people. They also last alot longer than 'white' fillings do."


Sigh....this is 90% of the dental industry unfortunately.   These same people will happily put mercury fillings inside your teeth.   That will do 2 things - give you a dose of toxicity (mercury is more toxic than lead), and set up electrical currents which arent usually there.   The mouth is not a good place to have extra electrical currents because of proximity to the neck, spinal cord and brain.

There is no single conclusive test for mercury toxicity.    You can get a battery of tests done and an experienced person can look at all the data and should be able to make a conclusion.

If you find a sympathetic dentist (just google search amalgam free dentistry and you will find a whole bunch in your area) they will test the current or voltage in your mouth, and let you know if you think you have a problem there.

There are lots of books on the subject:
Hal Huggins - Its All in Your Head
Mark Bremmer - Whole Body Dentistry

Huggins has a website to

[img] http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/ [/img]

Let me know if you want any more information.   I had a bad experience with all this stuff 2 years ago - and the 30 years preceding that


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Thanks for the tips everyone. Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose. Dadamo does not say much in his books about thoses type O's with candida. Is white rice OK? Or just brown rice. 2 pieces of fruit ok? And how about stevia, is that acceptable? What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli? BTW I tried xylitol and it wreaks major havoc on my digestive system, extreme and painful gas, thx though its was worth a try! And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?

Root veggies are good in place of the avoid grains such as wheat pasta.  So are veggies like broccoli and green beans.  Just use then anywhere you would normally use pasta.  You can use rice, like brown rice or brown basmati rice, especially since you are a secretor (nonnies are more sensitive to grains, even the compliant ones).

Guys, an important thing to do to help with sustainable compliance on the BTD (whether you are challenged with candida or not) is to get to know your local health food store.  Familiarize yourself intimately with all their wheat-free, gluten-free breads and pastas (for example, quinoa is a quick and easy pasta that is, of course, wheat free, and also gluten free and very high in complete protein).  My HFS sells a line of millet & flax breads, pizza crusts, lavashes (kinda like wraps or pita or a hybrid of both), and other products made from millet & flax.  It also has 100% rye bread, rice breads, etc.

Nuts and seeds help with variety from just meat and veggies, as do whole fruits.  I know some of you are concerned with sugar due to candida, but my opinion is that natural sugars in whole fruit that is relatively slowly absorbed is not bad, especially given all the other great, life-infused nutrients you are getting from the fruit.

Also, familiarize yourself with the recipe section of this great site, as Lola suggested earlier.  There is a treasure-trove of monotony-busting, joy-filled recipes there.

Again, substitute root veggies (sweet potatoes, parsnip, kolrabi), rice, quinoa and other compliant grains, and low-glycemic veggies (brocolli, green beans) for pasta and non-compliant grains.  For example, do you miss pasta with pesto sauce?  Well, you haven't lived until you have tried brown basmati rice (I like Lundberg brand, specifically) with pesto sauce.  Add lemon juice, garlic and a little salmon for a delicious O main course.  You miss tabouleh, you say?  Well, you can make it with quinoa instead of bulgar wheat!  Yep!  That is a truly live fact!  You miss ice cream?  Try a blended 100% fruit smoothie made with pineapple juice, raspberries, and a banana if you want to trip out on tropical goodness.  You can add frozen mango, 100% fruit concentrate syrups like the Tree of Life line (again, check out your local health food store to find treasures like that), and if you want a thick consistency like ice cream, add a little almondbutter and check out the result.

Guys, there are so many wheat-free, gluten-free alternatives out there now and it seems that there are new ones every day coming into my health food store.  The trick is when you are starting off (and really for everyone) to realize that there is a learning curve and that it isn't that you are relegated to a choice-free, boring diet but that you just have to learn what all is out there to substitute for the items you are used to.  I find that in almost all cases, the blood-type compliant substitutes are actually BETTER than the original food in question!  It feels GOOD and tastes delicious to eat in harmony with our hard-wiring.  It doesn't feel like a joyless chore, as other diets do.  If a diet feels that way, it is a sign that it is the wrong diet for you.  For years, I followed high-carb, low-fat diets and they never felt right, but I convinced myself that something was wrong with me.  Well, no, something was wrong with the diets in terms of they weren't a fit for me.  The BTD diets are customized and individualized and should feel GOOD, like clothing that fits you just right and is delightfully comfortable, freeing and a joy to wear.

So if it feels restrictive and/or monotonous at first, just give yourself time to learn about alternatives to your favorite avoids.  You can learn at the health food store, here on this board/forum (please feel free to ask questions!), and throughout this info-dense site (recipe base, for example).

