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Angela
Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hello, new here -

have had fatigue and depression for years
just found out gluten can cause both
recommended to avoid gluten and follow Type B diet

Does anyone know the status of

xylitol (sweetener)
xantham gum (thickener)
psyllium (fiber)
soy lecethin
inulin
cream
edemame (raw soybeans, with pod, uncooked)

Also, does anyone know if it is OK to eat the skin of pinapples, mangoes, kiwi, and watermelon? I wish I could say it's because I want to put them in the blender for juicing, but it's not. I actually eat the skin. Are there any kind voices out there with some words of wisdom?
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no to eating the skin of those fruits especially pineapple...the thicker the peel the more you want to stay away from it

soybeans, soy lecithen and edamame no good for type B

artificial sweeteners are good for no one...use agave syrup if u need a sweetener


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Welcome!


Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.


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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

check typebase when in doubt about a food value

soy lecithin is ok for all, including Bs
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?cat=1075204426

which book have you read so far?
here s more on your individuality and physiology
Blood Type B Basics: The Blood Type B Individualized Lifestyle.
http://www.4yourtype.com/Typeb_basic.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXPJuoBIMY
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1130191808/s-443/#num443
individuality II


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also use the general search button
lots of good read
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Welcome fellow B!!!!
Eating protein, especially good grass fed meat, makes me feel better.    Watch out for hidden corn and soy in products.  They will make you sick.  When I am fatigued, I munch on Lavor Nori seaweed.  Check out the posts on adrenal fatigue.


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psyllium and inulin are not a problem....
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Quoted from mikeo


artificial sweeteners are good for no one...use agave syrup if u need a sweetener


from what I've read, xylitol is not an artificial sweetner.  Correct me if I'm wrong...


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The human body makes about 15 grams of xylitol a day.  Two things it can't do are feed yeast (or bacteria - yay!) and it will not carmelize.  Some people find that it gives them "social embarassment", although not nearly as badly as sorbitol, but generally, I think it is well-tolerated.  I can't get near sorbitol, but xylitol does not give me any trouble at all.  I use erythritol whenever possible, but it does not dissolve as well as xylitol. (Erythritol in lemon curd for a friend's birthday present was a disaster - had to start over  ).  Xylitol is 1:1 with sugar in sweetness. I've heard various proportions for erythritol, but the most frequent is that it's about 70% as sweet as sugar.  I don't know what the status of it is RE: ER4YT, but I use it as a sugar substitute, since I am hypoglycemic, and don't want to use  Splenda (not enough known, and bitter aftertaste) or Nutra-Sweet (too much known), and can't tolerate the taste of stevia.  


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Ok, my very first post here.  

Who can tell me how I can find out the +/- aspect of my type (I guess that is Rh factor?) and secretor status.  Is RH factor related to secretor status?  

I have been doing great with the straight type O diet for several months.  I am very excited and happy to be free of depression and fatigue.  

I am curious about the Secretor status - I adhere to the Secretor values for foods since I don't know my secretor status - as I use TypeBase 4 on the website - keep it on my iPhone so it is on-the-go!

Just wondering how much of a difference it would make to know this - I assume Secretor is more common so we guess we are that if we don't know.  Are non-secretor's more sensitive?  What does it actually mean?  I couldn't find a quick easy answer on the site.

Also, genetically, I may know that I am a positive blood type:
1) I vaguely remember this - I am positive, my sister is negative - even though we are both O - it was a joke between us. And we were wondering if we were really sisters - of course, we had to both be O's - but I think one of our parents must be + and the other - right?
2) My daughter is a B+ and I didn't have to take anything for Rh factor during pregnancy - assuming there was no difference between us - isn't that what Rh factor is when contraindicated for pregnancy?  

So I may have answered my own question about the +/- and can someone tell me how that relates to secretor status?  

Lotsa q's - hopefully not too many - pick one - any help appreciated.

Angela
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The Rh+/- is usually tested at the same time as blood type. If you want to verify, you can either donate blood or buy an inexpensive home test.

Rh- is recessive, so both parents may be Rh+. At least one has to be Rh+ or you would both be Rh- !

The first Rh+ child of an Rh- mother is not a problem, it is subsequent children. Your daughter's father is either AB or B. If you are Rh+, he can be either Rh+ or Rh-.

Secretor status is seperate from blood type or Rh factor but is related to another blood type system, Lewis blood type. You will want to do the test at some point (can be ordered from the store here) but you are correct to 'assume' secretor until then.

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enjoy the tutorial for starts
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm


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Thanks for all the information.  So I started to read the link on secretor status googled more information - much online is written by Dr. D. himself - and I find it fascinating.  I was unable to find any genetic information on this quality.  i.e. Does it act like a dominant / recessive trait? Does it switch on or off during gestation?  Or is it inherited from mom or dad?  Or both? Once I know the status of offspring can I ascertain at least probability of parents, etc.

