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Dianet52
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Hi all, Im a type O and also have big problems with sugar/yeast and mercury toxicity. I try to only do stevia but its almost impossible for me. It seems to me that I have to do the type O diet along with the candida diet (which are very similar). Im just wondering what am I to eat? Does anyone have any meal suggestions? Can't eat ezekial even though I love it cuz it has yeast. Where do you find stuff with no sugar, noyeast, no corn, no wheat, no gluten and other things? Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists. Never thought eating could be so complicated. Thanks for your insights!
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rice, vegetables, meat....there's even a real good rice pasta by tinkyada....
also lots of advise on these boards....search for "candida"...and take care...you'll get lots of help.
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Vegetables and meat  
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... the type O diet along with the candida diet (which are very similar). Im just wondering what am I to eat? Does anyone have any meal suggestions? Can't eat ezekial even though I love it cuz it has yeast. Where do you find stuff with no sugar, noyeast, no corn, no wheat, no gluten and other things? Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists. Never thought eating could be so complicated. Thanks for your insights!


Meat and Greens should be your meal of choice ...  The yeast in bread won't feed the fungal overgrowth, but the starches will.     Keep bread, fruit and any other starches (including any legumes) to a minimum because they will all feed the problem.

For about 4 years, I've been slowly killing a massive overgrowth, detoxing, and healing...  It is a major project and one that quite often has you wondering what is going on...  My biggest suggestions are to stick with the low carbs as much as possible and make sure you are getting lots of protein for all the healing that will take place.

It would be helpful to find a good kinesiology practitioner to aid in determining what organs need healing throughout the process, but I don't know how to go about finding a good one.  I fell into one that is learning (and willing to do as much research, etc. as I do) as we go...



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Man Im gonna do a search and see if there is a such a cookbook that exists.

there IS such a cookbook!!!
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm

tweak recipes according to your food lists, issues, and needs.
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Candida doesn't like pumpkin seeds or oregano either.  Oregano is one of my most used spices.

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Xylitol is a good sweetener for this.  I use it myself!  Some studies have shown that it actually inhibits yeast growth.
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vegetable glycerine as well!!


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Thanks for the tips everyone. Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose. Dadamo does not say much in his books about thoses type O's with candida. Is white rice OK? Or just brown rice. 2 pieces of fruit ok? And how about stevia, is that acceptable? What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli? BTW I tried xylitol and it wreaks major havoc on my digestive system, extreme and painful gas, thx though its was worth a try! And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?
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Dadamo does not say much in his books about those type O's with candida.

the diet is balancing and health restoring as well as anti inflammatory......compliance is key, and you might want to look into the different protocols, perhaps following the yeast fungus one for starts.
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm

also check his library health series, all excellent!
http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=19

peruse the store, there s so much learning material available
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeO_basic.asp

try vegetable glycerine for sweetener, and use the search engine for info on any given question you might have, apart from asking here ofcourse!
http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm


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I just read a book by Caroline Sutherland called Your Body Knows Diet. I got it from the library because I heard her talking on the radio about how bad wheat is for everyone, so thought it might be compatiable thought with the BTD. Her book can overstate a lot of stuff but she does go into a lot about how too much wheat and sugar in our diet has caused a lot of yeast overgrowth in lots of people causing a lot of different health issues. I do agree that we are probably better off using as little wheat as possible.

Just a few months ago, I began eating as gluten free as possible.  Luckily there are lots of products on the market now for that, and many regular grocery stores have them.  We have a Kroger chain that even puts gluten free tags on things. So you can tell that the health and food industry now know that it will probably be well known soon that most modern day gluten products are hard on our digestive systems.

Not an expert on this, but first try eliminating the products with gluten. Be careful about eating a lot of yeast and little to no refined white sugar. One theory on yeast infection is not so much that the yeast aggrevates it but that gluten does and that if you get it you get sugar cravings.

I do not like stevia even though it is supposed to be natural and I avoid all artificial sweeteners.  Try agave nectar. It is like a thin honey type product, from the agave plant, it is sweet so you can use much less of it, and it does not impact your blood sugar like regular sugar or even honey can.
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Thanks for the tips everyone. Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose. Dadamo does not say much in his books about thoses type O's with candida. Is white rice OK? Or just brown rice. 2 pieces of fruit ok? And how about stevia, is that acceptable? What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli? BTW I tried xylitol and it wreaks major havoc on my digestive system, extreme and painful gas, thx though its was worth a try! And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?


Hey Diane52.  Not the white rice, but the brown...basmati is even better.  Or quinoa (keen wa) and amaranth grain are better choices than the white rice.  Nothing much in that to help your body function.  Like eating white bread.   Try having your red meat like beef steak, buffalo, etc. for breakfast along with a salad.   It really makes the day go along alot better.

Xylitol...I can't do that either.  Bad gas too.  Stevia also.  I do better on vegetable glycerin and agave nectar.

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Veggies and meat sounds pretty monotonous but its better than starving I suppose.....What do people like this eat for breakfast? Chicken and brocoli?...Can I ever be normal again?


Well, I think it is one of those whereby the glass is either half full or half empty.  

You can look at your type O food lists and the additional candida recommendations and only notice all the food you have eaten every day of your life that goes out of the window and feel limited and deprived.  

Or you can look at them and note all the food you didn't even know existed and get excited about trying to find it, find out how to prepare it and try it!  And if you do the latter you won't feel limited so much but enriched...as well as doing your health the world of good.