Once you learn (and it is a continual process, you will always be discovering new foods that help you stick to this diet and sustain your compliance) all the delicious, nutritious, joyous, non-offending-to-your-body, chi-laden, compliant alternatives out there, this diet should be a variety-filled, delicious, deeply nourishing joy to experience.  Just give yourself time to learn about exotic things like quinoa and about substituting x for y, etc.  You'll be ever more dazzled, thrilled and ...well, just dazzled and thrilled, basically.


edited to add:  about candida specifically, I believe there is a candida protocol in the Encyclopedia...am I right on that?  And possibly on this site, too, I'll look for a link now...

edited further to add:  How rude of me!  I forgot to say WELCOME, DIANE!


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Okay, go here:

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/30.html

edited to add:  whew, boy howdy:  is it me, or does that sound like a lot of Vitamin A?


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vit A doses are always pretty high!


great extensive tips post for an 'O with candida' you put together there PT!!!


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Hi well I told my cousin here about it and she's a dental hygenist and her reply was

"As for that dental stuff, you have been reading way way way too much bullsh*t. I have nearly all those symptoms aswell and i don't have a single filling in my mouth. If you want to remove metal fillings you can do that in Perth. But there has still not being any published medical research to say that amalgum fillings have any systemic effects on people. They also last alot longer than 'white' fillings do."



Our dentist (who is not holistic, but great anyway) no longer uses amalgam fillings.  He said they expand and contract and end up putting cracks in your teeth that have them.  My husband is proof of this and is now having to have some crowns done to cover teeth cracked from amalgam fillings.

The white fillings may not last as long (or so your cousin thinks) but

a)  they are safer
b)  they look a whole heap better, and...
c)  the cost of a crown (because your tooth has cracked) compared to replacing a white filling, is pretty high.

I'd choose the white fillings any day!



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I was delighted to find a dentist just around the corner from us who uses composite fillings.  However, this doesn't mean he's in any way "natural" about anything else.  Every 6 months they want to take about 18 x-rays of your mouth (from every single angle possible), even of the children!   I let them do DD#1 a year ago but we haven't been back.  They also wanted to do fluoride treatment but I said no.  I don't want her having x-rays.  I feel awful even doing what we did.


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Hi Guys,
I haven't heard back from the dentist overeast yet but looking forward to it.
When I feel strongly about something - even if m told its bullsh*t I will still investigate as much as possible.

Does anyone know about blackstrap mollasses and candida - I have been trying to look it up - there are so many other benefits to it Im havnig a problem giving that up. Yesterday I still had my pineapple - after reading this from the modern herbalist Sweets and Sweet Cravings
If you need a sweetener, use stevia (available in natural food stores) or XYLITOL (birch bark sugar which may cause loose stool). If grapefruit agrees with you, you may have 1/2 unsweetened grapefruit daily, away from all other foods. If you absolutely must have something sweet, a small amount of fresh berries or very small portions of fresh unsweetened pineapple every once in a while, are the only acceptable sweets (these should only be eaten in the event of an overwhelming sweet craving and not on a regular or daily basis) Sweet cravings are controlled more effectively by eating protein rather than sweets. All other sugar containing fruits and sweets will set you back! Not skipping meals prevents sweet cravings.


I am more worried about my fillings and knowing I wont be as healthy or be able to beat this till Im rid of them. I have sometimes done oil pulling to remove metals so maybe Ill do that in the meant time until I can see a dentist.


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http://www.modernherbalist.com/diet.html

tell me what you think?

+ Cilantro is meant to be really good for getting mercury out of your body.
I dont know if they sell it here but I will definately looking for it when I go to the shops today.


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Well, I had half of my mouth de amalgamed last year and to be honest, I think it made me feel worse for a while.  I know it should help in the long run, but my doctor said doing too much at one time is not a good idea.  He had 33 done all at once and said he was sick for 2 years.  Now, I realize there is probably alot of different opionions on this, but I'm waiting with the rest of mine.  And when I do them, I'll only do a few at a time probably.


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I think that's a safer way to go AB.  I think there would still be some leakage of amalgam when they are taking it out no matter how careful they are.  Give your body a chance to deal with a little at a time  

I have fillings that need to be replaced but I'm such a big chicken


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I think I have between 8-10 to do.
AB was it expensive?
The dentist I want to see is a specialist with it.
I am happy to do two at a time or whatever the dentist suggests.


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Caz B you live close to the only specialist holistic dentist who does it - this is the first contact then it goes on to selecting country and comes up with the dentist.

Tom McGuire, DDS
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you can also tr vegetable glycerine for a sweetener.

there s  cilantro pesto recipe....find it through the search on homepage.....chelating to boot!


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Caz B you live close to the only specialist holistic dentist who does it - this is the first contact then it goes on to selecting country and comes up with the dentist.

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I had a look at the site you mentioned.  The dentist you are talking about is in the north coast of NSW just before Byron Bay.  It is about a 9 hour drive from Sydney.  So if you were planning on making the trip you wouldn't fly to Sydney, it would actually be closer to try a regional airport or fly to the Gold Coast and drive down.

