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robin
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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As per several suggestions I'm using ghee to, hopefully, improve the health of my intestines.  I find that saturated fats tend to make me feel really ill so I am proceeding with caution.

However, how should I actually use ghee... alone, always mixed with foods, once a day, twice, mornings, evenings, 1 teaspoon, 5 teaspoons etc...



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you can cook with it, or spread on anything, or add to smoothies.....I even add it to my hot cocoa, whenever.
some take it straight.....everything goes!


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I use it any time I would use butter. In the mornings, I melt one tablespoon in a glass bowl on my warmer burner and slurp it down.  



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Ghee is really great for cooking. I use a blend of ghee and light olive oil to sautee vegetables. Ghee is also good on baked sweet potatoes, muffins and other goodies

You can also just eat a spoonful every morning if you like. It has a nice taste, sort of nutty, so it isn't hard to eat it plain.


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Ghee is really great for cooking. I use a blend of ghee and light olive oil to sautee vegetables.


this is just about all I use now. so funny because pre-BTD, yes I'd heard of olive oil...........  
never heard of ghee, didn't know there were all these wonderful nut oils from which to choose nor that there were SO many flours.  



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I use it any time I would use butter. In the mornings, I melt one tablespoon in a glass bowl on my warmer burner and slurp it down.  





Ineresting. I bet that's good!!!


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It is good. Sometimes I get a craving for ghee (usually when a bout of IBS threatens--pretty rare nowadays!)and do the same thing--just a tablespoon or so warmed up. It tastes great and I feel good for the rest of the day, no tummy rumbles or cramps I'd do it every day but have to watch my fat intake to some extent, since I use olive oil and ghee in cooking.


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This may sound strange, but my Doctor told me that Ghee and Olive Oil are very good for you and the excess will get flushed if your body doesn't need it.  I'm struggling with keeping weight on and he's telling me those are two really good fats to take in a good amount.  He also said more good carbs that coincide with my BTD / GTD.  

(He's an MD that uses many holistic practices)

I'm not everyone's doctor and other people may have problems with too much fat. But my overall cholesterol is high and he knows it, yet he is recommending it.  My HDL's are also very high, which is good.  FWIW.  

So anyways, I had quite a bit of Ghee on a rice cake and a lot more olive oil on my salad today.  It had really been scrimping on them, thinking I was doing myself good.  

I don't know if this is in conflict to Dr.D's studies, but I do remember him saying in one of his books that other societies outside of America seem to use ghee for cooking and such alot without the same heart disease results we have here.


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If ghee and butter are both neutrals for type O, why not use butter?  Is there a hidden value in ghee for type O's?


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But my overall cholesterol is high and he knows it, yet he is recommending it.  My HDL's are also very high, which is good.  FWIW.


I've been told by several doctors that the overall number doesn't tell you anything meaningful about cholesterol - that you need to know the ratio between LDL and HDL...

azredhead -
Ghee is high in Butyrate - a short chain fatty acid that helps the cells of the intestine walls...
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2004/07/22/butyrate-and-ghee?blog=27


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So the beneficial 'butyrate' doesnt appear until the milk solids disappear?  Is that right?  Something changes in the process of clarifying the butter?  (Its so hot here if you leave the butter out it clarifies itself;))


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So anyways, I had quite a bit of Ghee on a rice cake and a lot more olive oil on my salad today.  It had really been scrimping on them, thinking I was doing myself good.  

I don't know if this is in conflict to Dr.D's studies, but I do remember him saying in one of his books that other societies outside of America seem to use ghee for cooking and such alot without the same heart disease results we have here.
No, in doing that you are not in conflict with Dr. D. On page 225 of the GTD book (the Dairy list for Teachers) it says that the portion size for ghee is "as desired"  which means as much as you want even though it's not a diamond.

Flip ahead to pg. 227 (Fats & Oils) and it rates Olive oil as a Teacher diamond food - which means no limits.
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So the beneficial 'butyrate' doesnt appear until the milk solids disappear?  Is that right?  Something changes in the process of clarifying the butter?  (Its so hot here if you leave the butter out it clarifies itself;))


I can't guarantee that... Not smart enough, yet...

