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TJ
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Ribbit, these dairy and wheat "allergies" weren't actually allergies, but more like food sensitivities, right?  If that's the case, I'm sure that healing up your gut has been the main factor in this change.  After all, food sensitivities are just adverse reactions to undigested components of certain foods (like eggs for me).
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Right now, that's what were trying to do for my son and that's how the doctors and food specialist explained it.  The allergies come from your guts being messed up and the food qualities or whatevers get into your bloodstream, where they don't belong, and mess everything up.  (to be put in a nutshell with out any technical lingo, because I don't know any).  That's why they call it "leaky gut".  Now you may have never been diagnosed with that, but I think it's common with people and "allergies".  I'm sure there are other things that cause "allergies", but that is one way it can happen.

At least, that's how I understand it.  Now there are other issues like nuts and fish that my son just can not tolerate, and I don't know if they are in the same category as these ones that just kind of mess him up.  But certain nuts will come back up almost immediately.  And some fish smells has sent him into a asthmatic condition real quick.


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as I understand........Leaky Gut Syndrome is caused by damage to the bowel lining causing increased permeability of the gut wall, allowing undigested food, toxins, waste, etc to drop into your blood stream , causing allergies and a long list of other nasties.  



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Quoted from TJ
Ribbit, these dairy and wheat "allergies" weren't actually allergies, but more like food sensitivities, right?  If that's the case, I'm sure that healing up your gut has been the main factor in this change.  After all, food sensitivities are just adverse reactions to undigested components of certain foods (like eggs for me).


Well, let me explain the symptoms and maybe we can figure out if they were allergies or sensitivities.  I believe they were true allergies.  First of all I had the Vega Testing done (like Isa does) and was diagnosed with "allergies" to those foods as well as a few more.  My symptoms growing up: terrible fatigue, brain fog, muscle and joint aches from a very early age, unreasonable constipation, chronic yeast, white coating on tongue, dandruff.....I was grouchy and touchy.  I was only happy if I could be by myself.  I was depressed and suicidal (not terribly, but it was a frequent thought).

So when I was diagnosed with the allergies and stopped eating them, my digestion got slightly better.  I was still constipated but at least I went every day, albeit with great difficulty.  My depression went away.  It was like this dark cloud over my whole life lifted.  Everybody noticed a difference in me.  My cheeks weren't so pale and people started saying I looked pink instead of white.  Somebody said I had a sparkle in my eyes.

I ate wheat occasionally, usually accidentally.  My bowels would stop up and I wouldn't be able to go for two or three days.  Then finally I'd go, with difficulty, and then things would be back to normal.  But the depression would come back.  I'd start worrying about things again and be paranoid and extra touchy, sulky, confused and slow.  If I avoided wheat I was okay.  Spelt was okay.  The other grains were okay.

[Edited to add:  I think many of my learning problems as a child (dyslexia--which I think was actually dyspraxia), ADD, etc. was somewhat wheat-induced.  Because when I quit wheat at the age of 20, my brain cleared up so much that when I took classes again I could think!  I've long struggled with short-term memory loss (to the point people would look at me really weird because they'd just told me such-and-such and here I was asking them again), but after I quit wheat I had no trouble with test and pop quizzes given at short notice.  I actually did really well and I think had I quit wheat much earlier in life I would have had good grades and wouldn't have ever had to be tested and labeled as "special needs."  Also, on the mental side of wheat, some of the noise I've always had going on in my head calmed down.  I have constant music (so loud I can miss whole conversations around me), conversations with myself or others (real or imagined, sometimes I can't tell the difference--that probably means I'm insane, I don't know).  All this is still the case with me, but I can block it out better than I used to be able to, and the volume of the mental noise is lower.  It still takes a tremendous amount of energy to concentrate on a conversation (or on driving or shopping, for that matter), and it's exhausting (cause of adrenal fatigue?), but it's easier than it used to be.] End of edit addition.