Angela
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The easiest way to find out your secretor status is the saliva test available online.  It would take just as much effort to find out your child's status as yours
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Regarding responsiveness to the Blood Type Diet.  My impression is that most people respond well and some don't because they have irreversible damage, not following it to a T, or maybe they aren't taking into account the Secretor Status.  Is there any data or evidence as to why those who don't respond well don't respond?  

Second question: As far as not following the diet to a T - my sister, a type O doesn't seem to be responding in the same way as me - she cheats on the diet, a lot.  I notice the difference on days I eat wheat, etc.  I feel it in my metabolism. My sister insists on having coffee a few times a week, even though going out of her way to eat quinoa, avoid cow-based dairy, etc. and even has the pocketbook so she can know how to feed her Type O family.  The problem with coffee for O's is that it is knowm to modify disease susceptibility.  So she is always tired.  And she laughably gives up popcorn for these other veggie-based snacks with corn oil, and indulges in sugary things like soy ice cream.  She has had parasites in the past.  I beg her to drink green tea - beneficial to all types.  She seems to be a typical addict whose epigenetics have made her want something that is inherently bad for her.  How strict do we have to be?  I notice that some people here are very strict as I have been to the degree I can - I just have very small amounts of avoid-type foods in social occasions or in a pinch - Can one avoid item taken regularly - such as coffee make your life miserable?  
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Sounds like you are doing great!
I didn't notice great changes at first & suspect I am a non-secretor. When I adopted some 'nonnie' foods, I felt better.

Don't argue with your sister. We all have favorites that we are shocked that we have to give up. It takes time. Coffee is very addicitve. I don't like it, but I see all around me how other love it. I have my own cravings as we all do.
As long as your sis gets off the biggies like wheat & dairy, that is important. The others may follow. It's tough to find the right oils for an O. I like fried fish & was using olive oil which doesn't work as well. Oh yeah, I was using rice flour for breading. It works, but isn't the same as the bad stuff! [Now that I am on the Genotype diet, I've had to give that up. There is no basmati rice flour!!!!]
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you can adapt this system to your specific needs.
we are all individuals and act accordingly.
read my signature....I go by Dr D s quote and if not successful, I simply blame it on myself, not the system.....
compliance works every time, you just have to be convinced it s the way you want to go.

and yes, do get tested...this will help you fine tune your diet choices and know more about your individuality.


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So I started to read the link on secretor status googled more information - much online is written by Dr. D. himself - and I find it fascinating.  I was unable to find any genetic information on this quality.  i.e. Does it act like a dominant / recessive trait? Does it switch on or off during gestation?  Or is it inherited from mom or dad?  Or both? Once I know the status of offspring can I ascertain at least probability of parents



If you want online info on secretor trait: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2137527&blobtype=pdf or http://www.journalarchive.jst......amp;from=jnlabstract or this site: http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Lewis_Blood_Group

Secretor is dominant, nonsecretor is recessive.

Thus if both parents are nonsecretors children will be nonsecretors.


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sivani:

I'm not very compliant at all, much like your sister.

Through trial and error, I discovered that the frozen desserts made from soy / rice are worse for me than plain, good quality ice cream.  And Stonyfield Farm frozen yogurt is pretty innocuous, so long as I say away from varieties that might have wheat, such as cookie dough, cookies and cream, fudge brownie etc.  The non-dairy desserts have lots of thickeners and more sweeteners to make them tolerable.

And coffee isn't too bad, either, IMO.  If she can sip a single cup slowly during the day rather than gulp a cup quickly in the morning and another later in the day, it would be better.  This might prevent the tiredness, since too much coffee can suppress blood sugar.

Dr. D. has written a few times that the BTD offers general recommendations.  A certain amount of experimentation is needed to tailor the diet to your needs.  And don't neglect proper sleep and exercise.  The diet won't help much if your sister has sleep apnea, for example.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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The diet won't help much if your sister has sleep apnea, for example.


This depends on what is causing the sleep apnea...  If the reason your bronchia is being blocked is due to sensitivity to, or excess weight from, avoids, the diet will help immensely!


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Here Sivani, take a look see about what compliance means:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC/m-1142920713

Sivani, hmmm, interesting name . And...welcome aboard!



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Wow, what great responses in this thread!

I just want to say WELCOME to Angela and sivani!



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It is great to see new fresh blood on this board.

Sivani:  Even though you and your sister are both BT O, one may be RH+ and one RH- or one may be secretor and the other nonnie.   There could be recessive genes making the difference.   If you research the GTD diet, you may find yourself in a different group than your sister.

It takes time for your body to adjust to a new diet.


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Hi,

I am still not sure how to read this board - embarrassingly - I am not sure why "Posted by" has one name on top and another on the bottom - so not sure whom to address and never sure if Thread Summary is posted so I paste it in myself, etc.  

In any case thanks for the idea that my sister may be in a different group than me, even if we are both secretor.  I am not sure how RH+ or RH- differences work in this system.  Any links or info for that?  My sister is - while I am + on the RH factor...

thanks to RedLilac or Peppermint Twist and everyone else,
angela
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