It is possible that the milk solids or water limit the effectiveness somehow...

btw, I see you're in AZ...  My MIL lives in So. Phx., so if you live anywhere in the southern half of the state, I understand about the hot!


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As desired for butter and ghee for Hunter.

This is so freeing.  I split open dates, take out the seed and fill the little concave center with clarified salted organic butter!  A treat indeed... so delicious.  It's like some kind of pie filling.  I can't place the taste yet.  

We are eating so much olive oil, ghee, and more butter everyday.  It's amazing the amount of good fats we are eating with our meals, and how satisfied we feel.  
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I've been told by several doctors that the overall number doesn't tell you anything meaningful about cholesterol - that you need to know the ratio between LDL and HDL...

azredhead -
Ghee is high in Butyrate - a short chain fatty acid that helps the cells of the intestine walls...
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2004/07/22/butyrate-and-ghee?blog=27


Yeah, following the traditional ratio thinking, I'm at a 4.  Which isn't great but it isn't bad.  I muscle tested for this stuff called policoosinal and I've been taking it and it's supposed to help regulate it.  I don't know.  All I know is it's always been overall high, but hopefully following the diets will bring it down to what it's supposed to be.  The problem with all the numbers is that we're all different.  Some people are higher and then like my wifes, her total number is 120.  My HDL is almost as high as her total.



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No, in doing that you are not in conflict with Dr. D. On page 225 of the GTD book (the Dairy list for Teachers) it says that the portion size for ghee is "as desired"  which means as much as you want even though it's not a diamond.

Flip ahead to pg. 227 (Fats & Oils) and it rates Olive oil as a Teacher diamond food - which means no limits.



Good!


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As desired for butter and ghee for Hunter.

This is so freeing.  I split open dates, take out the seed and fill the little concave center with clarified salted organic butter!  A treat indeed... so delicious.  It's like some kind of pie filling.  I can't place the taste yet.  

We are eating so much olive oil, ghee, and more butter everyday.  It's amazing the amount of good fats we are eating with our meals, and how satisfied we feel.  


Wow, that is a cool idea.  I'm going to eat something with ghee in it before I go to bed.  I think I'm going to have some oatmeal.  I had a real good amount on a rice cake today and I think it may be helping me to not have as much heartburn.  I've been getting it lately.


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it heals the intestinal walls, as Mikeo said above.....
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Butter is indeed neutral for Os, but ghee doesn't have the milk solids, which can be problematic for some sensitive Os (like me). I actually prefer ghee to butter now--it digests much more easily and the taste is delicious on just about anything.


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You know what really is shocking my old belief system with ghee, butter, and oils for Hunters is that they are mostly carte' blanch.  My old 'dieting mentality' gets a bit freaked out sometimes wondering about weight gain, etc.  IB tells me she doesn't even worry about it and has never gained a pound and uses plenty of olive oil and ghee.  

So I'm going to do the same!  I love not having to measure this stuff out and count calories... gosh.. what a pain in those old days.  Makes me tired thinking of it!  
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I don't gain weight from olive oil and ghee.


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As desired for butter and ghee for Hunter.

I split open dates, take out the seed and fill the little concave center with clarified salted organic butter!


funkymuse,

I have been making it with unsalted organic butter and then sprinkling some sea salt on after I spread it on something because I have had water retention problems with regular sodium in products.  I can't use it in an "as needed" manner unless it is unsalted.

To make ghee, Typebase and Wiki both say unsalted while Food Network just says butter.  I also checked a number of other sites and it is mixed.

Tea Rose  








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funkymuse,

I have been making it with unsalted organic butter and then sprinkling some sea salt on after I spread it on something because I have had water retention problems with regular sodium in products.



I do the same (although not because I have an issue with water retention); I just like the way the unsalted cultured butter does in the final product. I've never seen (not that it doesn't exist) a salted, cultured butter.

I use ghee in all kinds of applications: from frying eggs, to sauteeing turkey burgers, to spreading on toast. I love evoo, but I also love the browning capabilities of ghee. It's especially good in baked goods that call for butter.


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I use ghee in all kinds of applications: from frying eggs, to sauteeing turkey burgers,


I cook all my eggs in ghee, too. I too fry my beef or turkey burgers in ghee and evoo.......w/ a little salt and garlic powder. Wow! does it take the taste from bleh to yeah!!



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