If I had any dairy, even the slightest shred of cheese, I'd be in the bathroom within 24 hrs with stomach cramps comparable to labor pains.  No joke.  There were a few times where I was so dizzy the morning after dairy that I couldn't get out of bed.  I had to have help getting up or I'd fall over and have no control at all.  I wasn't just dizzy--it was like my horizon was off 90 degrees and I felt like if I was laying down everything was okay, but if I stood up or even sat up, I'd instantly hit the bed again.  Then it would all blow through and the dizziness would instantly be gone.  

So I don't know if those are allergies or intolerances.  At any rate, they're gone now, and I am supremely thankful and happy.


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Good thread...I will get some ghee this weekend.  
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Wow, I bet those really were allergies!  I am almost ashamed to complain about my pitiful problems after reading what you've been through.

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I have constant music (so loud I can miss whole conversations around me), conversations with myself or others (real or imagined, sometimes I can't tell the difference--that probably means I'm insane, I don't know).

Ah, me too.   Insanity isn't as bad as they say it is.
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Ribbit,
I can just say that there are so many things in your post that I can relate to...  Glad you are feeling much better...


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I just made a fresh batch. A bit more dark than I had meant to but it ought to be fine.
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GCG,
What filter material do you use?  
Whenever I get the ghee a bit dark, it doesn't flow through the coffee filter that I use...


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Well today I couldn't find any coffee filters so I used a double layer of plain white paper towels.
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ABJoe, I have the same problem using coffee filters with darker ghee, so I, too, use unbleached paper towels inside metal funnel.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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I just made a fresh batch. A bit more dark than I had meant to but it ought to be fine.


you might find you prefer it that way.  



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I don't like it as much once it turns tan...  I also read that it is partially burned, so some of the heat degradation that we really want to avoid has happened.  I try to not let it get to that point, but alas, I sometimes forget what I'm doing (or how many things I am doing)...


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Well I make it using the oven method and the first batch started out with a cool oven and a cool casserole dish. For the second pound I just put it in the same dish and back into the already hot oven but I left it 3 minutes longer, got distracted. I had cleaned and washed my ghee container and one pound of butter doesn't make enough to fill it 1/4 of the way.
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The stove method is easier for me. It takes 20 mins and I watch it while I'm cooking.  I do only 2 sticks at a time because I use more evoo than ghee. Evoo is a diamond. I'd forget about it if I did it in the oven. I've been making ghee for 18 years.
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Ok...I bought ghee this weekend...what a good taste...thank you for this post. I also bought carob powder...another taste treat.  These are things that are on my list of good foods but I never got around to trying them...so glad that I did.
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Wow Rex...imagine what good shape you are going to be in now?.  Watch your skin.

And Bill can have it too.

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Deb...I already used the ghee on the brown rice that I prepared for Bill yesterday...he thought he had died & gone to heaven.  I'm trying to keep his meals tasty so he'll stick with it...so far he has lost 8 pounds & feels mentally & physically very good.
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wait till you taste your own home made ghee!!


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Deb...I already used the ghee on the brown rice that I prepared for Bill yesterday...he thought he had died & gone to heaven.


Funny how taste buds are so dif. Rich says he doesn't like the taste. He does eat his eggs fried in it 5 days a week tho.    And anything I make w/ butter, he gets ghee. If he makes it, he uses margarine.     He won't give it up tho............yet.  



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Deb...I already used the ghee on the brown rice that I prepared for Bill yesterday...he thought he had died & gone to heaven. I'm trying to keep his meals tasty so he'll stick with it...so far he has lost 8 pounds & feels mentally & physically very good.


As my sister-in-law says 'It's like putting candy of your veggies.'  For me it has such a nice caramely/butterscotchy flavor.  And yes...Lola is right...wait till you make your own.
Congrats to Bill on the 8 lbs.

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Deb & Lola...after I use up this store-bought ghee I will try my hand at making it myself...I have become quite the cook since it's the only way to guarantee that there are no avoids in my food...commercial foods have a habit os sneaking those avoids into their recipes.

Deb...I always tell Bill that you post about him...his reaction is always a smile.  By the way...Bill got on the scale this morning and I saw another smile...he lost another pound bringing his weight-loss to 9 pounds!
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congratulations to his coach as well!!


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Lola...thanks.
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