You were probably joking about the chicken and brocoli for breakfast but a lot of Os do indeed find that protein and greens is a very good way to start the day.  If you can't face that idea think eggs or at least protein rich, low carb grains/seeds.  Go very easy on fruit whilst you treat your candida.

As for ever being 'normal' again - even a perfectly healthy and candida free O should not have more than 5-6 servings of grain per week on BTD...so chances are that no, you won't ever be 'normal' again (as you know it).  However, you will find a new 'normal' state - a much happier and healthier one!  
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And is it possible to get rid of candida? How? How long? Can I ever be normal again?

As I stated above, how long it takes to get rid of the candida depends on how bad it is, how many organs are sick, what other complications you have, how well you eat, what protocol you use, how long it takes to find out if you need some additional supplement help, etc...

How to get rid of it?
The MOST important thing you can do is follow your BTD or GTD diet impeccably for weight loss.  This will remove so much toxin material out of the body that the candida will have less to eat.  This may cause detox symptoms, but it will be better  for you in the long run...

I am very aware that it can be difficult to get rid of the candida, but you heal so many things while doing so that you are like a new person when finished...

Will you ever be "normal" again?
There are many who suggest that once you have had a major candida infection, that you will always be susceptible to it.  My opinion is that if you do the things that allowed you to get the candida infection in the first place, it is very likely that you will get it again...  If you are able to get rid of it, and you continue doing "enough" of that protocol, that you will be able to keep it away.


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One thing you should take advantage of is ghee (clarified butter) due to the caprylic acid content, plus the butyric is also good for gut healing. Or, use Intrinsa (from the NAP store linked on this page at the top).

There are many threads around the forum dealing with both candida and mercury, it would be worthwhile looking through them.
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I'd say go for lots of spices - curry, ginger, tumeric, cinnamon...    as well as plenty of meat, fish, beans.    Be really careful of sweetners, carbs and dairy.    
Oh, lots of compliant vege is good as well

Really go for the spices - at least twice daily


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I have taken PauD'arco for this in past.
Cranberry tablets may help.


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Candida doesn't like pumpkin seeds or oregano either.  Oregano is one of my most used spices.


speaking of oregano........DH and I went to his high school reunion Sat night.........the food was soooooooo good. the green beans had oregano on them.    I have never had them like that before and they were really good.



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the green beans had oregano on them.    I have never had them like that before and they were really good.

you re Italy bound, right?


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What's confusing is people say no dairy, yet some cheeses have butyric acid in them.  Which ones, I don't know, but I think it would be unwise to cut out ALL dairy.  I have yogurt and kefir on a regular basis and it's considered beneficial.  There are no beneficial sugars, except what's in beneficial fruits.  But I think if you use some wisdom in not overeating those and grains, you're on the right track.  I know that caprylic acid helped me a great deal too.  I take the intrinsa currently along with a thing called Fire Tree Bark. And of course a probiotic.  I feel like it's getting better, but slowly.  But I'm still eating some sugary fruits (not alot) and still eat grains.  I avoided those for awhile and I got so thin and sickly that my doctor told me to start eating more grains.  And he's a doctor that understands candida and prescribes supplements.  Which is rare.  Your body still needs fuel.  Just try not to overdue it and find a comfortable spot.  It may be wise to cut those things out for a week or two, but I think if you go too long, it might not be good.  I don't know, I could be all wet.

Another thing is I upped my intake of ghee and olive oil, per my doctor and I think it is another piece of the puzzle of feeling better.  Ghee, tastes good and I think helps heal your gut!!!!!  And doesn't have as much cholesterol as regular butter.

I pray you get it under control and feel better!!!!


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I think get some sun as well, everyday - Im sure it helps somehow


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I'm just kidding.  In the winter in Wisconsin, it's barely ever there.  Good thing it's not winter!


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Hi Diane,

I also have been struggling with Candida.  It is very hard to make the changes in diet, but it is so rewarding.  This site has been such a great site for me. I got alot of relief following the o-nonnie diet.

For me, the toughest thing about having Candida was having to cook every single meal. I compromised and cook one meal in the evening and eat it for dinner, breakfast and lunch.  Sometimes I will choose to buy a salad for lunch as a substitute or supplement to the leftovers.  

I limit my starch to one meal per day and keep it to brown rice or sweet potato.  I am trying to learn about millet.  I have a few favorite recipes that I just love.  Many times I am so grateful I can still eat such good food.

1.  brown basmati rice w/cinnamon, clove, pepper
2.  chicken curry w/great northern bean and zucchini
3.  ground beef in tomato sauce w/carrot & pea
4.  roast lamb w/lemon and rosemary
5.  carmelized onion & zucchini
6.  sweet potato stir fry
7.  roasted asparagus w/olive oil, salt & pepper

1.  chocolate fudge (almond butter & xylitol)
2.  Lemonade (w/stevia)
3.  Zevia -- soda pop made with stevia.

If I am going for a hard workout (e.g. hike 4-6 hours) I will bring a sandwich made with ezekiel bread since I will burn the carbs pretty quickly.

I recommend the site http://www.Wholeapproach.com for treating the candida.  I have found their products to be very helpful.  

Good luck.  We all need it
Regards,
Nancy


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I'm just kidding.  In the winter in Wisconsin, it's barely ever there.  Good thing it's not winter!


The weather is great in Slovakia - a bit cold in the winter though (-15C).    But right now Im in New York but cant figure out how to change my profile...


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