There must be other dentists out there that can safely remove amalgam fillings and replace them with the white composite ones.  My dentist does it but I don't know how "safe" it is.


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Yes - Ill wait for him to get back to me and hopefully he can suggest some safe dentists in Perth.


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Do you have a naturopath that can suggest a reasonably local holistic dentist.  My naturopath is a wealth of info and I ask her about SO many things  


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I've been working with a holistic dentist on my metal "issues"... I've never been more furious with a health practitioner than I've been with my previous dentist. All of the crowns I paid dearly for have metal bases!!!     Further examination shows that they really don't "fit" well either...   (that one is for the bill!)

My brother and his wife both had their regular dentist remove amalgams, but she didn't take extra precautions. Both of them ingested large quatities of the metals in the process. Both have been suffering since from rashes, especially my brother. He itched for over 6 months before it started to come back under control. Not one to go to the doc, he itched so bad he's seen 3 specialists! The only plausible explaination for both of them is the dental work.

The dentist should put a "dam" around the tooth, blocking the throat. They should also provide a breathing apparatus. Without both, you will breathe in the vaporized metals as they are drilled out.

I wish I could have it all out RIGHT NOW.... but it's too expensive.
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I think I have between 8-10 to do.
AB was it expensive?
The dentist I want to see is a specialist with it.
I am happy to do two at a time or whatever the dentist suggests.


Yes, very expensive.  And our health insurance doesn't cover it.  Only way I could do it is because my Grandma gave me some money.  Talk about spoiled.  Of course I would've rather spent it on something frivolous.  Hehehhehehhehehhe.  Whatever.

If I was you, I wouldn't obsess over it.  I'd follow the diet as closely as I could, cut out ALL processed sugar and goodies, like cake and ice cream and chocolate bars.  Things none of us are supposed to have anyways.  And gluten, wheat.  From there, you can decide which fruits you want to try, and etc.  I also know that I did a protocol last year given to my by my ND that helped a bunch.  It was Capryl oil, bentonite magma, a probiotic, and psyllium powder.  It killed it pretty good.  But also Dr.D's intrinsa and larch powder are probably a good idea too.  Intinsa has caprylic acid and butyric acid which I believe kills it too.  I take intrinsa now and fire tree bark tea, and trying to take something called candidase.  Which is nothing more than a bunch of enzymes.  And I take a probiotic.  

I think I said all this already, so sorry for repeating myself.  Obiously you'll have to decide what works for you.  But I can understand the overwhelming feeling of wanting to kill it and kill it fast, and not knowing exactly how to do it.


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Maldo I am very interested in knowing more about your story and please message me here or private message - whatever you wish and I will look up the website you mention.


I can add another few comments based on my experience.

I read a lot of medical literature/ research  at the time and got from that a strong suggestion that you should remove any metal from the mouth before trying to deal with candida or gut issues.   The logic being that yeast overgrowth was a natural body response to toxicity.   ie. the candida occurred so that it could mop up foreign toxins floating around, by binding to them and carry them out.

The strong suggestion was deal with the metal first before trying to fix the gut or any other health issues.   (unfortunately I did it the other way around and seriously attacked the candida first and was in sorry state - nausea, poor balance and eye sight not so good)

The other main point I picked up from the literature was that post removal can be a tough time emotionally, but lasts no longer than a month usually.    So just to make sure you try and prepare to be easy on yourself after removal and have some support.

I had about 12 or 14 amalgam filings removed over 2 days.   The dentist I had in the UK was very experienced with amalgam replacement (it was virtually all he did), and had all the equipment for ventilation and disposal...

Am happy to help out further if you have any questions etc...


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Wow.  So....how to come up with thousands of $$$ to have that done.......   Liquid chlorophyll helps us in the candida realm.


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Its a tough one.   I couldnt earn or make money at the time given the condition I was in so it had to be done.   Even so I had to use my money and time and have faith it was the right direction


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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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Well, I got to thinking about all this.  My Mom struggled with a lot of these problems and overcame alot with BTD and now GTD.  She says she feels better than she has in years and has for the last year or so, and she still has her old amalgams in.  I don't know how many, but she has some.

I'm just giving my experience.  I know there are differing opinions on the matter.  And I'm not saying I'm right.  I'm just saying what I know and have been told.  I only have like 4 left.  Which is good.  Either way I'd like them out someday.  My wife had the foresight to use the white stuff when she had the few cavaties she did.


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Epicurious has a cooking website with a recipe search engine that you can customize your search to eliminate certain foods and ingredients.
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Epicurious has a cooking website with a recipe search engine that you can customize your search to eliminate certain foods and ingredients.


Thanks, Moonsglowseven.  Welcome to the board!


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moonglowseven,
welcome to the forum!

have you visited our recipe central?
hope you find lots of recipes you can tweak according to your needs!
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm


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great extensive tips post for an 'O with candida' you put together there PT!!!

Anything for my B-n-GTD peeps!  



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